from comments section of an article:
Look at Barrick for example. It's gone down 84% in the last 5 years. It has a market cap of $7.8B, and it had over $10B in sales last year. It has a book value of over $11, but is trading under $7. Cash flow last year was $3.69 per share, with an operating margin of 25%.
The co-founder of Franco-Nevada, Seymour Schulich, owns 15 million shares of Barrick, the majority of which he bought in 2004 -and it is the only gold company he owns. Schulich says "As far as gold goes, I believe one needs to consider that the real level of inflation is running more like 9.5% to 10%. I think the number—2%—given by North American governments is absolute nonsense. Some reports suggest that major governments have been printing money at a rate of about 15% per year since the 2008-2009 financial crisis.I think you are going to see gold selling for at least $3,000 an ounce within the next three to five years."
Schulich says "It’s pretty simple. I am about 30% in cash, 30% in gold and 30% in gas. I have five stocks. Birchcliff and San Juan Basin Royalty Trust are my gas plays. I also own shares in Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, the world’s largest generics company. I own physical gold through the Royal Canadian Mint’s bullion exchange-traded receipts. I own one gold stock—Barrick. I think it has the five best gold mines that I know of, and I can see how it can dig out of its current problems. It has to reduce its debt by about $3 billion, and can probably do so by selling a piece of its Pascua-Lama project, so I am not worried."
I was reading Steve Saville this weekend and he put in a really important chart. Steve is the publisher of The Speculative Investor and is brilliant. He is a must read. The chart was an inflation-adjusted graph of the Continuous Commodity Index. It used to be called the CRB. Going back to 1956, on an inflation basis, the CCI is the lowest it has ever been measured.
So we don’t know if commodities in general will go down tomorrow or be lower a week from now, they might. For 100% of the time from 1956 until today, commodities were higher. So they might get cheaper but they are lower than they have been in 60 years.
We are absolutely going to have a tradable low in gold, silver and the vast majority of other commodities. They could go lower but we have everything in place for a tradable low. My opinion and it’s only my opinion is that we are going to have a barnburner of a rally across the commodity spectrum.
from 321 gold website
"Radically-greater upside exists in the beaten-down gold and silver miners! Just this week, their leading index slumped to an astounding 12.1-year low. The last time gold and silver stocks were trading at these dismal price levels, gold and silver were trading near $350 and $5! These miners are truly priced at fundamentally-absurd levels today with gold and silver 3.3x and 3.0x higher. They will greatly leverage the metals' gains."--Hamilton
Gold:XAU 20.89 at 7.17.15
Gold:BGEIX 179.60 at 7.17.15
I suppose we can wipe all the updates clean with new lows for BGEIX since 2008. In 2008 it fell below 6 for one day. Maybe this time more.
In the category of safe havens past and present, take a look at TLT from 2007 into the end of 2008. I foresee the same kind of performance for BGEIX, but a much bigger gain in 18 months than TLT. BGEIX is oversold the most in it's history. Bonds and the US dollar are ponzis that will be seen for what they are over the next 18 mos. This is a historic opportunity to save yourself a lotta pain and heartache.
I'd equate mid year 2007 in TLT to what mid year 2015 is for BGEIX. Good luck.
Jul 08, 2015 12:09 NY Time
Gold/XAU Ratio 19.21
Miners are stocks when stocks are down and gold when gold is down. Ratio is headed to 20 I suppose, although this is the anniversary of the Dow Jones Industrial low-in 1932 during the depression.
Gold haters having their day--I'm still adding here.
For all purposes we have merely been scraping bottom since November 2014. The 7.7.15 6.94 closing is virtually the same as the lows in Dec and Nov 2014 and we could certainly "beat" them.
So 7.7.15 was the highest close (IN HISTOREEEE :) for the ratio at 19.10--last couple of high closes late last year were in the18.90's. Gold:XAU missed the high of December by one tick. I guess there is plenty of time today on the anniversary of the 1932 Depression low for the Dow, to right that.
1995-04-11 7.029366 390
1997-02-18 7.029368 345
1996-12-30 7.029368 368
2015-07-01 7.03 1168
2008-10-29 7.039727 760
2005-04-14 7.040542 424
2004-05-21 7.040542 385
Date BGEIX Gold per oz
This points to the extreme undervaluation of the miners.
Never lower in relation to gold.
Nov 5 2014 6.77
Dec 16 2014 6.85
Dec 23 2014 7.00
Mar 10 2015 7.10
Mar 17 2015 7.22
Mar 31 2015 7.30
Jun 26 2015 7.33
Ratio (gold:xau) looks bleak--those lows in March look in danger--its darkest before the dawn and it is really a darker shade of gray now. From a historical perspective we are probably as close to the most extremely undervalued in gold stocks compared to gold as ever--a trend that started as far back as 1968 in modern history and is comparable to the early 1940s when the price of gold was fixed by our old villain pal FDR. The stock market bottomed in the great depression on July 8 1932--LOL, at least that date is not far off :)
It is common that when the bankstas get in trouble they change the rules--but the important thing will become who makes the rules--not anything else. We are on the cusp of that now--
[China] has accelerated reforms in the bullion market in recent years, granting more import licenses and allowing foreigners to trade bullion in offshore yuan. It announced plans on Thursday to launch a yuan-denominated gold fix to boost its influence over the pricing of the precious metal.--Reuters 6.26.15.
He who possesses the gold and silver will make the rules. So if China manipulates the Yuan down when bidding up all the gold and silver they possess, who cares about grandfathers :). Its the ole FDR trick, but this time they bought it at the manipulated low prices (courtesy of bankstas) instead of stealing it like the low life USA politicians did! (LOL)
I recently observed that JPMorgan and other members of the 4 largest short sellers on the COMEX had never taken a loss on any newly added short position in COMEX silver futures over the past seven years...
The proof of this resides in the data from the CFTC in the concentration section of the COT report. Every time the big 4 have increased their concentrated short position in COMEX silver, which only occurs on rising prices, they have never bought back those short sales on higher prices than originally sold, only at lower prices...
JPMorgan and the big 4 as a whole achieved the statistically impossible; never taking a loss...
The only reason silver has yet to truly explode in price is because JPMorgan never covered short positions to the upside. I confess to being repetitive in declaring nothing matters more to the price of silver than whether JPMorgan adds to its short position on any and every silver price rally...
JPMorgan and the others live to speculate and manipulate. Never taking a loss automatically means a market is manipulated and no legitimate hedging takes place; there are no other possible conclusions...
Jun 16 2015 7.43--latest higher low
Jun 22 2015 7.44
gold:xau hit 18.30 on Jun 22 2015--Mar 10 2015 had a high of 18.34--all time high 19.38 Dec 16. Close Jun 22 at 18.07.
gold:bgeix closed 159.33 on Jun 22, 2015, 174.54 was the all time high Dec 16, 2014.
$200 to BGEIX today--if we take out the latest higher low, I'll increase the daily some. So far silver looks much stronger than gold today. It's early :)