Check Reuters this morning. With words/phrases like "contingent" and "not yet set", sounds preliminary. I guess we'll find out in the coming days.
Look, you need to let that go. Again, the response will just lead to a different non sequitur. DHT will likely pay for a while but just remember that it was above 200 dollars a share at one point, now it's 5.xx and has flatlined since 2012 when they had a 1:12 reverse split (big ouch for the long term shareholders there). But he IS right - CPLP cut, although their more conservative nature is likely why they are still here IMO. Really can't say I ever expect 20 or 30 out of them again (container ship economics would have to do a 180), but if they get back to 8-10, be okay by me. Although... nothing in assured.
By no means am I suggesting that you buy more CPLP. I'm just pointing out that rates are at historic lows and will not remain there forever.
Certainly not a buy and hold forever, but if you think rates are going to stay low for an extended period of time, then go for it. Not an overstatement to say that rates are already at historic lows, so make sure you stay flexible when picking up those nickels in front of the steamroller (ha, in this case probably quarters with a 19% yield). And keep your axe handy to chop off your foot in case it gets caught and be prepared to run like .... when rates start going up.
I was being facetious. Someone tells me the market has "clarify" and I'm thinking, "Well, okay not yet, but nice try anyway." Still a few unanswered questions here.
If the preferred works like preferreds in the US, I believe to start cutting the preferred dividend, distribution on the common would have to be eliminated.... I think.
David - Wouldn't eliminate the distribution completely, but 15 cents/qtr still leaves you at about a 15% yield. You have to pay something though and I do believe that it is oversold at this point so, 15 cents is about right for me and I'd use the rest for a smattering of debt reduction and buybacks. Bigger bang buying back units at this price. Pay a bigger dividend later but again, have to pay something. Other than that, I agree with your post.
And by the way, YOU are 100% correct about the distribution announcement being late. Last year, the distribution was announced a week prior to the actual earnings release. This year, it would appear it will be announced WITH earnings. I do not know how someone can misinterpret this, but so be it. I think the size of the distribution is probably maintained this quarter, but in the future will be dependent on the HMM negotiations (duh). And I do anticipate news on the HMM negotiations tomorrow and how it impacts distribution. Now, if I’m CPLP and HMM is asking me to take a haircut, the HMM debt-holders had better be taking a haircut as well. If not, then forget it… not interested in negotiating at that point.
Here's what I would say: Earnings are Tuesday before the bell. Whatever the price closes at on Monday, I don't think that the price will be anywhere near that Tuesday AFTER the bell. Now, which direction will it be? Longer term -60+% off the 52-week high and more longer term yet due to financial crises imo, but +50% off the low and +12%-ish over the past few weeks so shorter-term some have considered it worth buying. Volume was been super-heavy on the way down and I would say that the sellers were washed out. I was one of the buyers and think that this has over-corrected. Are there concerns? Sure. Anything that will take the company under? I don't think so. Honestly, for new money, if you really feel like you want to get in, but half now and half when the dust has settled after the earnings release and CC. If you want to roll the dice, buy what you want on Monday. The price movements are going to be driven quite a bit by headlines so probably not a smooth ride imo but again, I have money here at a 3.36 average and I'll ride for a while. Your mileage may vary.
Per the Nasdaq site, there just aren't that many shares short. On 3/31, it was about 1.2 million. Ha, regardless of what it is, I'd hate to have to cough up that distribution. That would kind of hurt.
Totally agree with the speculation in your second paragraph. No, I don't think the message would be that bad at all. Take some of the cash pay down debt, take another portion and buyback some shares. We don't pay taxes on share buybacks.
So when you say "even with this nice supply, oil should still be between 60 and 70", then why do you believe it has traded so low? What is the cause? Why such a fluctuation from "equilibrium"?
I was only pointing out the results of the Doha meetings in the context of your "It will just take longer without an oil price rally" quote. If you believe your quote that it will take longer without an oil price rally, then based on the Doha meetings, overproduction will continue (it was going to anyway) and oil's price could get hit pretty good tomorrow.
"It will just take longer without an oil price rally."
If you believe that that's what's required, based on the outcome of the Doha meetings, you will have longer to wait.
When the dates have fallen on a weekday, earnings and distribution announcements have been 30rd and 23rd respectively. With those dates falling on the weekend this, the last time the calendar fell like this, distribution was 4/21 and earnings was not until 5/5. You can see this on the investor relations page of their website.
I had posted something but Yahoo ate it. I will later. It will fold in with your banks idea but ha, I can say probably not for everyone. Let's just say there are candidates out there trading around tangible book or cheaper. Thinly traded though.