Semp,don't you remember your 3 rd grade lessons on how America was discovered by God fearing people.
The Indians love them and brought them food ,even teaching them how to grow corn.They all danced around the campfires at night after they prayed together.The Indians were eager to learn of the true God who love them all.
As the new world became crowded the Indians decided to move west so the whites would have more room.
In time, Andrew Jackson got the army to help them move to the Oklahoma territory .He did this because he wanted them to have a better place to live.The supreme court didn't want him to move them but because he was a God fearing man and loved the Indians he did it anyway.
As more time passed the God fearing Christians decided the Indians needed and even better places to live and created reservations for them.This was all done out of Christian love. After all Jesus was Lord.
I HAVE NEVER KNOW A PERSON WHO IGNORES FACTS,LIKE ROGER DOES.
I want everyone to know I have no personal knowledge of Roger's drinking problem.
I was just going by a post of rogers.He said that he ,like GWB ,was saved by a wife who stood by him during his past problems.
I may have ,in error,believed he was talking about a drinking problem because GWB was an admitted drunk.
dakins,who labels anyone a Christian???
If you call yourself a Christian, go to a Christian church, represent a Christian Government. proform task in the name of the Pope.in the absents of JC himself calling you a Christian, something he never was, you have to believe these people were doing things as Christians.
BTW: who labeled you as a Christian? I fine some of your post are unchristian like.
Roger,the point is a simple one.
People are a lot more alike then you think.Christains are no better than others. Saying "Jesus is lord" doesn't make a person good or bad.
You think you take the moral high ground and refuse to acknowledge other peoples right to disagree with you.
The truth is Jesus,if he even lived,died 2000 years ago,and is still dead.
The folks who killed out the American Indians were indeed Christians. That is not up for debate, it's a fact. Had they all been agnostics I am sure they would have done the same.
The problem isn't that I think Christians are bad it's your thinking they are better than others.
You don't come any closer to living according to the teaching of Jesus,than I do.
I also understand you have had drinking problems ,in the past, and give your faith credit for "saving you.It was you and not your faith that deserves the credit.
You need to think before you go on another crazy rant.
Semp,you remind me of Southerners I talked to in the 60s,They would say thing like'I don't understand these trouble maker trying to stir up the Blacks[only they used the N word ]we treat our "N" with the respect and kindness ,as long as they know their place.
Kind of reminds me of one of the GOP front runners"some of the Mexicans are decent, I guess"
Nike,Apple could stop child labor abuse overnight,if they chose.
Oh Roger,for every Christian missionary there were hundreds of Christians trying to wipe out the Indians.
Get a grip. The Buffalo slaughter was aimed at wiping out the Indians.The trail of tears was designed to kill thousands, and it did. Remember Roger, these genocidal programs were all preformed by "good Christians".
The difference between you and I is I have facts on my side .
Semp,you don't think apple,nike and other American corps don't.know child labor is used and abused. It's also condoned by the Chinese government. Surly you don't believe otherwise.
As for prison labor, yes there are still" chain gangs' in places like Ariz.I don't have a problem with it.
Derrick,you need a mental check up.
First ,I never sais anything about "in the name of greed". That was roger.
As for all the animals you say Indian made extent. You need to read further.
The infestation of Indians with small [ox wasn't always accidental. Also the White Indian conflict killed millions of Indians.
Again ,you need to read your history.
Roger,I see Semp gave you another history lesson.You never give up do you.You pretend you love everyone and don't hate.Your life is a lie.
Most "Christians" who came to the new world weren't missionary,but a good number of them murdered in the name of Jesus.Your trouble with the truth is stunning.
I do agree there are a lot of abused children in the world and abuse of children is sanctioned by many governments.
BTW:Looks like your Christian buddy is living in 60s,in the south.
You do know my people weren't killed right off the bat.It was a slow process. They were discriminated against first. Killing was just the final step.
randy,Why am I here?Because I want to be and I will post what I want.I don't tell you what to post so shut up,dummy.
I was on this board long before you and will be here long after you go broke.
Yes,you can always find an Indian if you want to build a casino.
Myself and members of my family have had DNA testing and the findings are interesting.It looks like some American Indian tribes have a lot more European DNA than can explained by cross breeding with white people
Oh yes Roger,Those pure christians couldn't do any harm. A tribe in NM ,just one example, had the right leg of every male amputated,by the Spanish, because they weren't Christians.
It's you roger who thinks Christians are pure , and know the only way.
Your ignorance is your bliss. Millions have been murdered in the name of Jesus, by Christians.
Your ignorance of history is obscene.
Yes,Semp,just one more competitor.
The native tribes and the white Europeans had the same low moral standards.
What kind of people kill millions,drive them on reservations,give them blankets containing Small pox and completely destroy their civilization? All done in the name of a GOD.
But these couldn't of been Christians because Christian never harm others.
I need some suggestions on who these killers were.They were from Spain, France, Portugal and England.
When you hear from God that's he offended, please let up know. Of course, you don't need to hear from him.
It's in your book of fiction.
If there was a GOD, of all the people, , he wouldn't be offended.
If you believed in human dignity you wouldn't be offended . The very idea you are better than others is offensive.
Dakine ,Bull. You see all the" moral decay",worldwide unrest and all that other stuff.If that's what you see you are blind.
"Moral decay" and unrest has been going on for thousands of year.Will maybe not in the "New World" that moral decay ,murder and unrest didn't start until the Christians got there.
You need to peddle that stuff to real ignorant people.
Don't worry, when you die you will be dead forever,
Roger,I could care less what NASCAR does.I have zero interest in it.
Unless there is a good wreck, it's just traffic making left turns.