Here we go again with the lowball buyout predictions. Everybody our there hitting the crack pipe today or something?
Last guy said 8 but you had to drop it $3 to 5 of course. 8 was just too high for your liking.
Ok how about 3.75. Do I hear a buyout for 3.75? Let's wrap this baby up and sell it for 3.75 to Soros, so he can turn into into th next Newmont with his mining expertise!
It's the beginning of a nightmare whose full implications you won't realize until you turn on your computer one day to see ANV sitting pretty over 20 and realize you haven't covered yet. Get the morphine ready.
$8 would be a joke.
$48 would be good. Presumably that's what you meant.
Anyway no shareholder in his right mind wants this future cash cow to be sold to a major, so I doubt you're holding a stake.
How many years experience do you have working in the mining industry and what is the highest position you have held ?
I assume you are the retired CEO of a successful mining venture who enjoys using yahoo message boards to share your expertise and advise management teams?
So in other words the only question you need to ask yourself is : can anv survive the down part of the cycle despite its debt? That is the only relevant question here, period. Because if it can survive it is going to explode like a rocket when gold recovers. If you don't believe anv csn survive or you think gold csn be artificially held down forever then join the merry band of shorts in this name.
The risk of shorting this stock at these levels is so high that you would have to be insane to do it. Many gamblers are insane though, they just can't help themselves.
$5 is not acceptable in the least and it would never happen that it would go for such a pittance.
As for debt, it works both ways with commodity stocks. High debt names get crushed during the down part of the cycle. They are actually the ones you want to buy for just that reason. Anv's high debt which is what makes many view it as a risk in gold's down cycle is precisely what will make this stock shoot through the roof once gold recovers and begins to move bullishly.
You buy now and you keep your eye on e $40 dollar mark. Actually you could just close your eyes and set a limit sell for $40. Come back in a few years and it will probably have hit and you won't have to waste anymore time posting on these boards.
Why anyone talks about anv being sold for $5 is beyond me. If you truly believe this and are not a short in disguise then you need to learn more about commodity price cycles and how company debt plays into them.
50% below book is definitely a prime buying opportunity on any security.. Even more so for anv which has done nothing but execute, beat expectations and release good news - all of which has been totally ignored by the market. Why? Because thst is actually the sign of a bear market in a stock: all good news is ignored, and sll bad leads to further selling. We longs can use this to our advantage. All the same I would be careful about going out too much in margin. Nothing is 100% and margin will ruin you if a worst case scenario plays out.
Soros buy is meaningless. A million shares is nothing for him. Zero conviction. Probably just a lottery ticket like his MCP buy awhile back which obviously went against him big time.
I have a feeling us posters on this board have much more conviction than soros and a lot more on the line
Here's how he explains the huge short position in the stock:
"many investors are concerned about the debt levels and the lack of funding for the expansion at Allied Nevada's primary mine, Hycroft."
Not sure thst is an adequate explanation. Who agrees?
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LOL... Wonder what short hedge fund this guy is posting for
Shorts had piled into coh before earnings. A lot of them lost big and southern piled in again when they saw the post-earnings weakness with coh giving up its gains.
These crazy short gamblers have a lot on the line and when they panic you get movement like today. Don't listen to people talking about buyout or saying somebody knows something - those are all just day traders looking to pump the stock and sell as high as they can before trading closes.
Whatever you do don't buy Into the spike. it will most likely deflate after the short panic dies down and could very well return to the mid 34 level. At any rate, there will probably be a better entry for adding shares in the next few days.
FBP beats estimates with a better than usual report and the stock takes a 14% nose-dive.
most firms would take advantage of this situation to issue a downgrade, spur panic selling, and pick up more shares on the cheap.
But Guggenheim steps in and upgrades FBP to buy with a price target of 6. this is the first analyst rec I've seen in a long time that actually *makes sense* and isn't simply a self-serving call or following the herd.
what a breath of fresh air these guys are. makes me think there just may be a hint of integrity left somewhere on Wall Street.
You can see how badly FBP wants to go up by the sudden open over 5 in yesterday's trading. but so long as the market is in corrective mode now every pop will be sold. Every stock I am watching, even the most undervalued companies that had big earnings beats, are being sold hard after every pop and giving back all their gains.
and international tensions are only increasing in the past few days, so this gives me hope that I will indeed be able to add to my position at 4.50 soon, maybe during friday's trading?
good luck to all longs
you sound too impatient to invest. maybe day trading is more your style.
$5, are you kidding? that is under bv. your view of wanting this company sold asap for a huge discount to real value is not representative of the average shareholder and definitely not the more informed shareholder.
maybe you should sell out of ANV and try to trade quick profit momentum plays.
but personally, i think you'd be a lot wiser to keep buying as much ANV as you can afford under $4 and and widen your time horizon to at least two years.
also wouldn't be looking at this stock or any stock as nothing more than a prayer for a buyout. you should try to understand the value of the company itself and extrapolate future value so you have confidence and patience in your investment.
fact is ANV could easily get back to 40 once GLD begins to rise and goes back into a bull market. yet for some reason you'd be happy with 5?? think you've either got the wrong attitude or you've bought the wrong stock.
this stock is already so insanely undervalued even above 5 that I wasn't sure my limit orders in the high 4s would ever get hit, but thankfully they did yesterday, allowing me to more than triple my position and lower my cost basis in the process.
my next order will fill at around 4.50, if we dip that low this time. bargain hunters unite!
Definitely a fantastic buy at these levels. I am very glad I jumped in a couple of weeks ago, whatever happens with earnings. Any set back that lowers price further I would just use as a buying opportunity. Any good news, this will go up so fast that the fearful who want to get in will have to buy at much higher prices.
Also I have noticed that lately the shorts and bears are out in full force on this one. If you look at the recent SA articles, almost every response is by a short or soft basher trying to scare people away and discourage buying.
It is always a very good time buy when you get droves of shorts telling you why you should need to be "cautious" or "wait" to buy. You know they are liars and manipulators making recommendations on a stock that has been hit this hard. They know they will have to cover much higher when/if this explodes and yes, they are going to be piss3d about that! Their mistake though for hanging on too long, and being foolish enough to think they can manipulate the price even lower by posting "short and distort" messages on public forums. karma is a b1tch.
HART has finally fallen to the levels where I had my first buy order placed. I've had to wait a long time for it to come down to these levels - was starting to wonder if it would happen.
I guess we have Yellen's knock on biotechs to thank for this. Every biotech I watch has imploded since her remarks about biotech valuations being "stretched." Guess the Fed has to displace responsibility however they can. Instead of owning up to the inevitable negative consequences of QE (inflation etc) they pick the easy target: the biotech sector. And of course they do it right after biotechs are just beginning to recover after having been pummeled for months!
thought I'd check in on this board to see what kind of discussion was going on but I notice all the old posters are gone. Nothing buy a few paid bashers here clogging up the board with the usual sewage. For me that is the ultimate buy signal, a sure indication that this is a good level to begin adding to my position. would love to be able to double down at around 4 if the opportunity presents itself but I have my doubts it will. Biotechs have been hit hard recently, and many lost more than half their value in a matter of two weeks, but if the market correction everyone has been wrongly predicting for several years now finally happens you never know.
good luck to all the old long holders, if any are still around. Everyone who has a 4 year time horizon who has been building their position since the spin off took place is going to be very rich. We will have to organize a get together on some tropical island on the day when HART hits 100.
I would say Otto is definitely someone's "employee." Can't imagine anyway doing 354 posts in 10 days without some kind of compensation, no matter how mentally ill.
The real question is who's the guy working for? It would be interesting to find out who hires people like this and instructs them to post in this way. Would it turn out to be some hedge fund we have all heard of?
Seems unethical at the least, but really it is more unscrupulous, when you consider the very aggressive approach posters like this use.
Have any of the bigger entities who are paying guys like Otto ever been found out and called out?
It would be great to have the employers of these people dragged out into the light. I think it would really damage some reputations, and quite deservedly too.