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lbcb321 149 posts  |  Last Activity: 16 hours ago Member since: Jun 4, 2010
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  • Did you know that Google reports that the sauerenergy website is hacked? Hilarious! Just google sauer energy and look at what comes up. It is unbelievable the gall of Dieter and Ana to continue to portray to the world they are this big company when all they have ever sold is stock. They even attempt to hide they are husband and wife as Ana is still listed as "Ana Rosa" and not Ana Sauer on their website. Her title is Executive Operations Officer. Pretty amazing what they have gotten away with through the years.

  • Reply to

    Looks like they got evicted...

    by lbcb321 May 21, 2015 12:49 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 21, 2015 1:21 PM Flag

    I think that is their old address and not the new one. They haven't updated many pages on their website for years. They announced that address in August of 2012. They are preparing you for the loss of their lease, though. This from their latest email:

    "Expanding SEI’s business to a larger facility is a much needed advancement, and long overdue. This move will improve our ability to perform R&D while continuing the production process without pause."

    What a joke. People confirmed driving by the old facility and it wasn't even being utilized. It is a lie to say they needed a "larger facility" when they aren't actually DOING anything.

  • from their old location. New address:

    4670 Calle Carga
    Unit A
    Camarillo, CA 93012

    More lies and deceptions when they said they had to move because they needed a "bigger" location when they weren't even using the big space they had leased. Will have to look it up on Google street view. Probably a run-down warehouse they couldn't rent out and the owner took some stock in lieu of cash.

    If you feel you were defrauded by Sauer Energy through the years with all their lies, you need to contact the Ventura County Prosecutors Office:

    Main Office

    Ventura County Government Center
    Hall of Justice
    800 S. Victoria Ave., Suite 314
    Ventura, CA 93009
    General: 805-654-2500
    Crime Victims' Assistance: 805-654-3622

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Bureau of Investigation

    646 County Square Drive
    Ventura, CA 93003
    General: 805-477-1630

    The SEC will not help you. You need a local investigation that will confirm they are not the manufacturer they claim to be and they have no employees and virtually no operations whatsoever. They are in business to sell stock and funnel the money to Dieter ($80,000 a year), his wife Ana ($19,500 a year) and various "consultants" who probably provide kickbacks. There have been many millions of shares issued to consultants with no products to show for it. All the investigators need to do is read the SENY PRs through the years to confirm the fraud.

  • Reply to

    Good News

    by newyearabat May 20, 2015 8:19 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 21, 2015 12:31 PM Flag

    bigalsab and his many aliases are done with their pump & dump campaign with CSGH and have turned their attention back to ABAT. What a pathetic individual or small group of individuals that goes from worthless stock to worthless stock and cons the naïve into investing with lies and deceptions.

    The tactics are always the same... take unrelated companies and try to make it appear they have something to do with the worthless stock they are pushing. It is one thing to be a newbie and get taken, but when you have seen it play out for many years and you STILL fall for it....

  • Reply to

    Always a press release, never a product to sell

    by tomarcoo May 20, 2015 12:51 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 20, 2015 4:35 PM Flag

    =Anyone check to see if these patents even exist?

    Yes. Anybody can do the search online. No patents issued to Sauer Energy or Dieter Sauer and no applications ever filed for either of these entities. The fraud continues.

    Issued Patents Database:

    Searching US Patents Text Collection ...

    Results of Search in US Patents Text Collection db for:
    AANM/"sauer energy": 0 patents.

    No patents have matched your query

    Searching US Patents Text Collection ...

    Results of Search in US Patents Text Collection db for:
    AANM/"dieter sauer": 0 patents.

    No patents have matched your query

    Applications Database:

    Searching PGPUB Full-Text Database...

    Results of Search in PGPUB Full-Text Database db for:
    AN/"sauer energy": 0 applications.

    No application publications have matched your query.

    Searching PGPUB Full-Text Database...

    Results of Search in PGPUB Full-Text Database db for:
    AN/"dieter sauer": 0 applications.

    No application publications have matched your query.

    When they gave the date for a patent they supposedly got in New Zealand, I also checked that database and they LIED about that one, also.

    The SEC is impotent and worthless... anybody who was defrauded needs to call the prosecuting attorney for their county in California and call the FBI and issue a complaint.

  • Reply to

    YGE saying Bye Bye

    by ditzil May 18, 2015 4:43 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 19, 2015 5:26 AM Flag

    More lies and misinformation from twisty.

    Along with all his usual delusional-speak, here is yet another outright lie:

    "They also state a share buyback is Board approved."

    The actual quote from the PR:

    "The planned share buyback requires board approval."

    Just a sliiiiight difference there, huh twisty?

    It doesn't matter if a BOD approved it or not... it absolutely 100% CANNOT happen while they are delinquent on filings. That would be illegal insider trading on nonpublic information.

    You always know when twisty is selling when the lies get bigger and bigger. He has played you all for chumps for years now with his many pump & dump campaigns. Most of the pumping aliases and some of the bashing aliases are all twisty as he swindles you on both sides.

    So, twisty, show us where you got your information that a "share buyback is Board approved".

  • Reply to

    400,000

    by twist.nrev May 12, 2015 5:51 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 17, 2015 8:04 PM Flag

    =one way investors to not come out ahead

    Yup. That one way to not come out ahead is to stick with any stock once it has been exposed. Dead money is always worse than lost money. You can recover lost money, but dead money is forever.

    Let's look at the current example. twisty often lies and says the current price is due to VVR, Prescience, Kerrisdale and all the "bashers" such as myself.

    ABAT traded for as high as $2.62 down from $3.51 AFTER the VVR report was digested. If ABAT was innocent, they would have taken the offensive and continued filing.

    Drop from $3.51 to $2.62 is a loss of 25%. After this $2.62 price, they had a grand opening for a new factory. If they were innocent and acted in that manner, why shouldn't the price be higher than $2.62 regardless of the VVR report? Instead of mitigating this 25% loss, they shirked their responsibilities. They quit filing which was ALL their fault and under their control. This got them delisted. By the way... they did NOT get delisted for failing to prove cash. NASDAQ was trying to work with them and only issued a delisting letter after they were delinquent in required quarterly filings. They would have been delisted even if they verified cash.

    The drop from $2.62 to .25 is over a 90% drop. This is ALL on ABAT. Instead of mitigating the effects of the 25% drop by acting in a professional manner, through their actions and inactions they accelerated the losses to an ADDITIONAL 90% loss! Total loss from $3.51 to .25 is a 93% loss. 90% loss caused by ABAT. Total loss of 93%. Now tell us who is to blame? You know I am right, but you can't take a step back to look at it logically.

    Anybody could have gotten out over 4 years ago for a 25% loss. If you would have put that money in even an index fund, you would have a huge return instead of sitting on your dead money.

    twisty is selling again... are YOU buying his lies and manipulation again? Losses can be regained. Dead money is the portfolio killer.

  • Reply to

    This thing is going to take off

    by ctrl_alt_del_key May 13, 2015 3:48 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 14, 2015 11:14 AM Flag

    =What follows the pump?

    You got your answer.

    The lies and misinformation once more conned a lot of good people. The perpetrator has done this many times with many worthless stocks. The aliases are many, but you know him here as ibn8n, kc79acres etc. etc. along with some new ones just for this campaign.

    Believe NOBODY. Not "pumper" or "basher" and verify everything for yourself. CSGH is the symbol for a defunct company that has zero assets. It is NOT doing business in China. The names they are coming up with and the websites they want you to visit have nothing to do with the stock you own. Go to the Delaware corporations site and verify you own stock in a company that is defunct and will probably get supended/revoked imminently by the SEC now that it has fallen to the manipulators to scam the public.

  • Reply to

    This thing is going to take off

    by ctrl_alt_del_key May 13, 2015 3:48 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 13, 2015 3:59 PM Flag

    What follows the pump?

    Fools and their money parted once more.

  • Reply to

    4 new patents.... So what..

    by hoopinvt May 7, 2015 8:29 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 12, 2015 4:31 PM Flag

    If anybody feels they were the victim of fraud, I encourage them to contact the prosecuting attorney in the county where SENY has their offices or they can also contact the FBI as this fraud crosses state lines. I have not suffered a loss and am not a "victim". I just hate to see good people get taken by scams.

  • Reply to

    4 new patents.... So what..

    by hoopinvt May 7, 2015 8:29 AM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 11, 2015 11:19 AM Flag

    Yahoo continues to be complicit in this fraud by deleting posts which prove the lies. Do your own search at the US Patent & Trademark Office online database. ZERO patents have EVER been issued to Sauer Energy or Dieter Sauer and ZERO APPLICATIONS have ever been submitted when searching under those two names.

    Issued Patents Database:

    Searching US Patents Text Collection ...

    Results of Search in US Patents Text Collection db for:
    AANM/"sauer energy": 0 patents.

    No patents have matched your query

    Searching US Patents Text Collection ...

    Results of Search in US Patents Text Collection db for:
    AANM/"dieter sauer": 0 patents.

    No patents have matched your query

    Applications Database:

    Searching PGPUB Full-Text Database...

    Results of Search in PGPUB Full-Text Database db for:
    AN/"sauer energy": 0 applications.

    No application publications have matched your query.

    Searching PGPUB Full-Text Database...

    Results of Search in PGPUB Full-Text Database db for:
    AN/"dieter sauer": 0 applications.

    No application publications have matched your query.

    Verify everything for yourself and you will see this is a confirmed fraud.

  • Reply to

    huge Volume

    by bigalsab May 4, 2015 1:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 6, 2015 1:39 PM Flag

    =CSGH does not file with the SEC
    The Co. is still in business doing better than ever.

    So many lies from ibn8n and his MANY aliases. He says CSGH is still in business. How to verify if I am telling the truth or if ibn8n is telling the truth:

    Go to the SEC Edgar database. Look up any of their filings. Confirm on the filing they are a Delaware corporation. Go to the Delaware corporations website and enter their name. You will find the company you own stock in has been abandoned and is no longer in business. Easily verifiable PROOF for all to see.

  • Reply to

    huge Volume

    by bigalsab May 4, 2015 1:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 6, 2015 1:35 PM Flag

    =Of course CSGH is state owned.

    No matter how many times you repeat the nonsense, it doesn't make it true. CSGH is the stock symbol for China Sun High-Tech Co. This is a defunct US holding company that was chartered in Delaware. It is NOT a state-owned company in China. Why do you keep repeating this lie instead of verifying the truth for yourself?

  • Reply to

    huge Volume

    by bigalsab May 4, 2015 1:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 6, 2015 1:33 PM Flag

    =The company is currently doing business in China

    No they're not. You own shares in China Sun High-Tech Co. and not any company that is doing business in China. The manipulators are showing you different names than this and telling you that is your investment. Go to the Delaware corporate lookup website and view the status of the company you own shares in.

    =The Delaware corporation is defunct because they have not kept standard timely financial information and have allowed the company and stock to languish.

    Renewing the corporate charter in Delaware has absolutely nothing to do with filing financial documents with the SEC. Failing to renew the corporate charter in Delaware is proof they have abandoned the US holding company. Don't believe me or anybody else on an anonymous public message board. Verify for yourself what you own shares in. Go to the otcmarkets website. Go to the Delaware corporation lookup. Call your broker.

    A few thousand dollars trading hands is nothing. The manipulators are trolling for the most ignorant of all to con. What do you have to lose? Verify things for yourself. I don't post rumor and innuendo and expect you to believe it. I show you where to verify the FACTS for yourself.

  • Reply to

    huge Volume

    by bigalsab May 4, 2015 1:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 5, 2015 4:30 PM Flag

    =All I know is I found it in China and it is listed as a state own corporation

    The "it" you are referring to is not CSGH (China Sun High-Tech Co.). You keep conning others into believing some other operating company in China is what these people own stock in and it is NOT. CSGH is NOT a Chinese state-owned company. It is a defunct Delaware corporation.

  • Reply to

    huge Volume

    by bigalsab May 4, 2015 1:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 5, 2015 4:28 PM Flag

    =if it is defunct, why would there be any buying going on now? You don't make any sense.

    Go look at BCONQ. Their bankruptcy was discharged years ago yet the stock still trades. It is an empty shell. The SEC allows these companies to trade, but usually steps in once they come under the control of manipulators and pump & dump campaigns. I agree with you that it doesn't make any sense, but that is how it works.

    Just go to the Delaware website and look up what you own shares in.

  • Reply to

    huge Volume

    by bigalsab May 4, 2015 1:23 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 5, 2015 3:57 PM Flag

    =Are my shares still valid?

    What do you mean by "valid"? Go to the corporations lookup page for the State of Delaware and you will see you own shares in a defunct entity. You never owned shares in anything other than this holding company that has no assets and never had any legal recourse over any assets in China.

    =Are they obligated to us in the US?

    Of course not. Chinese law is clear that the operating subsidiaries in China owe a fiduciary duty to their Chinese shareholders and NOT to the foreign holding companies. As an owner of the defunct US holding company, you have nothing. Enjoy the pump & dump campaign while you can. TOO funny 100 shares were bought at 3.99 pennies to make it look like the price is high. The Bid is still 2.6 cents. To sell any volume you will have to go much lower.

    =It would be nice to know if the SEC is watching them.

    The SEC is impotent and worthless. There are dozens of proven frauds and empty shells still trading. This manipulation is the type of thing that sometimes gets them to act. Don't be surprised if they get suspended soon and the revocation proceedings begin.

  • lbcb321 lbcb321 May 5, 2015 3:11 PM Flag

    This is where the manipulators con you. You don't own shares in Dalian Xinyang High Tech Development Ltd. You own shares in China Sun Group High-Tech Co. which is a defunct Delaware corporation. You own no assets which is why the stock sat at a fraction of a penny until the manipulators chose it for a pump & dump campaign. Verify it for yourself and do a lookup at the Delaware corporations website.

  • Reply to

    CSGH up 152.9 % today

    by ibn8n May 5, 2015 12:20 PM
    lbcb321 lbcb321 May 5, 2015 2:34 PM Flag

    HILARIOUS! ibn8n and his merry band of aliases (kc79acres, etc) is pumping yet another abandoned holding company. Reprint of post on CSGH site:

    CSGH is on the OTC. You can keep making up places to look for "official" news or you can go straight to the source. Go to otcmarkets.com and enter CSGH. Click on "Company Profile". Click on the website link. It takes you to a Chinese porn site! LMAO!

    The US holding company is defunct. The assets are gone. You don't own any shares in any company that operates in China. You own shares in an abandoned US holding company. When will the delusional finally get a clue that you are being manipulated? ibn8n and his MANY aliases will be happy to con you, but there is no value here.

    Want another way to verify it? They are chartered in Delaware so go to:

    https://delecorp.delaware.gov/tin/GINameSearch.jsp?frmFileNumber=

    Enter china sun group in the entity name. They do not have a Registered Agent (resigned) so they cannot have a current legal business entity. It has been abandoned. You can pay $10 to verify they are defunct or $20 to get further information. Why on earth do you hang on every word of the manipulators when you can verify FACTS from official websites?

  • lbcb321 lbcb321 May 5, 2015 2:32 PM Flag

    CSGH is on the OTC. You can keep making up places to look for "official" news or you can go straight to the source. Go to otcmarkets.com and enter CSGH. Click on "Company Profile". Click on the website link. It takes you to a Chinese porn site! LMAO!

    The US holding company is defunct. The assets are gone. You don't own any shares in any company that operates in China. You own shares in an abandoned US holding company. When will the delusional finally get a clue that you are being manipulated? ibn8n and his MANY aliases will be happy to con you, but there is no value here.

    Want another way to verify it? They are chartered in Delaware so go to:

    https://delecorp.delaware.gov/tin/GINameSearch.jsp?frmFileNumber=

    Enter china sun group in the entity name. They do not have a Registered Agent (resigned) so they cannot have a current legal business entity. It has been abandoned. You can pay $10 to verify they are defunct or $20 to get further information. Why on earth do you hang on every word of the manipulators when you can verify FACTS from official websites?

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