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jumbo53226 26 posts  |  Last Activity: Sep 22, 2014 4:07 PM Member since: Nov 12, 1999
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  • Reply to

    Another interesting question.

    by jonqpublic9999 Sep 18, 2014 4:55 PM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Sep 22, 2014 4:07 PM Flag

    JQP and Cliff, My theory is that those who bash a small emerging tech stock like Bio-Key are primarily those who have bought and sold at a loss. They now become cheerleaders for all things negative. I am separating these BASHERS from the many investors who are a little frustrated, but still hanging in there for the long run. If one owns a stock, it is simply counter-productive to become a hard-core basher. I have many bashers here on "ignore". As an example....there is a poster that called him/herself stargazer who sold Bio-Key at a loss years ago. His/her fragile psyche will not allow him/herself to simply fade away. Instead, this person stalks this message board ready to pounce on anything that is discussed even sllightly negative. This is a sad thing about human nature. When one fails at an endeavor, that same person will loudly celebrate anyone else's failure with the same endeavor. These people are life's true losers.

    If one is invested in a company, and that level of frustration reaches a point where sleep and peace of mind are severely affected, it is time to sell that stock. In the case of Bio-Key, I have the means to continue to add to my position, which I did again today.....and hold comfortably for the long run. I have made millions over my years in the market by buying low, holding, and selling into the strength of high prices. I am optimistic that Bio-Key will be turning the corner soon. Good Luck to you both.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    New Developments at NUS

    by jjsheldon2009 Sep 17, 2014 1:38 PM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Sep 17, 2014 3:14 PM Flag

    " Nu skin products and business scope will be mingle with China once Alibaba comes to the market"

    What are you talking about?? NUS is already doing a tremendous business in China and it will be getting bigger with or without BABA. The NUS sales model is based on personal relationships with distributor and customer. Chinese mentality is to trust the personal relationship more than an impersonal web site like Alibaba. It was just announced a few months ago that NUS received a new license to expand into another new province of China. Investors will be stunned at the turn-around in Chinese business when the next CC and earnings release arrives.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    New Developments at NUS

    by jjsheldon2009 Sep 17, 2014 1:38 PM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Sep 17, 2014 2:35 PM Flag

    Resolving a debt covenant is simply a matter of re-negotiation of terms with the lender. Banks/lenders will do this for their more successful corporate clients. Investors will look at this resolution as a major vote of confidence in Nu-Skin's future. We will see a nice pop of the stock prices if/when this is announced.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    not business as usual

    by cliffdoctrine Sep 8, 2014 8:55 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Sep 9, 2014 3:35 PM Flag

    Jeff, It has been well stated that they are hunting "elephants" (huge $million + accounts), and are in the final testing stages with many of these firms.

    There has been news on foreign bank systems using fingerprint technology to safeguard transactions. Once more financial systems start to utilize this technology to safequard financial transactions (without any violation of individual liberties), we may see a sunami of global adoption.

    Many individuals who post here are becoming restless and probably should exit the stock. In my opinion, no one wants rapid adoption of Bio-Key fingerprint technology more than Mike DePasquale. He owns more shares than do I (he received these options/shares as part of his compensation as does every CEO of every public company in America)

    I have the means to hold my shares and do expect to be ultimately rewarded. I have taken the time to research the pedigrees of the various sales managers working on behalf of Bio-Key. This is a very good group of indiviudals given the size of this company. I trust their efforts willo bear fruti in the near future.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • It is very conservative to expect HSOL to get a minimum of 1 GW of the 35 GW in Chinese projects to be awarded in 2014. This could easily propel the stock into the $5/share range before the end of 2014. Time to jump on board for investors is NOW!

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 28, 2014 12:36 PM Flag

    Investors as well as shorts in the solar marketplace are making their moves based on demand and supply. It was well stated today in the CC that there still is ample global supply which will continue to impact gross margins. Although there was some good buying today, many large short may not be quick to cover until the stock moves 25-30% higher.
    What I liked in the CC today is the two fold emphasis on greater productivity combined with confident increasing sales projections . Even at a slightly lower level of gross margin, the increasing revenues should bring HSOL back to break even profitability by the end of this 3rd quarter. If we get there or are even close to break even, given a favorable 4th quarter outlook, the stock should see $4-5/share by year's end in my humble opinion. I went very long again at the open, and accumulated another 30,000 shares. GL to all!

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 27, 2014 2:42 PM Flag

    Most investors are waiting for the report to buy. There is no need to chase this stock before the report. Although I admittedly sold a chunk of my stock in the low $3/share range this year, I still own more shares than 99% of those who post here , I'm sure.
    I will buy HSOL again after the report....either below $2 or (preferably) as it makes its way higher after a better than expected earnings report. I like their newer CEO and the fact margins are improving. I still say that HSOL is better positioned than most given their strong Japanese and Chinese ties....and given the growing number of relationships with installers in the US and across the globe.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    interesting

    by beantowntransplant Aug 19, 2014 10:58 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 22, 2014 1:55 PM Flag

    Mahatma,

    In my world, common sense tells me at any CEO is only as good as the people who work for him/her.
    Reading the many extremely negative posts, one would assume that DePasquale has no clue how to run a company. Based on the quality staff at Bio-Key (given their size) I would disagree with these posters. If Mike is guilty of anything it is being too optimistic about the timing of full blown adoption of biometrics. As crazy as it sounds, our human nature craves privacy and rebels against having fingerprints in any kind of public data base. In my opinion, this is why adoption of our proven technology as been so slow. Potential Bio-Key customers are worried abut their own customer's perception of such a move. In general. people have shown that they would rather deal with complicated user names and passwords versus the ease of a biometrics. The epidemic of global "hacking", however, is finally starting to open the eyes and minds of (most?). The growing pipeline of opportunity at Bio-Key is evidence of this. In my opinion, a biometric solution is the ultimate answer and ultimate solution to hacking and computer identity theft.

    For some years, no guidance was given by Bio-Key. I'm glad to see this is changing. Mike has stated firmly that next quarters revenues will come in at a minimum of $800K. We can at a minimum take that to the bank. I believe it will be much more. If people simply feel that a change of CEO will produce better results, they are mistaken. Financial institutions and other targeted accounts will only act if they truly feel that incorprating biometrics will facilitate THEIR customer's satisfaction and their own personal company growth. Depasquale is as interested in great quarterly results as is any shareholder in Bio-Key. I think the board of directors would second my opinion.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    interesting

    by beantowntransplant Aug 19, 2014 10:58 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 21, 2014 3:32 PM Flag

    Mahatma.....you and I both know that this is a short term sell off and the stock will recuperate. I have been in this too long to throw in the towel because there has been talk of a reverse split. What about all those new buyers who got the deal of a lifetime buying at $.23-25/share in the recent offering? Do you think they might have some influence on company direction here?? A reverse split only makes sense for these new investors if the stock gets back to the $.25-.30/share. IMHO, there is obviously enough in the pipeline to keep these new investors encouraged. This is why I continue to be optimistic!

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Open letter to BKYI Shareholders

    by j_rick41 Aug 20, 2014 8:58 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 21, 2014 12:36 AM Flag

    To get larger institutions involved, the stock price will have to be north of $5/share. Hopefully we will see increasing global adoption of biometrics. The bank of Muscat just adopted wide spread fingerprint biometrics in Oman. One good announcement about Bio-Key and the stock should will back into the mid-upper 20 cent range quickly.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    interesting

    by beantowntransplant Aug 19, 2014 10:58 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 21, 2014 12:30 AM Flag

    Adoption of Bio-metrics will be soon upon us. Things are starting to happen across the world!
    Paste this in your browser
    http://www.smartoman.com/finance-a-economy/banking/13529-bank-muscat-launches-state-of-the-art-biometric-customer-id-system-

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 8, 2014 3:07 PM Flag

    It was a good read. The more respected analysts from Deutsche Bank have a BUY rating on NUS, with a $70/share price target. They would be even more bullish but still feel there are still some inventory issues to address and then of course there continues to be the whole PR overhang regarding MLM companies. I will reiterate again that if they can show $1 or more per share in earnings for their 2014 4th quarter, this will easily be back in the $75-80 + share range. I was encouraged to hear theat NUS was granted an additional license to sell in a new Province in China. This,as another poster had indicated, shows that NUS is continuing their growth initiatives in China....and with the support of the Chinese government.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 8, 2014 2:46 PM Flag

    Doc, It is amazing how many mindless idiots inhabit this message board. docisafraud is right up there with most mindless. My advice is to not feed the trolls.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 7, 2014 4:33 PM Flag

    Same to you Doc! Sorry about the current price of HSOL stock, but hhunsaker is right in that the company needs to SHOW results now...not just project them. Outlook means very little now to solar investors. I believe, like you that this company will turn the corner very soon however. Once we actually see good results, the stock will move up in price quickly.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Outlook for NUS

    by jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 10:08 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 8:46 PM Flag

    They will not have to write down their excessive inventory or have to adjust for currency fluctuations. If they had done this for 2nd quarter, they would have earned well over $1/share for this last quarter. I personally think their next two quarterly projections were purposely very conservative. They will want to beat both upcoming quarters handily after this Chinese debacle.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 8:39 PM Flag

    Hanwha bought Qcells after it went bankrupt. When it purchased SOLF, that company was in good financial shape. It is SOLF (now HSOL) who has the strongest ties within the Asian-Chinese markets. Qcells may be more respected in Germany and other parts of Europe, but there is not the growth in solar there as there was years ago. Most of the global growth now is going to be primarily in the US and China, SE Asia, and Japan. This is where HSOL is much stronger politically and with stronger ties to installers. It would be ridiculous for Hanwha to sell HSOL....actually merging the two companies or simply selling Qcells by itself makes more sense. I predict neither will happen however.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    If this company is truly bankrupt,

    by energ_one2 Jul 31, 2014 11:34 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 3:07 PM Flag

    The way I read this,you or your brokerage firm must surrender your securities to get the final distribution. I think some feel that they can sell now and still get distribution. Am I reading this right?

  • Reply to

    Outlook for NUS

    by jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 10:08 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 2:43 PM Flag

    $58 seems to be chart resistance on the upside. It will be interesting if big buyers take it back over that level as the stock price finds its way back north again. Longer term , given the outlook of improving China sales and 4th Q estimates of over $1/share earnings, this is $70/+share stock by year's end IMO.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jumbo53226 by jumbo53226 Aug 6, 2014 10:08 AM Flag

    If the company can deliver $1/share in quarterly earnings with improving outlook starting in the 4th Q this year as stated, this stock should trade at least in the $70-80 share range before year's end. Not a bad buy right now.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    If this company is truly bankrupt,

    by energ_one2 Jul 31, 2014 11:34 AM
    jumbo53226 jumbo53226 Aug 5, 2014 3:18 PM Flag

    How can I see this 7/22/14 order? Can it be accessed from the E&Y website?

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