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you are incorrect wondervalley. Your messiah is not a touchy feely person. If your jesus is god, then you better scrutinize the Tanakh a little closer. The coming world of the messiah is not about a bunch of feel good sensations. It is all about Torah., and you gentiles will learn from us jews. Not the other way around. All the laws of torah will be in effect, not just a select few.

because the Patriot Act was already written before 911. They just needed an excuse to roll it out on the American public. The NWO people have an agenda and the turmoil in the M.E. is part of their picture they have created. Think of all the liberties that are being lost because of the P.A. both political parties are in on this

the psalmist speaking this was David. He was speaking of himself. Don't try to pull scripture out of context to suit your needs.

why do you think I am stupid? do you study with knowledgable rabbis? did your Dad? do you study the hebrew root for the words that make up your bible? or do you merely accept the KJV as infallible? I do not believe there were a jesus. However if he did exist, he was an orthodox jewish rabbi. According to your bible he is the coming messiah and will rule YOU with a rod of iron. The laws of Torah worldwide will begin. You hate the Torah now, wondervalley. I post Torah view for all to question me and almost all disagree with me. That's ok. You will find out he is not a touch feely coming messiah. You will not be waving your hands in the air and shouting praises and all that nonsense.

I will weigh in again on the s300. There are numerous versions that Russia has. My guess is they will not use the most sofisicated(?) version because they are well aware the EU, US and Israeli intelligence would like to monitor its true capabilities. I just pulled down a small online statement from the Russian head of missiles and he says the line has been drawn. Russia will not let the US do a no fly zone like they did in Libya. If so, he said expect many star spangled coffins. My guess is China also has shifted missiles towards the ME. They realize the big game is over oil and natural gas at the Caspian Sea basin. Putin has said he will not allow west domination of it. He will work with them for splitting that pie, otherwise no deal.

I posted here several weeks ago about a live broadcast Fallen and I watched, and Assad said that Russia and China will mass troops to defend him. I watched and RT show and Putin is bringing troops south, into southern Russia. It may come down to a bluff on all sides or things could slip up and a terrible military exchange will follow. Putin is not stupid. He was a KGB Colonel perhaps to pray to peace would be the proper thing otherwise many innocents may die..... the west will find out that Russia is not easy to push around once the Bear becomes angry

TSEM is one I will look into. It is 80% of book value and has mfg. in USA, Israel and Japan. MTLK is under a $1 and trades at 42% book. I just typed in NICE and is pricier then I prefer.

if Israel were smart, they would do precisely this. I applaud them for exporting ZERO natural gas. I say take care of Israel first and do not let the greed of making money over rule your common sense. Israel needs to remember at all times just exactly where they reside on the world geography map AND who their neighbors are. They never should put themselves in a position to import from the arabs ANYTHING, aka nada

some of those stocks I looked up no longer are traded or are big $$. ZN is a dog. I should never have put money into this several years back. It has no assets, no wells and no money and their drilling rights total less then 350 square kilo. or roughly 18 miles by 18 miles.

I used to own WNR. I visited their refinery when in New Mexico. I sold and made some $$ but sure wish I had held. I bought at $4---now it is $30+ and paying a dividend. Tough to figure

another smaller company is MTLK. price to book is 50%. several years ago I invested in Blue Square Israel and then bailed. unsure what happened to it. I lost $$.

I will do that. GNE seems like a solid company. and pays a small dividend with (real) operations !! in Colorado and Israel.

true enough. however, I asked---Israeli based-- but since you responded. do you know how I could research all Israel companies that are public traded on NYSE,AMEX or NASDAQ? I have no idea

I wonder if there are other Israeli based oil/ng companies that are traded? I like GNE but it is high now.

I guess what set me off about Zion Oil is at near the end of the yr. I searched a stock that I had forgotten about. It was ZN. I go to finance, and lo and behold, there are numerous jesus this and jesus that postings. I said to myself that it wasn't right. So I started to counter them. My original intent was to just check ZN's price---it has been a loser for me. If you recall, several times I have asked others to stop the jesus stuff and I will cease. Well that lasts for several days, then I check ZN and ta da more jesus craziness. I would prefer only talk about ZN or other small oil related stocks.

in my life, I have seen very few people who call themselves christians really be as they claim. As I have stated on this board, I have been in churches for 35 years watching and looking. studying them. I currently chat, with Fallen, to 2 Jeh.Witnesses. I also am aware that not all jewish people are above board. Some love money. They know what God requires---its in their being---but money and things it buys pull them. I study with rabbis. what does that tell you? the drawback to my christian exposure is these rabbis can feel and sense I know much of christian ways. That is a + and a -. when the rabbis rebuked me over my Sodom comments, they realized to my embarrassement that I had spoken a christian belief to them. That was a uneasy feeling I felt. Sodom wasn't destroyed because of homosexuality but rather the Ez.16:49 facts were the true answer. I slipped around them, now I speak less !! and some of them smile because they sense I want to give an opinion but realize that I am one sentence away from another rebuke !

I read your response but did you address my questions? I am well aware some forms of christianity change people for the better. I have also seen Islam change numerous lives for the better. Having said that, how do you know this was a holy spirit and not a deceiving spirit? after all, christians believe in a devil and fallen angels. and claim the devil is actually an angel of light, correct? so by that reckoning, why wouldn't this devil come and deceive you? He is a light giver, correct? Why wouldn't God allow him to enter your life to fool you? after all you are then following the teachings of a man(jesus) instead of God---even if you don't think so, correct? the devil could play along with you and let your life change for the better, knowing that ultimately you are damned... my life is non alcholic,non drugs, etc. I need no man or mediator. I think you should seek the God of Moses, as I do. The God of Moses is my saviour. I call him HaShem. my friend, Fallen, is a moslem. He calls the God of Moses, Allah,,, and he isn't a drunk or druggie, etc. p.s why didn't you go directly to God? the Torah states God prefers personal repentance over the blood of animals or grain offerings

In my humble opinion this is an excellent post, nobeer. I especially took note of the last paragraph

a subset of Matt. 24:14? you need to clarify that, because as I am typing this I have KJV open to your verse. ok, then how do you relate that to Mark 9:1?--Verily I say unto you, that there shall be some that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power." racrocker, I will search for that scripture about his disciples traveling throughtout Israel. we are not concerned about Jacob's trouble. I suppose if things really deteriorate I may ask the rabbis for their opinion.