=why you did spend so much time only on Abat
I didn't post "only on ABAT". There were over a dozen other obvious frauds I posted about. BCONQ (BCON), HEVVQ (HEV, HEVV), FABU (FAB), SCEIQ (SCEI), ALTI, FUTU, CBEH, SENY, etc. etc.
=You know very well that helping Newbies cannot be done on message boards
I never had any allusions I would save the world posting here. What I did was target a few mom and pops that would have otherwise gotten defrauded by twisty and the other pumpers who kept playing them for personal gain by posting outright lies and misinformation. Look up "The Starfish Story". The little boy couldn't save every starfish... "but I saved that one".
I have given the real reason I post here many times. I was the beneficiary of a similar type of poster back on the Raging Bull boards many years ago when I was an ignorant trader. I learned a lot and went on to make a small fortune. I choose to give back the knowledge I received and pay it forward to the next generation. If you look back in hindsight, many of my posts were general in nature. I taught people how to do research and how to play these rigged markets and not get taken.
Best of luck to all in your future investing pursuits. Believe nobody on an anonymous public message board and verify everything for yourself. I gave the supporting documentation for what I posted. Those who chose to ignore it did so at their own peril.
=now saying it was worth 92
It really is amazing how clueless someone can be! I didn't say AAPL was worth $92... I repeated what THE MARKET said AAPL was worth:
08/24/2015 94.87 108.8 92 103.12 161,882,500
Are you really so dense you couldn't comprehend where the $92 came from when that was the low on the day I posted? $92 is what the public priced AAPL at before the PPT entered to manipulate the markets once more. It was not a prediction or a calue determination on my part... it was the value of a trade hours before my post.
ditzy, you have shown yourself to be a total (insert your favorite ditzilla descriptor here), but this latest one takes the cake.
=my trades were exactly as i stated
We keep telling you that you don't need to remember anything if you don't lie:
"Bought apple at 123,118,112, and tomorrow. Now have 9600 shares."
"8200 shares strong on apple all in"
You still haven't explained how you owned 9600 shares before claiming to place an order for 1400 shares even though only 900 filled on a day when your limit was $7.50 higher and yet ended up with LESS shares than the day you bought more.
We're guessing you weren't a math teacher.
Read the post this is in reply to. It was back from when we could still post links and proves all of the lies and contradictions from ditzy and his ever-changing history with AAPL shares.
=your latest call of 92.
I never made a "call of 92" on AAPL. It was the price it traded at before the PPT entered to give the illusion our markets weren't crashing.
The PROOF you lied about your trade is obvious to any REAL trader. First, you claimed to only be able to fill 900 shares of a 1400 share limit order. This was when 162,000,000 shares valued at $17,000,000,000 traded for the day. AAPL is one of the most liquid stocks and can move indexes which is why the PPT always chooses it to reverse market crashes. The second proof is when you claimed your partial fills were $1.29 apart. Anybody can look up the Yahoo quote and click on "order Book: on the left and see the Bid and Ask stacks are in one penny increments on AAPL. You don't place a limit order for 1400 AAPL at $99.50 and only get fills that total 900 shares at prices ranging from $96.04 to $94.75. The entire 1400 share order would fill immediately and the prices would be within a few pennies at the most and not a range of $1.29. I never stated the whole lot had to fill at once. The best Bid and Ask for AAPL is usually a few hundred shares, but 1400 shares would fill immediately for a price within a couple pennies. To claim you only had 900 shares of a 1400 share order fill when the price went $7.50 below your limit is preposterous.
You seem to keep forgetting when AAPL was $700 three years ago and you said it was going to $1,000 when I said it was headed to $360. It went to $385 and you would have lost millions of dollars on your failed calls as you continued to buy Calls in the $600s and $500s all the way down. You even said you "mortgaged the house" to buy Calls that expired worthless.
Your lies are well documented and you really need to seek help. It takes a special brand of mental illness to keep coming back when you are punked over and over.
"Bought apple at 123,118,112, and tomorrow. Now have 9600 shares."
"8200 shares strong on apple all in"
LOL... Which is it?
=My orders were filled as posted
This is what he said:
"Filled 900 at 96.04 and 94.75"
Now let's examine the FACTS. AAPL traded over 162,000,000 shares yesterday for a total dollar volume of around $17,000,000,000. That's right... 162M shares on one of the most liquid stocks out there and ditzy is stating that he could only fill 900 shares of a 1400 share limit order for $99.50 when AAPL traded as low as $92. Not only could he only get a partial fill, but the range of prices for the fills was well over a dollar.
The reality is that a REAL order for 1400 shares with a limit of $99.50 would have filled completely immediately and the price would have been the same or within a penny or two at the most difference. Have you ever looked at the Bid Stack and Ask Prices for AAPL? Go to the Yahoo quote page for AAPL and click on "Order Book" at the left. You will see the stack is in increments of one penny for AAPL and there is no way that an order for just 1400 shares "Filled 900 at 96.04 and 94.75".
The amazing thing is ditzy is so clueless that he keeps posting his lies and is so stupid that he can't grasp that anybody who makes REAL trades with REAL money can easily see the implausibility of his ludicrous claims.
LMAO! A partial fill at a spread of $1.29 when the stock traded 162M shares. Unbelievable!
You never count your money... while you're sittin' at the table....
There were two certainties for today:
1) The markets would crash.
2) The Plunge Protection Team would enter to give the illusion they hadn't.
Made a ton of money on the way down and on the way back up. Selling everything now and will await the imminent further drops.
Too funny ditzy is lying about more trades. He still doesn't understand what Time and Sales Reports are and his supposed fill of a 1400 share order for APPL was IMPOSSIBLE at his claimed prices. AAPL is worth $92 right now and will be less soon with China imploding. AAPL is always the stock the PPT props up as it has the market cap and liquidity to most easily move the market to give the illusion to the sheeple all is well.
Besides, ditzy... you had already announced covering your GOOG short when it would have been for a huge loss and putting that money into TWTR at $40. You are so mentally ill that you just can't keep your lies straight anymore. Good thing you have already lost all your money and your trades are all on paper as you leave a trail of lies and losses.
I wonder how many billions of dollars it took for the PPT to give the illusion our markets aren't totally crashing today? I'm sure people like Buffet and Soros got the exact timing so they could short early and then go long at the right time while the small investors all got stopped out for huge losses.
If you aren't one of those that understands what is happening, look at the lows today for your stocks. That is their true value right now and it will be less than that soon. Consider the actions of the PPT a gift and get out before the uber-wealthy take more profits at your expense.
The source was posted here many times. It was a contemporaneous article from the local Dongguan News. Google this and click "translate" on the first hit:
=Disclaimer: I have no connection whatsoever with lbcb321, I have never met him or communicated with him except for on this message board. He hates me, because I have adopted the persona of a racist, dangerous, and (to some people), threatening bigot. (And prolly for a bunch of other reasons too).
LOL. I do speak up when I see offensive content whether it be from pumper, basher or whatever. I like how you say it is a "persona" as I believe you are probably much more of a centrist on your views and you are playing a Devil's Advocate role in some of your postings while taking an extreme viewpoint.
I don't "hate you", but I am dismayed by any racist and/or anti-Semitic posts and speak out against such content. I think it diminishes the other valid content you provide.
ditzy has a single-digit return on AAPL for 3 years and can now tout "last chance for under $26" on TWTR after his buys for $40. Just can't explain someone like that who is so delusional that he continually tries to put down his betters who keep making money hand over fist while he keeps making failed calls over and over.
VIX was a no-brainer and I am mostly in cash other than some miners that were beaten down. Took some more profits there and am happy with my average buy-ins on the rest.
It really is amazing that you can try to educate the sheeple as to how the game is played and they continue to buy at the highs and sell at the lows over and over.
More pain to come. With volatility there is always opportunity, but this is no time to catch falling knives.
Not done yet. We still need the final order of revocation:
I FURTHER ORDER that a party may file a petition for review of this Initial Decision
within twelve days after service of the Initial Decision. See 17 C.F.R. § 201.360(b).
The initial decision was July 20, 2015. Notice there is 12 days AFTER SERVICE of the initial decision. Will have to see who is able to be served and if they were able to do that. They should have been able to serve the Registered Agent in Nevada now that the charter is active there again. If they tried to serve Ren... they may not have legal service yet and that is dragging out the final order.
There will be a final order eventually. Seiden is just trying to milk every penny he can out of this. He filed frivolous motions in the matter of revocation that have already been ruled on many times by the SEC. Seiden should be fined, IMO, and sued by shareholders. He never acted in the best interests of shareholders, IMO, and that should be obvious to everyone now.
I have watched TRQ for the last couple years as you have talked about it, but I just can't warm up to it. Buying FCX at the bottom will be an easy double or even triple in the next 12 months. I think we might be within 10% of a low there and I may begin nibbling now. Another deep cyclical that you can make a lot of money with.
And just one day later...
HL - Up 17% (make that 30%) from its bottom. I started a little early and my average is $1.93.
TGD - Up 9% (make that 28%) from its bottom.
GPL - Up 30% (make that 63%) from its bottom.
FSM - Up 18% (make that 26%) from its bottom.
PAAS - Up 14% (make that 22%) from its bottom.
Sold half my GPL this morning for over 40% profit after averaging down. And ditzy is happy AAPL is up 10% now in THREE YEARS as he continues to get crushed on GOOG, AMZN, TWTR, etc.
Averaged down to under $9.50 on AA. Still a smallish position. Hoping it goes under $9, but anything under $10 is a no-brainer for 30% - 60% gain in the next 6 to 12 months. Copper will be a very nice play, also, but still a little early. Nibble a little to keep it on your radar. So easy to buy deep cyclicals for 50% gains. Why anybody would hold ABAT until the revocation announcement is beyond me. Opportunity is everywhere now.
Lost money can be made back, but dead money is forever.
Are you sure?
If a listed stock closes or ends the trading day below $1 for 30 consecutive days, it is a candidate for delisting or removal from NYSE trading. The NYSE typically suspends trading in the stock after the 30th day that it averages below $1 per share. This happened to Eastman Kodak in January 2012, when it fell toward bankruptcy."
They seem to be very specific when they use "trading day" and just "day" in the description. Taking their words as stated... it would not take 30 trading days, but 30 consecutive days after the first trading day that closes below $1. I'll have to go to the source and look it up again. Luckily, I don't run across this with the stocks I trade.
THE LETTER should be on the way.
It is utterly amazing there are still those who view this as a "silver play" and not the speculative gamble on a Chinese fraud that it really is. Good luck to anybody who thinks they can time the pops and drops, but I hope you don't actually think this is investment-grade.
You can't go wrong with HL. You have seen me make money on it over and over. Time to take another look at my basket of 5 miners:
HL - Up 17% from its bottom. I started a little early and my average is $1.93.
TGD - Up 9% from its bottom.
GPL - Up 30% from its bottom.
FSM - Up 18% from its bottom.
PAAS - Up 14% from its bottom.
I almost sold my GPL for quick 25% profit, but I am always selling a little early. Profits are nice to protect, but I am going to hang on to my miners a little longer and get the 50% return instead of 20% - 30%. Don't see anything else that interests me yet. There will be a time to buy Caterpillar, John Deere, Cummins and even Alcoa Aluminum again. Not yet, but watch for a nice low on AA. It didn't take out the 52 week low, but I grabbed a little under $10 so I wouldn't miss out. Keep it on your radar and grab some under $9 if it takes out the 52 week low. Sure 50% gainer in the next year. Was it andrew that learned to watch AA? Very safe stock and you can make a big percentage gain by playing it as a deep cyclical.
=With all the scrutiny of the watchdogs on wall street
You lost us with your initial premise. There is no scrutiny other than the ability to short an obvious fraud. That doesn't apply here as nobody ill pay the huge margin to short a two penny stock that could be suspended at any moment. The SEC does not look out for the public as is evidenced by all the proven frauds that still trade.
=Nobody has gone to his headquarters and sat and spoke with Dieter ?
Nobody is at their address and nobody takes phone calls or answers email. Go ahead... try it yourself.
=They either are the smartest pair of deceptions or they really have their mind set on delivering a product.
They are so clueless that they have set themselves up as being too obvious to deal with. Anybody who spends an hour doing DD and still thinks this is investment-grade is too stupid to be an individual investor and should turn over their money to a professional while there is still some left.
They can't produce a few for a dog and pony show because they don't have enough money and they don't even have a finalized design. The Early Adopter Program is a sham. They never responded to inquiries about it. Just try verifying the patents they claim were issued and applied for. Anybody can go to the US Patent and Trademark Office website and verify that no patents have EVER been issued or applied for by Sauer Energy or Dieter Sauer. Dozens and dozens of blatant lies from their PRs have been documented on this board.
Why would you own a single share to support a proven fraud?
=the fact is there has never been any verifiable actual news about seny that has any bearing on selling anything at all ever.
I will verify one more blatant lie that is part of the fraudulent scheme. There is no Early Adopter Program as they claimed last month.
"If you are a nonprofit organization (501 (c)(3)) and would like to be considered for the Early Adopter Program, please contact us at the email address below so that we may include you in our selection process."
I spoke with a director of a 501(c)(3) nonprofit corporation that emailed the address given many weeks ago and has received zero reply. There are no replies to any shareholder and there are no replies when they have requested that interested parties contact them. This is a blatant fraud that exists to place more worthless shares into the hands of the public while enriching Dieter and Ana. They don't even do anything and skim off $100,000 in salaries each year. Who knows how much of the "consultant fees" are given directly to them or are subject to kickbacks. They continue to have no product and their verifiable lies are numerous. Just do a search of their claimed patents (both existing and applied for) and you will see there are ZERO approved and ZERO applied patents for them.
It is amazing nobody has called the local prosecuting attorney to file a fraud complaint. The SEC will not help you, but the fraudulent intent is so easy to prove just from their own PRs full of blatant lies that a local prosecuting attorney would have no choice but to take action to end this crime.
=I have to ask this question lbcb......will you finally tell the real truth about your entity and hatred for ABAT
You have seen the history with your own eyes, yet you choose to make up some grand conspiracy. I was posting almost exclusively on the Beacon Power (flywheels) board. It was mainly myself and one other poster (cybear) that proved they were a sham spewing lies about their systems and the potential revenue and the inevitable bankruptcy that followed there. I also followed the battery sector closely. It was realdutch that told me I should look at ABAT. I have shown you the post I made in reply to realdutch just one week before the VVR report where I told him I didn't think their numbers looked believable and they had huge short interest accumulating and looked like a candidate for a hit-piece. I was spot-on with that call.
The history of how I came here is verifiable and the reasons did not come after the fact when the price tanked with the VVR, Prescience and Kerrisdale reports. realdutch verified all this yet you choose to believe I am part of some entity that is trying to manipulate ABAT stock.
You really do need to seek help. You simply cannot accept reality and your paranoia is getting the better of you.
By the way... why did you sell at .92 when you claim this is worth many times that amount and they are worth hundreds of millions of dollars? They were never worth more than the $100M they received from stock placements and that money was funneled-off to Foo and his cronies through many obvious acts of self-dealing. When the cash was siphoned off, they began taking out as much debt as the creditors would allow and it was just a matter of time until the assets began being seized through foreclosure actions. The Chinese fraud cycle completes once more and you are too much in denial to view what is obvious to the rest of the world.
=the last we officially heard from ABAT was about the technology changeover
Which was proven to be a lie when we saw the court documents showing ABAT had the Dongguan assets seized through a court order. We also have seen from the local Dongguan newspaper that ABAT quit paying their employees and was being sued by the local authorities.
= Closing a plant for refurbishing was my conclusion
Once more... that makes you delusional. How can you be in so much denial that you will ignore official court documents and contemporaneous articles from the local newspapers proving this was not the case?
=for all we really know is that ABAT had been hoarding money away for the next product release
No... what we know for a FACT is that ABAT had to take out debt on all three operating subsidiaries and they couldn't even pay a creditor less than a million dollars and had the Dongguan assets frozen and seized over this relatively small amount. They also quit paying employees, yet you continue to believe these are the actions of a thriving company that is hoarding piles of cash.
Like I said... you are entitled to your opinions, but your opinions are preposterous when confronted with the FACTS of the situation.