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keefwotgetsaround 2251 posts  |  Last Activity: 5 hours ago Member since: Mar 21, 2014
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  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 5 hours ago Flag

    I can smell BULL-PLOP!

    (just saying)

  • keefwotgetsaround by keefwotgetsaround 5 hours ago Flag

    Jan 10, 2014 13 people found this helpful

    “ABSOLUTE THE WORST JOB I'VE EVER HAD: "Very Disappointing!”; “Completely Corrupt” ”

    Former Employee - SERVICE ADVISOR
    I worked at Tesla Motors full-time

    Sexy fast cars, allot of incredibly talented people, excellent benefits, cutting edge opportunity and free food.
    TERRIBLE TERRIBLE QUALITY CONTROL, vehicles shipped to customer locations incomplete yes MISSING PARTS that should have been installed at the factory from doors, frunks to the screws that hold the vehicle to solid (CraZy...), salaries WAY below market, RIDICULOUS cut throat management politics, VERY disorganized throughout the company, ZERO work life balance (forget having a day off), I've seen them FIRE employees in an instant and HIDE behind the "CA. AT WILL ACT" so they don't have to deal with management or their quality issues, HR. claims to have an open door policy but what they really mean is open your mouth about anything and your FIRED (I've seen it), allot of haste with company money on travel between cities and countries rather than QC at factory level and quality staffing, "NO RECOGNITION OF TALENT & HARD WORK.”, review system is a joke this is a very frustrating environment.

  • “They think they're god, no respect for experienced auto engineers. awful quality control! ”

    Former Employee - Powertrain Engineer in Palo Alto, CA
    I worked at Tesla Motors full-time for less than a year

    1). 11 months job after I was layoff at GM.
    2). Enjoy the beautiful silicon valley
    1). Due to trouble at Detroit, they treat everyone from big three as muppet, they don't respect your experience, knowledge, especially these critical expertise to ensure product reliability.
    2). They truely think they can start a new auto company out of silicon valley, yet they are now running out of money and way behind schedule
    3). They have no idea what is necessary to ensure the car can last 8-10 years, several incidents where the car failed miserably!
    Advice to Management
    1). Listen to the engineers, not the PR people, respect auto engineers and their expertise,
    2). Focus on on quality, quality, and not on hype, ballyhoo and other non-sense!
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 8 hours ago Flag

    Just a slight twist on the GREEN WIDGET SCAM.
    Ewon has even gone so far as to actually put a widget into production (just for show).

    "There's a type of scam out there that's being going on for at least 100 years. A company claims to have invented or discovered something that will make a lot of money. Quite often this will be in the field of energy, although we see them more and more in the field of weather control and information technology. The company can demonstrate research, they will often hold one or more patents on the technology, and they will have some kind of prototype that does not actually fully work, but they claim is a demonstration of the proof of concept. They won't reveal all the details, despite having filed patents, because they either don't want people to steal their ideas, or they claim it's too early, and more research needs to be done.
    What they are looking for though, is investors. They will talk about the huge potential market, and hence the huge amount of money to be made. They will get people to invest in their company. The technology will go nowhere slowly, and eventually the principals will withdraw, and the investors will end up with nothing.
    The scam works because it's not illegal to be wrong, unless you actually know you are wrong. So if you think you've discovered a form of free energy, it's perfectly legal to set up a company to research and develop the technology. It's quite legal to solicit investment based on what you think is correct science - even if it does turn out to be wrong, and the investors lose all their money. They took a risk, they lost. It's quite legal to pay yourself and the other principals a large salary.
    So all you have to do to run such a scam is to never admit you knew it was a scam. You have to pretend you believe in the technology. Then when it fails you simply keep insisting that you thought it worked, and you were sorry you didn't get enough time to work out the kinks.

    Naturally you get to keep the loot

  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 9 hours ago Flag

    Go on....GIMMEE THE won't regret it :)

  • Reply to


    by flashrob Jul 2, 2014 11:49 AM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 9 hours ago Flag

    Use more LECTRIC at night so we can keep those COAL FIRED POWER STATIONS RUNNING FLAT OUT!

  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 9 hours ago Flag

    Me too :)

  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 13 hours ago Flag

    Cat ate the Terdslas?

  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround 19 hours ago Flag

    If Elon was speaking the truth (oink oink...flap flap etc.) then self driving cars would become COMPULSORY in no time at all.
    If you Seppos get all upset when someone tries to take away your GUNS... imagine how annoyed you are going to be when they take away your right to DRIVE!!!

  • keefwotgetsaround by keefwotgetsaround 19 hours ago Flag

    Why NASA is turning to Elon Musk
    By Rachel Crane @CNNTech September 19, 2014: 3:01 PM ET

    Additional commentary by special correspondent Keef Wivaneff • 13 hours ago

    Just CGI special effects.
    NOBODY witnessed the webounding wocket flights except for the SpaceX video team.
    Not one of the fanatical rocket enthusiasts encamped around McGregor nor any of the neighbors saw the flights.
    When a real flight took place and EXPLODED plenty of witnesses took videos.
    The SpaceX video defies the laws of physics and rocket science.\
    it's a FAKE.
    Just like Elon.
    (do I make myself clear?)

  • Reply to

    My 30 March 275 calls will

    by prc_1983 Sep 19, 2014 2:14 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 2:56 PM Flag


  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 2:55 PM Flag

    Tesla need can say that again!!

  • keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 7:50 AM Flag

    " Two, electric cars mostly charge at night, when there is often excess electricity generation occurring anyway, so they may be charging from the grid while not actually contributing any extra emissions"

    Increased electricity use at night ensures that filthy coal-powered power stations can continue to operate 24/7/365.
    Thank you Elon....... you are SOUL!!!

  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 7:38 AM Flag

    Install a hyper expensive liquid cooled Lithium battery complete with complex battery management system and monitoring to control temperature plus high power charger and inverter.
    (if you try to save money by forgoing the liquid cooling then get ready for FIREWORKS as the aging batteries overheat and set off an explosive chain reaction)

    Oh, BTW, when batteries have lost 20-30% of capacity they are on THE EDGE OF A CLIFF!
    Despite its overall advantages, lithium-ion has its drawbacks. It is fragile and requires a protection circuit to maintain safe operation. Built into each pack, the protection circuit limits the peak voltage of each cell during charge and prevents the cell voltage from dropping too low on discharge. In addition, the cell temperature is monitored to prevent temperature extremes. The maximum charge and discharge current on most packs are is limited to between 1C and 2C. With these precautions in place, the possibility of metallic lithium plating occurring due to overcharge is virtually eliminated.

    Aging is a concern with most lithium-ion batteries and many manufacturers remain silent about this issue. Some capacity deterioration is noticeable after one year, whether the battery is in use or not. The battery frequently fails after two or three years. It should be noted that other chemistries also have age-related degenerative effects. This is especially true for nickel-metal-hydride if exposed to high ambient temperatures. At the same time, lithium-ion packs are known to have served for five years in some applications

    Lithium Ion Battery Aging Experiments and
    Algorithm Development for Life Estimation

    Presented in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree Master of Science in
    the Graduate School of The Ohio State University
    Alexander K Suttman
    Graduate Program in Mechanical Engineering
    The Ohio State University

    What part of FALLS OFF A CLIFF don't you understand?

  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 7:22 AM Flag

    Shagged out batteries?

  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 3:59 AM Flag

    Green BOONDOGGLING for fun and profit.

  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 3:56 AM Flag

    Renault only started production of Electric cars in 2011.

    The Renault Z.E. (Z.E. stands for Zero Emission) is a program of all-electric cars from Renault and it began with a series of Z.E. concept cars. The first production car is the Renault Fluence Z.E. that is scheduled for sales to the public in Israel and Denmark by late 2011 as part of the Better Place network. (WENT BROKE!!) In 2011 Renault was awarded a contract to supply 15,600 electric vehicles to the French Government and the state-owned postal service, La Poste. The vehicles are to contribute to a planned 25,000 electric vehicle fleet owned by the French Government.

    They already have a shirtload of degraded batteries? What the fudge?

  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 3:43 AM Flag

    French group develops mass electric car charging stations
    September 19, 2014, 1:17 am
    By Geert De Clercq

    PARIS (Reuters) - A consortium of French companies led by construction firm Bouygues has developed an electric car charging system based on old batteries that helps smooth out power demand when dozens of cars simultaneously recharge.

    A typical charging station of the popular Paris Autolib self-service rental cars has four to five charging plugs, which each make no more demand on the power grid than an average home.

    And guess what....they are getting a FORKING HUGE GRANT to try out this half-baked idea.
    Sounds like another GREEN WIDGET SCAM :)

    The project, which has a 13 million euro (10.26 million pound) budget, has been trialled in two Bouygues and Renault pilot sites and the group aims to sell it to office buildings, parking lots, campuses and other sites where fleets of electric cars can park.
    "In about a year we will have a commercial offer," Bouygues Energy and Services director Servan Lacire said, adding that it was to soon to say how much the system would cost.


  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 3:39 AM Flag

    Really? Renault is going to use knackered batteries?

    Now back to the Terdsla crapolata.
    When the truck driver arrives at your place with a half ton battery where do you plan to put it?
    In the lounge room next to the TV?

  • Reply to

    Tesla will sell all the batteries it produces

    by spre1975 Sep 18, 2014 5:04 PM
    keefwotgetsaround keefwotgetsaround Sep 19, 2014 2:50 AM Flag

    Bull-plop!...... knackered batteries are not worth the bother.
    Try putting your knackered laptop battery on Ebay and see what offers you get.

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