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keembodakine 172 posts  |  Last Activity: 7 hours ago Member since: Mar 2, 2012
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  • keembodakine keembodakine 7 hours ago Flag

    Mr. Shores,
    I have to agree with Rogere on this one, as you clearly insinuated that it really doesn't matter what man does at this point, as the CO2 levels are rising too fast for man to do really anything about it. I think Rogere was trying to argue long past that you were pretty much taking the attitude that like someone who smoked for 20 years, already would have done to much damage to themselves to matter much if they quit. Trying to go back and look at every one of your posts is a waste of Rogere's time. Just be aware that what Rogere said you inferred was certainly what I remember, but I am not going back and wasting time looking over the voluminous amounts of BS OT posts that you have put up.

  • keembodakine keembodakine Nov 23, 2014 1:50 AM Flag

    Actually, I think republicans will be forced to address immigration reform soon after the new congress convenes, as that is their only method of countering Obama's executive order. If they just go the route of not funding Obama's executive order, they will be tossed just as quickly as they got in. People held their noses when they voted last election, and their votes for change was for that...change from gridlock.

  • keembodakine keembodakine Nov 21, 2014 2:24 PM Flag

    Mr. nikk,

    You are confusing them with facts. If only the American Indian had the same immigration policy that the republican right wing today wants, we wouldn't be discussing immigration in this country.

  • Reply to


    by heysutty Nov 20, 2014 6:32 AM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 21, 2014 12:05 PM Flag

    and now it is worth about 1/25th of that price, and guess who was running the company the whole time??

  • Reply to

    Solar City {SCTY} Walmart

    by lakeed98 Nov 20, 2014 5:38 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 21, 2014 11:55 AM Flag

    Mr. Semper,
    This shouldn't be Walmart's "dirty secret." Walmart locates stores where they believe sales demand for their products will be most profitable. Walmart doesn't own electric utilities in the areas Walmart builds stores, so the way electricity is generated in that area is beyond Walmart's control. I laud them for going green at their store, as they now generate some electricity they use at the point they use it.
    Every business located near Walmart stores can be given the same "dirty secret" argument you posted including the govt. installations within the same utility range. That article is rather silly. There is nothing dirtier about Walmart at their store than Sears, Target, etc if they consume the same electricity in an area where juice is made from coal. Pathetic attempt to label Walmart. Kudos to Walmart for putting panels on their store roofs.

  • Reply to

    Warren Buffet has invested 15 billion in Solar

    by lakeed98 Nov 20, 2014 12:14 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 2:10 PM Flag

    Actually, it does replace the grid daily. How many crops are raised due to the grid. Take away the sun, and you wouldn't exist nikky. Take away the grid, and you might suffer a bit, but human life went for centuries without the grid, and never went anywhere without the sun.

  • Reply to

    ALJ, ALDW nix Krotz sale

    by runnerln Nov 20, 2014 12:19 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 2:04 PM Flag

    This should be immaterial at this point anyway. Personally, today's fall looks like a bit of an over reaction, as some folks thought the move wasn't that smart anyway. I doubt this will effect next dividend at all.

  • You can use the above title to check and see what is going on in Canada regarding pipeline building if you type in the title on you tooooob and watch the video. Very interesting. Dedicated people. He who has the money makes the rules.

  • keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 1:44 PM Flag


    I agree. It makes both economic and physical sense and works to the advantage of both countries and excluding the US, but that is just free market and capitalism. Embrace it.

  • Reply to

    OT BS Is the problem Canada or Hawaii

    by barbershores Nov 19, 2014 8:43 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 1:42 PM Flag

    Mr. Shores,

    "Barbarians would say: "No, since you can't pay for the surgery, we won't treat you. In fact, go back out on the sidewalk"

    Perhaps your definition of barbarian and mine might be a bit different.
    Below is definition.

    bar·bar·i·an (bär-bâr-n)
    1. A member of a people considered by those of another nation or group to have a primitive civilization.
    2. A fierce, brutal, or cruel person.
    3. An insensitive, uncultured person; a boor. See Synonyms at boor.

    Now...would you consider it cruel or insensitive if only because you are forced by authorities to treat somebody, knowing they are in pain, not knowing if you will be reimbursed financially, you do so regardless of what you charge them, and knowing it may well force them into living on the streets due to bankruptcy is cruel or insensitive. If so, you fit the definition. I will agree that not treating them also is barbaric. Not treating them in fact would be the norm if it was not illegal and could lead to jail and imprisonment. If your motivation is to remain out of jail, you can certainly still be considered barbarian, as you are still a cruel and brutal person but restricted by an outside force. Don't you think it fits the definition "insensitive?"

    Now, back to whether it is Hawaii's fault is kind of narrow, as this would have been the case in most any American hospital. Hawaii just happened to be the location where the incident occurred, but results would have been the same in your local hospital more than likely.

  • Reply to

    Death panels

    by lakeed98 Nov 18, 2014 7:58 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 1:05 PM Flag

    Mr. semper

    "Arguably the "stubborn attitude" is just as much on the part of those who insist that government needs to be the PROVIDER of healthcare."

    Perhaps the reason that the stubborn attitude exists is because govt. provided healthcare is working in the countries I named and for far less money than the mess we have here. Offered my suggestions, so perhaps what you should do is list HOW the free market system would work here with healthcare so that ALL people will have access without going bankrupt. Go for it!!! Your turn on the soap box?

  • Reply to

    OT BS Is the problem Canada or Hawaii

    by barbershores Nov 19, 2014 8:43 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 12:59 PM Flag

    Mr. Shores

    "1. Was the cost for such an operation low in NZ compared to the US?"
    Unknown, but common sense would dictate lower, since doctors in NZ are govt. employees and there aren't insurance companies that siphon off billions out of medical costs.
    "2. Whom actually ended up paying for it? Some insurance company? The citizens of NZ?"
    Citizens of NZ. Just as our visit into England was paid for by UK citizens. Their rationale is that you didn't come to their country to have emergency gall bladder surgery and so compassion is the rule.
    "If a New Zealander had an emergency gall bladder event in the US. They would have been treated same as the American in NZ. So, I think your claim of barbarianism is misplaced."
    You are only partially correct. Yes, the emergency surgery would be done here, but the hospital would put a lien on any holdings the NZ person had in NZ and there would be a bill due.. Liens are put on their home there. That is why our friends will not visit from Australia anymore, The trip insurance is too expensive, and they don't want to owe money to a US hospital. You should have seen that clearly in the Canadian example you posted, although in that case, it looks like the people did buy insurance, but the insurance company is denying payment. You are correct in that it would cost 2-5 times more, but the unique thing is that the NZ people do just as well with operations as Americans do, but they do it with much less money, because they manage a health care system instead of turn it over to free market pharmaceutical companies, doctors, hospitals and insurance companies whose sole purpose is to take your money.

  • Reply to


    by heysutty Nov 20, 2014 6:32 AM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 12:45 PM Flag

    BB toasted this stock with poor management IMO. No info regarding sales figures on continuous basis, and no real management skills has taken this company way down. He may have had good intentions, but coupled with lack of business sense with a company that really is in a market where timing is everything, has pretty much run this one into the ground at this point from outside appearances. That is what investors look at, and with little info, it is hard to attract real business people and investors.

  • Reply to

    Death panels

    by lakeed98 Nov 18, 2014 7:58 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 2:54 AM Flag

    "Who said it's "good"? We all (mostly) agree that our system is a mess. But ACA did not, does not, FIX the delivery system. "

    It is a simple fix Semper. Nationalize the system, open up govt. universities for doctors with free eduction for doctors and nurses and pay them a good wage. The universities can be just like Annapolis, and even you probably won't say that govt. university can't produce capable pilots Don't make healthcare jobs something to make people rich. Cater to people whose goal is to help people, not milk them for all their money. Nationalize the hospitals like in Australia. Build plenty of them and close a few Marine bases, Pay your doctors bonuses when the patient gets better, and don't make the system one where doctors make more the more often they see you. Pay for it with national sales tax and close the doors on insurance companies and let them work for a living. You must have never gone anywhere. I have used medical systems in Japan, Korea, UK, Turkey, France, NZ, Australia, Canada and only Turkey was slightly worse than the US. Otherwise, service was excellent and people well trained. No waiting lines. People weren't dying in the streets and nobody went bankrupt due to illness. In other words, get your arrogant head out your bum and learn from others. The US' stubborn attitude that it is smarter and better than the rest of the world is nothing but hogwash.

  • Reply to

    OT BS Is the problem Canada or Hawaii

    by barbershores Nov 19, 2014 8:43 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 20, 2014 2:39 AM Flag

    Welcome to America healthcare costs. When my friend had emergency gall bladder surgery in NZ, he stayed in the hospital a few days and left and never got a bill from NZ. Their rationale was that he didn't come to NZ planning on an emergency with his gall bladder. In other words...NZ is civilized, and America is barbarian when it comes to care for others.

  • Reply to

    Which will happen first ?

    by omarhatesyou Nov 18, 2014 2:40 AM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 19, 2014 4:17 PM Flag

    Trading for a penny. No partner will ever happen unless it is a complete buyout with guarantee that BB is gone with no influence.

  • Reply to

    Death panels

    by lakeed98 Nov 18, 2014 7:58 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 19, 2014 1:07 PM Flag

    "No. Coverages are essentially fixed. The only "choice" is in the amount of the co-pay or coinsurance."

    Yes...they are fixed in favor of the insurance company. Again, you can only choose what you can afford, which may be next to nothing.

    "And you're arguing that investors would benefit from such an arrangement... how?"

    Easy...most executives are shareholders and executives. They get stock options, dividends, etc. By doing so, the company can look poor on paper which is the sole purpose of their tax lawyers.

    "Human health is a PERSONAL issue, not a social issue."

    Really? It certainly becomes personal when you get infected from flu virus or other communicable disease, but those are now social issues as they can involve others....,just like the ebola virus. Accidents can become social issues, as breadwinner is now disabled due to accident until treated. You must be one of those libertarian freaks that thinks everything is about individual liberty.

    I again stand by my statement that an insurance company never diagnosed anything and as such are just added cost to healthcare that should be avoided. They are just like the sponges who are outlawing Tesla to sell their own cars.

    "Please. You can't blame the healthcare system for the fact that Americans **live** unhealthy lifestyles."

    Where did I say that. I can blame the healthcare system for being so unaffordable to many that they don't have regular checkups and thus wind up with first diagnosis being in an emergency room taken there by an ambulance with a thousand dollar transport bill, where in other civilized countries, people are seen regularly, diagnosed early, given advice, don't see a dentist for the first time at 17, and live longer because of it and do all of it at about half the cost of this bureaucratic nightmare called American healthcare system. If ours is so good, why haven't all those other countries adopted it, as they all started out with private for profit healthcare.

  • Are they going to stay in business?

  • keembodakine by keembodakine Nov 19, 2014 2:44 AM Flag

    Isn't the pipeline now solely owned by Trans Canada? Something tells me that Conoco had an interest in it awhile back but they sold that interest to Trans Canada who now owns it all? I think the engineering is an Australian firm, but I am not sure. I do think the northern gateway pipeline is something planned in Canada anyway, but there will be more protesting to that in Canada than Keystone in the US. Either way, I expect that northern gateway will eventually be built between Alberta and BC for sales to Asia. It looks like a win for Canada either way. I think the US will just not get to buy discounted Canadian crude as they do now. Other than much of the pipeline is built already and will be used, I do think a lot of this is overblown. I believe Enbridge said they would rail Canadian crude down to US border and then put it in pipeline going wherever it needs to go. I do think that American jobs will be minimal no matter what. Railroad jobs will be eliminated if it is built and a handful of operators will hired, but I doubt more than a couple of hundred employees for the whole pipeline...but more like fifty. What would they do when it is built. Much of the pipeline is built already so those jobs are already done. Americans won't be working on the Canadian side. Much ado about nothing. Of course, if there is a mistake one day and big pollution occurs, then they should clean it all up, put it in rail cars and perhaps dump it in Ted Cruz' front yard. Ya think?

  • Reply to

    Death panels

    by lakeed98 Nov 18, 2014 7:58 PM
    keembodakine keembodakine Nov 19, 2014 2:07 AM Flag

    " But insureds can choose the level of coverage they want"
    Wrong!!! They can choose the level of coverage they can AFFORD, and if insurance companies continue to give them less for more there is nothing they can do about it.

    "Please. By virtually any metric - ROA, ROE, etc, insurance companies are at the low end of returns."
    Please, don't patronize me. Insurance companies are some of the largest richest corporations on earth in America, and making yourself look like you lose money while you gain assets is a game going on for years. ROA and ROE are useless parameters. Insurance companies pay huge bonuses and salaries to executives that are all tax deductible in order to make them look like they are just squeaking by. Remember all those years Exxon paid no taxes, because they were so poor...You are making me chuckle semp.

    "Insurance companies are not social service agencies,"
    Well, then perhaps they shouldn't be part of the health equation, because human health IS a social issue not an insurance issue. Money spent on insurance is just added cost to all medical care, as an insurance agent has never treated or diagnosed anyone for anything for health conditions. That is why they should have no place at the health table, as all they are is a cost for nothing.

    "Limiting unnecessary, or pointless, procedures is PART of cost control"

    Well then taking insurance companies out of health care would be a great cost in removing a pointless procedure and a great start in cost control. Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Japan, Australia, NZ, France, and Canada all have means of limiting unnecessary and pointless procedures, but the key is....their populace lives longer, and the overall state of health in those countries is better than free market America, and the vast percentage of Americans would be far better off under their health plans than under what exists in America.

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