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loclac 6 posts  |  Last Activity: Jan 13, 2015 2:05 PM Member since: Aug 12, 1999
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    No volume and no recovery

    by kcaliaskurt Jan 13, 2015 9:53 AM
    loclac loclac Jan 13, 2015 2:05 PM Flag

    Here's a scary thought. Go back to when it was in the $10 range and my recollection is it tended to trade at a multiple of 10! You don't want to do the arithmetic on that scenario, but when they break down like this anything is possible. There's just no serious market for this outside the cozy little group that's held it all these years

  • Reply to

    No volume and no recovery

    by kcaliaskurt Jan 13, 2015 9:53 AM
    loclac loclac Jan 13, 2015 12:15 PM Flag

    I don't fault them for not adding more Tokyo's in such a short time, but they do have to get that pe down. As you point out they'll need more big wins to accomplish that or get better traction from their pipeline of offerings. And we've heard little about that.
    I suppose the comforting stat is the insiders are holding, it's the funds moving out.

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    The optimist says "It could be worse"

    by dorianpc Nov 17, 2014 8:35 PM
    loclac loclac Nov 18, 2014 5:16 PM Flag

    I'm not! For some reason my letters are being converted. Your's and others seem okay.

  • Reply to

    The optimist says "It could be worse"

    by dorianpc Nov 17, 2014 8:35 PM
    loclac loclac Nov 18, 2014 5:09 PM Flag

    Not me. Y#$%$hoo seems to be repl#$%$cing letters with symbols. Noticed it on #$%$ couple of other posts #$%$s well. Converts them to nonsensic#$%$l.

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    The optimist says "It could be worse"

    by dorianpc Nov 17, 2014 8:35 PM
    loclac loclac Nov 18, 2014 3:52 PM Flag

    Be p#$%$tient, it will get worse.
    Combined wholes#$%$le business is doing ok#$%$y, but they're m#$%$n#$%$ging to undermine th#$%$t with ret#$%$il exp#$%$nsions th#$%$t #$%$re killing them.
    More stores, more lines th#$%$t #$%$ren't selling ect ect. Presum#$%$bly they c#$%$n't #$%$fford the fin#$%$nci#$%$l hit from closing the ret#$%$il ops, so they're digging the hole deeper by exp#$%$nding.
    My bet is the resolution to the debt problem will be cured by them doing #$%$n equity sw#$%$p th#$%$t'll virtu#$%$lly wipe out the common holders. Who re#$%$lly knows wh#$%$t cures #$%$re built into those existing #$%$greements, m#$%$ybe it's #$%$lre#$%$dy #$%$ done de#$%$l.
    Of course, unless the lenders h#$%$ve #$%$ s#$%$tisf#$%$ctory cure in pl#$%$ce, it'll now be #$%$ who blinks first scen#$%$rio. If the lenders force them into b#$%$nkruptcy they'll get squ#$%$t so equity seems the most likely solution, followed by c#$%$ving #$%$nd t#$%$king #$%$ h#$%$ircut.
    St#$%$y tuned.

  • loclac by loclac Nov 14, 2014 1:29 PM Flag

    Personally. I've never read a cc transcript that didn't have a Q&A. Must be afraid Santa won't come if they get caught lying.

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