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judge_chip 10 posts  |  Last Activity: May 15, 2014 9:32 AM Member since: Nov 3, 2006
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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 15, 2014 9:32 AM Flag

    Bottle Necking CPU that Strangles Discrete GPUs + Bottom Feeding GPU = AMD APU a Lame Gaming POS!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 8:30 PM Flag

    AMD’s claims of the peak combined performance at 856 gigaflops are NOT TRUE, AMD LIED!

    The CPU section is clocked at 3.0GHz whereas the graphics core frequency is periodically lowered from the default 720 MHz to 650 MHz. That’s why the peak power consumption of the Socket FM2+ platform with A10-7850K is limited to 116 watts in our testing.

    The clock rate reduction helps keep the APU's appetite within specified limits but the peak heterogeneous performance suffers. It looks like because the A10-7850K can’t work with its x86 and graphics cores all working at the default clock rates. The APU’s actual performance is about 760 gigaflops due to the clock rate drop.

    This effect is going to be persistent because heterogeneous computing is about using all of an APU’s resources simultaneously.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 5:59 PM Flag

    AMD's over hyped over priced A10-7850K offers Lower computing performance than the A10-6800K. Although the Richland APU is based on the older Piledriver rather than the new Steamroller microarchitecture, it has a 10% higher clock rate and a more aggressive Turbo Cache setup. This is enough to ensure a higher frame rate with the same discrete graphics card.

    Well, it hardly even matters since none of AMD’s modern APUs is any good for gaming configurations with discrete graphics. Neither the A10-7850K nor the A10-6800K can compete even with the dual-core i3-4340 in gaming performance. And it shouldn’t come as a surprise to you if you’ve read our earlier reviews. AMD processors with Bulldozer and subsequent micro architectures are Far from brilliant when it comes to gaming.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 10:57 AM Flag

    the INFERIOR Kaveri is NOT a better choice than its predecessor. In FACT, even the Core i3-4340, which is Substantially Cheaper than the A10-7850K, can offer higher performance in everyday applications typical of home and office PCs. The Kaveri just does NOT impress us as a desktop PC.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 10:48 AM Flag

    The senior Kaveri-based model is INFERIOR to the Richland at Most types of Loads. The only exception is 3D modelling but the A10-7850K is a mere 3% ahead of the A10-6800K then. So if you don’t care about integrated graphics, the Kaveri is not a better choice than its predecessor. In fact, even the Core i3-4340, which is substantially cheaper than the A10-7850K, can offer higher performance in everyday applications typical of home and office PCs. The Kaveri just does not impress us as a desktop PC.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 10:28 AM Flag

    Who do we trust?

    For sure NOT the paid to post propaganda puppets that AMD hires to plague tech website with and give false glowing reviews on AMD products.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 9:27 AM Flag

    The Facts are trash to you delusional AMD propaganda pumpers who live on fantasy island stroking each other while chanting AMD to the moon.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 14, 2014 9:08 AM Flag

    Opinion no, Fact yes, and its published.

    Over priced Kaveri CPU is no better than over hyped Richland CPU and its thrashed by Core i5 models which are much faster, Kaveri is also a poor overclocker.

    You are much better off with a Intel CPU and a discrete GPU, Kaveri is just another AMD APU BUST!

    The Judge

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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    AMD Kaveri = Over Hyped Over Priced BUST !

    by judge_chip May 13, 2014 9:08 PM
    judge_chip judge_chip May 13, 2014 10:13 PM Flag

    AMD Kaveri ALL Over Hyping Talk and NO Walk is a absolute BUST!

    AMD A10-7850K (Kaveri) Review: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back.

    So, the Kaveri series isn’t good for overclocking. Its frequency potential seems to be smaller even in comparison with the Richland APUs which allowed to overclock their x86 cores to 4.7 or 4.8 GHz and their graphics cores to 1.2 GHz. The Kaveri’s new microarchitecture and 28nm tech process only worsened their overclocking capabilities.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Conclusion

    The Kaveri brings about a few innovations and technologies like hardware HSA support, but most of them offer no real benefits right now.

    Promoting the Kaveri series to the desktop market, AMD puts an emphasis on several things such as the Steamroller microarchitecture with allegedly higher efficiency, the fast graphics core with GCN architecture, HSA support for heterogeneous computing, and affordable pricing.

    However, these advantages are all very questionable. The new Steamroller microarchitecture ensures but a small performance growth which is negated by the reduced clock rates of the new APU models. As a result, senior Richland-based APUs are even faster than the new Kaveri in terms of x86 performance.

    The potentially fast graphics core is limited by the low memory bandwidth. The A10-7850K has a third more shader processors than the A10-6800K but its actual gaming performance is only 10% higher. It goes without saying that the Kaveri’s integrated graphics is superior to any other, yet it still cannot ensure a playable frame rate in any game at the Full-HD resolution even with low visual quality settings. It must be granted, though, that the A10-7850K delivers a high enough frame rate at 1920x1080 in a number of popular games including some online ones.

    As for HSA, the related hUMA and hQ technologies look highly promising but it'll take a lot of time until they become practically applicable. With the current implementation of heterogeneous computing the Kaveri series aren’t any faster than their Intel competitors. The OpenCL support is but rarely implemented in modern applications. Besides, Intel’s APUs benefit from it just like AMD’s, so this doesn’t change the overall picture.

    For all that, AMD prices the A10-7850K very high, pitting it against junior Core i5 models which are actually much faster except when we use the integrated graphics. That’s why the A10-7850K seems only to be interesting for users of compact entry-level gaming.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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