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jwtechy 46 posts  |  Last Activity: 12 hours ago Member since: Nov 15, 1998
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  • You are correct on the price $1.75. Great Essentials got a great deal, although at the time the deal was made, the price was $1.75. They still have the right to acquire all those shares even if they don't totally pay by May 31 2014. They will just pay high interest on the unpaid balance. Carlyle could hold these shares they don't effectively own and watch them double and triple or better, and then ultimately transfer ownership to Great Essentials. It's like Carlyle is a broker for Great Essentials and the shares were bought on margin, that needs to be paid in the future to change title. Cool. Thanks. krill66.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jwtechy jwtechy Apr 18, 2014 9:46 PM Flag

    Krill66, what were those provisions? Did they sell at a fixed price prior to the move or some future price? Thanks

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Interesting. So they did not sell the whole stake.
    I'm impressed with the 32% insider ownership and the meager salaries of the executives.
    Shows commitment and shared risk.

    From the filing, who is on board:

    Common Stock
    Beneficially Owned

    Beneficial Owner Number of
    Shares Percent of

    Pucheng Xin Heng Yuan Biomass Power Generation Corporation
    No 505, Block A, Bei Shao Men, Shi Ji Jin Yuan Residential Quarter, No. 14 Wei Yang Road Xi'an City, Shannxi Province, China 71004 8,766,547 (1) 14.39 %
    Carlyle Asia Growth Partners III, L.P.
    c/o The Carlyle Group
    1001 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Suite 220 South
    Washington, DC 20004-2505 8,400,898 (2) 13.79 %
    Great Essential Investment, Ltd.
    12/F, Tower A
    Chang An International Building
    No. 88 Nan Guan Zheng Jie
    Xi An City, Shaan Xi Province
    China 710068 4,065,040 (3) 6.67 %
    Guohua Ku 18,706,943 30.71 %
    Lanwei Li 213,669 *
    Chungui Shi 40,000 (4) *
    Xiaogang Zhu 120,000 (5) *
    Zhigang Wu 170,000 (6) *
    David Chong 100,000 *
    Timothy Driscoll 35,261 (7) *
    Julian Ha 40,000 (8) *
    Geyun Wang 142,446 *
    Yilin Ma — *
    Yulong Ding — *
    Albert McLelland — *
    All executive officers and directors as a group (12 persons) 19,568,319 (9) 32.13 %

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Well done.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jwtechy jwtechy Apr 14, 2014 7:54 PM Flag

    When it takes out its previous high of $6.05 and holds for three consecutive days...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    With a p/e of 10, it is strange that a company

    by digitcipher Apr 14, 2014 3:20 PM
    jwtechy jwtechy Apr 14, 2014 3:41 PM Flag

    I wouldn't be surprised if it were big money preparing to take large positions and needing it as low as possible. Either that or boiler room types throwing good money after bad.

    Volume is key. And its no where to be found...

    China is now positioned to be the next global power. They are buying up commodities, they are buying up US real estate no less. They will own this country one day, as they negotiate to trade hard assets for all the debt they hold. There is a changing of the guard occurring. This kind of stock gives us poor Bstard Americans, an opportunity to re-invest at the core of their worst enemy: pollution, and their most critical resource, energy.

    I will continue to dollar cost average into this one, and vault it.

    Or you can sell and hold those

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to


    by jwtechy Apr 6, 2014 8:50 AM
    jwtechy jwtechy Apr 14, 2014 3:09 PM Flag

    Additional comment to management: News flow is good, however, the other two points are part of a healthy development of the company: analyst coverage, and actually supporting you stock when you perceive opportunities. A drop of 50% from a high set just a couple weeks ago with no new information is one such case.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Die loser, back to .90c. Coming soon!!!

    by tv3rg Apr 10, 2014 12:36 PM
    jwtechy jwtechy Apr 10, 2014 1:58 PM Flag

    It should be a great place to add, I wish you hit your target..

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Die loser, back to .90c. Coming soon!!!

    by tv3rg Apr 10, 2014 12:36 PM
    jwtechy jwtechy Apr 10, 2014 1:24 PM Flag

    pigs get slaughtered you know...
    .p.s. you should be covering here.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • News out this morning. In a sense, some forward guidance....

    " XI'AN, China, April 9, 2014 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- China Recycling Energy Corp. (NASDAQ: CREG; "CREG" or "the Company"), a leading industrial waste-to-energy solution provider in China, today announced that it expects to benefit from recent policy announcements made by the Chinese government. Mr. Li Keqiang, China's Premier and Party Secretary of the State Council, chaired an executive meeting of the State Council in February to discuss environmental protection, and in particular air pollution. Environmental protection and energy conservation have become the focus of regional and local governments as they begin to make large investments in environmental protection infrastructure."
    My favorite:
    "Mr. Ku Guohua, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of CREG, commented, "the energy saving and environment protection industry has now officially been designated a leading strategic industry. This is a major development that will greatly increase business opportunities for us. We will spare no effort in the development of new technologies to meet the increased demand for cost effective industrial energy recycling solutions. We will improve our service quality and increase the number of customers as we work to grow shareholder value and contribute to China's drive for a cleaner environment." "

    These prices will not last long...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Dude, I'm not sure if you are just a retail short gone astray, or a paid basher, or believe you just want to protect us from CREG. Fact is you cite a "made up" article with company names never associated with CREG. I'm not going to bother to rebut you point for felonious point, but let me make 3: what I consider proof points of your obfuscation for gain on this message board:

    1. You reference a company called "Goodrich Technology" as the predecessor name of a company that changed its name to China Recycling Energy. Well the company on their website and in their SEC filings lays out their complete history and never mentions a Goodrich Technology. And by the way Chinese is too easily translated with today's technology.

    2. You imply that this company duped one of the most prestigious firms, connected and powerful(government connect by the way), in the world, the Carlyle Group since or in, 2007. Just not possible. And if they were fake why would CG hold share through Dec 31, 2013? And for that matter how did they dupe these other institutions:
    "Owner Name Date Shared Held Change (Shares) Change (%) Value (in 1,000s)
    CARLYLE GROUP L.P. 12/31/2013 12,465,938 0 0.00 45,251
    INVESCO LTD. 12/31/2013 287,951 287,951 New 1,045
    RENAISSANCE TECHNOLOGIES LLC 12/31/2013 154,300 24,900 19.24 560
    BANK OF AMERICA CORP /DE/ 12/31/2013 16,776 16,776 New 61
    MORGAN STANLEY 12/31/2013 1,076 1,076 New 4
    CITIGROUP INC 12/31/2013 1,046 1,026 5,130 4"

    3. Last point, you mentioned they went from 30M shares to 60M shares in 3 years. Well the facts are in 3 years they went from 56M in 2011, to 60M today. 2012 51M after a 5M buyback. And why only 1+M revenue in 2012? Surely a scammer would fake more, no?

    As "a scam", they are a stock $3 in 2010,at $1+ for years, with a recent run back over $3 2013, spike to $6 in 2014, pathetic slow moving incompetent scammer! Check PLUG for how it's done.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    sorry about your nativity

    by stockgangster Apr 6, 2014 9:25 AM
    jwtechy jwtechy Apr 6, 2014 11:06 AM Flag

    So stock gangster you are Chinese and have some self-perceived advantage. Since you are in the business of educating, perhaps you can address some basics:

    1. Does the company have a basic business in your opinion?
    2. What do you think about their business model if you believe they have a business?
    3. Since insiders own a good chunk of the shares do you suppose they would want to dilute themselves?
    4. Now the point of a public company is to gain funding from the public, in return for ownership of the business. You reward the owners either through stock appreciation over time or by paying dividends. The business they are in suggest they will pay dividends in time. At some point they are a utility business. Now they may have growth plans or may adopt a licensing model as the industry matures, Do you have insight with your language advantage, on what the growth plans are?
    5. In a company free context (so focus on business not organization) do you believe in the double action of "pollution controls" meets "energy cost savings"?
    6.What can you tell us about their claim of support from the sovereign entity that is the Peoples Republic of China?
    7.What can you tell us about the growth story of China, corruption, and the US media's attempt to thwart investment in any thing Chinese?
    8.What is the Chinese debt situation, strength of their currency versus the USD?
    9.Do you see investment in Chinese companies as potentially a hedge against the onset of a new world currency regime?
    10. Can you provide us with the pointers to documents that contain the "language specific" advantage materials by which you base your "it's probably a fraud" rhetoric on?

    Thanks in advance.
    And oh by the way, if you are a real short on fundamentals type and have a case, I'm all ears.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • And I generally like shorts with a clue helping to trim the fat.

    Problem is, we are already past the "is it a real company" thing.

    Your rhetoric should have been, hey that parabolic spike to $6 bucks, won't last so far above the Bollingerband...then you would have had a short case.

    Problem is, it's a limited case, because once corrected for excess, its heading there and beyond on fundamentals.

    But alas, you sound kind of retail short like, which is nothing but bullish at current levels.


    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • I wish it had margin, but I can wait for Monday...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • jwtechy jwtechy Mar 28, 2014 3:34 PM Flag

    Actually CREG trades like it knows if you are an investor or a swing trader. It does not like fast money. It will smoke out the weak and the stop loss setters and the day traders. When there is nothing left to shake, and volumes slows to a trickle and you can safely estimate the total cleansing, is when it becomes accumulated by investment seeking value folks. So as long as their is fast money still in it, it will flush them out...


  • It's like going to the dentist for a cleaning...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Always good when the company opts for more inclusion and dissemination of knowledge. News out today.


    ""We are very glad to be awarded with another prize from the government, which indicates the government's acknowledgement of our energy saving and environmental protection technology, and their attention and great support to the development of energy saving technology," said Mr. Ku, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of China Recycling Energy. "While developing new projects, we will focus on the renovation and improvement of energy saving technology, and apply the technology to ongoing projects with the purpose of developing more projects, which in turn becomes a beneficial cycle for us and customers. We intend to lead the development of energy saving technology, bring more social and economic benefits to our customers, provide better results to stockholders, and make greater contributions to the environmental protection of the country.""

    Keep up the good work.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • I love to see stepped up FUD.

    Time is not the friend of the MMs who float phantoms in the millions.

    At some point, they need to find those shares. They are hoping the recent volume was mostly weak hands. They further hope that this has not gained increased visibility by institutions, like Calpers that made an astute investment in this investment grade emerging gorilla in the Clean Energy Space.

    This company has the backing of a sovereign nation, a nation that is not a net debtor nation like one we know. ;-)

    Pro shorts spend money to find money, but ultimately have to cover those phantoms.

    This is why I like to dollar cost average, to buy along side those desperate MMs looking for volume that doesn't exist during consolidation periods.

    Today's lower volume is Bullish for CREG.

    tic toc tic toc...
    Place your bets...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Why such a huge sell off?

    by tha_1_n_only Mar 26, 2014 6:25 PM
    jwtechy jwtechy Mar 27, 2014 12:49 AM Flag

    No pump and dump, just a good story caught up in a super squeeze, 3 to 12 in nothing flat, with the fundamentals lagging the move. This will likely revert back to something in the 5's level. Tiny floats cut both ways. Time is on MOBI's side, but the rocket launch did not help things. It will need to get back to a more normal volume before stabilization takes hold.

  • China Recycling Energy's CEO Discusses Q4 2014 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
    Mar. 26, 2014 1:21 PM ET | About: CREG

    Excerpt from news..
    As the first mover in waste energy market in China, CREG has always been committed to providing energy recovery solution package to those heavy industrial companies providing for the full financing leasing arrangements, construction, integration, and in some cases operation of this energy saving systems for the largest of industrial times.

    The strong support by the government allows us to move further and faster in the new energy market. In 2013, besides operating our existing projects, we’re focusing on developing new Coke Dry Quenching of CDQ project incorporated with several large enterprises.

    With higher requirements of energy saving and large scale application of coke carbons, CDQ is the trend in the future for the industry. CREG will seize this opportunity and expand our market share in this new area."

    They need to do better about letting us US investors in on their conference calls. I think the media has a bit of a black out on Chinese news. First I saw of this call this morning was the transcript. Better late than never I guess.

    Take away is clear. They dominate the space, the government backs them. Win Win Win. The government, CREG, and the people.

    With increased coverage by the US, the sky is the limit for this security.


    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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