Without always seeming to pick on you, this now proves that the stock was not "Manipulated" as the stock has fallen while short interest decreased. Just an FYI, MM's do not short stocks except for hedge funds (not for their own accounts) period. It is a short that the hedge fund told them to do and is passed to them. Hedge funds are not bad people that hide in shadows to try and ruin the market and destroy stocks. They used detailed analysis on whether they think a stock is overvalued or not. BTW, they also go long stocks as SAC Capital did with ALU. ALL hedge funds on the planet have less money under management than Blackrock which owns a 10% stake in ALU. I am not predicting what the future price is (hopefully higher) but every time you claim manipulation it makes you appear as if you have no clue. May 9 will tell the story, but it would be nice if we went into earnings over $4 obviously.
If you are 100% sure you shouldn't be chatting on a message board, but at a bank getting a home equity loan and putting it all into ALU. I am long as well, but give it a break.
That's some company. Look at the 1 year chart, Management has only lost you 99.5% of your money. You did better if you bought Lehman before they filed for bankruptcy.
I watched it and love 60 minutes but that piece was awful. Bats was an ECN (I have a wooden bat from them when they first started). They are now an exchange. That info came from a guy writing a book so he is going to stretch the truth.... IT DOES NOT EFFECT A STOCK MORE THAN SUBSECOND. So yes under CERTAIN circumstances this could happen though not to a retail investor such as you or I. If a MM places an order (always on behalf of an Asset Manager that's how the business works) for 500k MSFT and directs it to only 1 exchange yes this can happen. BUT the computer ripped off the asset manager by buying ahead of him then selling to him as the price rises. It is a zero sum game for a retail investor.
The industry (and therefore the street) expect them to be one of the top players in this lucrative market? yet they pay a 3.5% dividend and only a multiple of 14?? yeah the street likes their future. Read todays news pal, this may-will lead to cloud computing with China mobile. If we need to team with someone else, so be it.
And I would bet the bank that you are not even short the stock, just a lonely person with nothing better to do than annoy people on a message board.
I will take +3.5% EVERY day. The stock traded a boatload in Paris, so whoever the size seller is (and there is one) who has been pushing this down was hopefully able to finish their selling and we will start to see new money coming in. Bottom line is these contacts HAVE to be profitable and I THINK they will be. BTW, you are a donkey.
Not happening, the French would not allow it. Having said that ALU said they were doing 4-5 tie ups with other firms. Qualcom moved the stock because they took an equity stake. Intel did not and ALU did nothing on the news. I think a tie up with MSFT or preferably Google moves the stock even without them taking a stake in ALU. Any other collaborations with other firms will do nothing for the PPS unless the firm takes a stake in ALU.
That makes no sense. So Deutche bank is losing money in ALU today. sounds like a great business decision. So if what you say is true, being that Merrill, Citigroup and BMO are positive on the stock, they must be shorting.... ANYONE who believes this does not have a clue. AND BTW, Deutche Bank does not own the shares, they are holding the shares for clients as they are a holding company as well as a broker-dealer. If you don't know the difference between the 2, well then I cant help you.
good article... Net-Net obviously a positive, but the last 2 sentences is was scares me... If they are making less, they are going to want more for less from ALU and the like.
there is no such thing as level 3. Period. I traded with the most powerful Institutional trading platform (LAVA Trading) before Citi decided to buy them and basically put them out of business... they were the first direct to market full depth of book and order routing. It was like crack when it first came out, you could buy 250k MSFT in under a second. Since REG NMS it is really irrelevant to see the full depth of book these days as market makers have been dumbed down and dump almost everything into algos. Fidessa is far and away the most used trading platform now, JP Morgan, Merrill and most other big shops use them. MM's do not make money on trades unless they post to a certain destination. the rule of thumb is if you take stock you pay .003 and if you post liquidity you get paid .002 by either an exchange or an ECN. Market makers are not concerned about the rebates or the fees, they just want order flow which has dried up as the buy side can now go direct to market... More importantly, hoping we rally next week, as WB said Cramer (who is a donkey anyway) pumping will be forgotten by Monday. GLT
don't get started with that again. MM's do not see (nor do they care) about retail order or stop orders. All they care about is getting an order (from an institution... that is all they do) whether it is a buy or sell and making a commission. I am getting my butt kicked in this stock at the moment like everyone else (even if you are in at a buck, you are still losing profits), but don't make up excuses why the stock is down. more sellers than buyers at the moment. could change at any time.
If that is the reason you bought (because of a handful of dopes on this message board) you are more lost than I thought. Having said that, the first few cent uptick this morning I will be buying more.