I've enjoyed playing with you trolls today. Have a great weekend.
BBB, you know where the VoIP is primarily? Avaya, Siemens, NEC, Mitel/Aastra. VHC already all of those guys licensed. Dude, what we're talking about is VoLTE/VoIP commercially with mobile devices over mobile networks. We're not talking about WiFi / internet IP...
Get a grip.
Terp, I cannot argue with you that it is time for VHC to sign-up non litigants, but you have to admit that it's a challenge for VHC to defend their royalty scale outside the courtroom until they defend it inside the courtroom. Everybody is going to challenge the rates that VHC says the technology is worth...UNTIL, they have a have won a jury's opinion and have a judgment in hand that legally structures and explains why this is the defendable royalty rate.
You heard Apple. They say the rate is not worth as much as VHC says it is because they have other options. However, VHC is proving that their other options are growing in expense exponentially. Once you add it the iMessage traffic, Apple's expenses will go thru the roof.
It is not an easy or fast process, Terp. Sure Apple will appeal the royalty, too. Judge Davis already knows this. That's why he's taken so long to come to a decision. It's not easy for him either even though he agreed that VHC's experts were more persuasive at trial.
You have a right to your opinion. I don't agree with it most of the time, but I do agree with you that it's time for non-litigant licensing to launch after they have a judgment in hand with a well documented and legally defended rate.
Those other things you're talking about (SDNI) are truly cart before the horse tech. I never anticipated be cautious rollout of more advanced LTE...but it looks like that and VoLTE/VoIP is now coming to market. I think the market is becoming ripe for these technologies and solutions.
Willie, the inside circle rumor is [some] non litigants are also waiting for a judgment on the ongoing royalty. Apple's argument is they can work around easily with relays...but the cost of that are mounting quickly with every iPhone they sell. I think that fact further validates the value of the patents, secure and DIRECT connections with encryption.
I believe once Judge Davis rules, VHC's activity with non-litigants gets interesting.
Geejo, that dude is simply freaking out now. Even lying about the status of pending motions. I suppose if the lawyers are liars (being proven now) what can be expected by the minions here?
Wow...Willie. You have to have some kind of patience to hang around here any longer. These trolls are completely ridiculous. Today, it almost looks like they're in panic mode.
Terp, strictly my opinion, but you surely noticed the pending motion was unopposed. Nearly all unopposed motions are granted, and this particular one is specific to VirnetX's exhibits on Apple's alleged workaround.
It's pure speculation, but during the ongoing royalty hearing VirnetX did provide exhibits (that were Apple documents) on how much it is projected to cost for all FaceTime calls to go over relays. The "projections" suggested that at some point in 2014 Apple's costs could escalate to $20mm per month. This is of course a projection and Apple will obviously continue to negotiate volume discounts with Akamai.
To address your point, I suspect some of these exhibits had to be officially admitted for Judge Davis to reference them in his judgment. IMO, the judgment will arrive soon.
Mr. Ashe: "You look handsome today, Your Honor, and that Livestrong band really compliments your robe. And speaking of Livestrong, you know that initiative was originally founded by Lance Armstrong on the heels of his legacy of winning the Tour de France seven times. I don't mean to get too far into the weeds, Your Honor, because I believe this is relevant and I will get back on point shortly."
"Well just as Mr. Armstrong presented himself as solely a superior athlete, completely clean from performance enhancing drugs, the facts suggest that was not the case. Ultimately, Lance was stripped of his Tour victories and lives in disgrace. Well that's exactly what we're all trying to avoid, Your Honor."
"Although it appears that RPX received assistance from Apple, and that we did not disclose that Sidley Austin was representing RPX until evidence was provided to Your Honor, the fact of the matter is Sidley Austin was in fact RPX's attorney of record at the time we generated those document...and that's all there is to the story."
"What I'm saying, Your Honor, is Sidley Austin was firm representing RPX, not Lance Armstrong. Thank you, Your Honor."
Mr. Rothman: "It's my pleasure to make your acquaintance, Your Honor. I would like to explain that tape recording VirnetX provided as evidence alleging that I tried to extort money and interfere in a judgment from His Honor's bench."
"As you know, I live in South Florida, and not too long ago Justin Bieber came into my office seeking counsel, you know, with some legal issues he's having. It all started innocent and professional, but from what little I recall we got stoned out of my minds. It's a little foggy, but me and kid were having fun punking people. Bieber punked Labron and Yvonna Trump, and I'm told I got Kendall Larsen pretty good."
"And that's the story, Your Honor. It was really nothing serious...just a little fun with some weed and JB."
Well there we have it. Straight from Osprey the Opinionators mouth, "I haven't been paying much attention..." For a guy who does not pay attention, you sure yap on and on like you're informed.
Osprey, what do you think the CAFC thinks about this, which was submitted to them yesterday -
1. Petitioners are Subject to Personal Jurisdiction in the
Eastern District of Texas.
Petitioners contend that they have no other adequate means to relief because the transfer order “forces them to litigate the issue in a distant forum in which they would not be subject to suit.” Petition at 16-17. VirnetX, however, established that Petitioners were subject to personal jurisdiction in the Eastern District of Texas arising from specific contacts with the forum. A170-71. Where the party opposing transfer “purposefully directed his activities at residents of the forum . . .and the litigation results from alleged injuries that ‘arise out of or relate to’ those activities,” there is specific jurisdiction. Bank of Texas v. Computer Statistics, Inc., 60 F.R.D. 43, 45 (S.D. Tex. 1973) (quoting Helicopteros Nacionales de Colombia, S.A. v. Hall, 466 U.S. 408, 414 (1984)). Petitioners filed their IPRs with full knowledge that the purpose of the petitions was to extract money in an attempt to reduce VirnetX’s recovery from the verdict against Apple in the Eastern District of Texas. A171. The petitions for inter partes review were the nexus for VirnetX’s decision to serve subpoenas on Petitioners and the dispute, therefore, flows directly from an attempted interference with a judgment from the Eastern District of Texas. Because this dispute arises out of Petitioners’ contact with the forum, the “relationship among the [Petitioners], the forum, and the litigation is the essential foundation of in personam jurisdiction.” Helicopteros, 466 U.S. at 414. Accordingly, Petitioners objection that they are not subject to personal jurisdiction in the Eastern District of Texas is entirely without merit, and those objections do not warrant the extraordinary remedy of mandamus. See In re Link_A_Media, 662 F.3d at 1223.
How do you think Judge Davis is going to receive the briefing from VHC of Joel Rothman's/New Bay's attempt to interfere with his judgment in the EDTX? You remember, that idiot who called VirnetX trying to extort 10% of the damages award in exchange for terminating their IPR petitions. Just a guess, but I do not think Judge Davis is going to be pleased with Joel Rothman.
Osprey, the royalty is only the beginning. Will Apple appeal? Who gives a sh!dt? The hatchet is buried. New Bay punks will be shredded. RPX is trying to scrape poo from their shoes...too late. Apple is dirty; it will be proven if they want to push it. HJD will not be entertained. The CAFC will not be entertained. The USPTO will not be entertained.
On the other hand, I am entertained.
Keep in mind that .50% (below the jury verdict) is still more than $10/share in revenues to VHC annually. So, with VHC at $18 with $10/shr revs (on Apple alone) coming soon, sounds like string music. Apple will soon to lose a hopeless CAFC appeal, not to mention ties to New Bay and RPX, both have been next to confirmed.
Yeah, Willie. I remember the good ol' days with Johnnystocks1 and chatter about the rocket. We still keep it in McKoolSchmiddy's parking lot with a note on the side that says, "shove this up John Desmarais' assets. The story is still intact and if you talk to any long time long they will tell you it has been quite the battle.
My advice to you and others who continue to hold a few shares is to keep in mind LTE-A was always the cash cow...and that is in the pipeline for 2014.
LOL...TERP!!! My man! Apple is a pause, granted. The rest of the market including licenses with Siemens, Avaya, NEC, Aastra, and Mitel in the VoLTE space are moving full speed ahead. Where the F have you been?
Willie, I was catching up with an old Yahoo friend and stopped by the old stomping grounds of what is now a graveyard of a great forum. The stock bashers here could create more aliases in a single day to blurt a one-line piece of trash that anyone could keep up with. That, on top of Yahoo's fundamental changes to the board worked against maintaining any regular voice of reality.
Good to see you're still around. All the best!