These message boards are dying. Where are you hanging out...stocktwits...other? I need some laughs that you always provided. There is guppies on stocktwits...only difference is they provide nice charts.
Its OK Kelly...have 2 daughters and 3 grand daughters. Trying to teach them how to make money and not work your butt off for years and not play the game by letting someone else invest your money. Or...I tell my daughters to never ever trust anybody telling you what to do with your money, Make your own decisions an then you have no regret or blame but your self.
Here we are...many posts here dishing and pumping....analogies of earnings and pumping management and slamming. If you have a long term view of company..buy shares and trade ups and downs and hold a core position. My gosh....play the game. It has been to easy. We are not married to this stock
I agree...but as a retail investor learning the hard way...play the game. If you are retail and have suffered through the debacle of the past 5 years,,,you play the game. Unless you are invested in a quiet company..old time metrics of reasons to invest do not matter any more. To many fuzzy accounting methods do not tell the story. I refuse to be data dependent any more....common sense and trade around a core position. Never go all in on one stock.
Thanks Ray...you just proved why any retail investor should never go on a yahoo message board and listen to spammers. Stretching yourself to thin by spamming on other boards...or just old age setting in?
Some interesting numbers to date on Q2
I included the projected production for the quarter. I used the net revenue number ($0.40) for production revenues - costs for ethanol and co-products that Neil brought up today at the Wedbush conference, as a reasonably achievable expectation for the current quarter. The warrant revenue is up until May 8 for the quarter, but also includes the additional warrants to be exercised and sold as per the latest prospectus). I did not account for any additional warrant exercises during balance of the quarter beyond those in the prospectus.
Now we just have to wait and see how the crush margins continue to perform, and what non-cash write-downs (or at today's share price, non-cash credits) will be. Suffice to say, if the share price stays significantly below last quarter, this quarter has the potential to blow the socks off last quarter. Even if the share price matches last quarter the numbers are on track to be stellar.
Revenues from warrants to date:
(includes those accounted for in latest prospectus)
Revenue from April offering:
Revenue from ethanol production & co-products
6 weeks @ 160M gal/yr production 18.46MG
7 weeks @ 200M gal/yr production 26.92MG
45.4MG x $0.40
Got to admit...Kelly should use only one screen name. But...give me a break...she is doing the DD for all of us. Give her credit...she at least was always bull and not jumping fence. You can learn from people here who are doing the research for you. Some always bull...some go back and forth. The only posts you need to beware of are the constant bashers.
I am lucky that I have company cell phone and TD AP. I am all over the plant...my job is to schedule the entire plant...raw material...scheduling...shipping...communicate with GM, Ford, Tesla. I am always moving, so constantly with cell phone and checking investments when I can and setting Limit, Market orders when I can. I still want to retire and do this full time. Turning 52 July 8 and getting closer.
You are missing the point. Do you actually buy or sell stocks based upon yahoo message board posts. The most informative posters here are Elahens and Kelly. I like to google the information they give for confirmation, but they usually are spot on in the information they post. I have been in PEIX for a long time. And...I am very skeptical when it comes to information.
For what it is worth...look at other stocks you own and their SEC filings. I think you will see similar filings for most companies. One of these days...when I retire...I will educate myself as to the implications. It is like trying to navigate through our legal system without a lawyer. We need simplification of our regulatory agencies and the laws...but good luck with that. It is justification for them to exist.
Short sellers are essentially traders that are hoping a company will experience problems
(such as product delays or the inability to raise financing) so they may profit from the
setbacks. These traders or trading machines make the most if a company struggles and
goes out of business, and some short sellers actively work to make that happen.
Aggressive shorters, and short selling pools, will sometimes hire stock “bashers”, people
paid to post negative articles on blogs and message boards. Their goal is to put out
negative news on a company or its products in an effort to cause the company problems
and insure the stock declines so their negative bets pay off. Others will put up “flash
orders” advertising to sell a large number of shares in an effort to drive down the price.
Thus entrepreneurial companies not only need to fight the battles of developing new
products and markets, they have to stave off the short sellers in the meantime. This
growing culture of betting against a company for the sake of short-term trading profits
(regardless of economic consequences) has negative economic repercussions. This trend
has been fostered by:
• Technology that allows trader anonymity without consequence. Short sellers, like
private hedge funds do not have to disclose their negative bets, whereas mutual
funds and most institutions are required to publicly report their holdings.
• Brokerage firm procedures that make it easy for short sellers to borrow stock
without informing the shareowner of the transaction or potential consequences.
• Internet forums and message boards that allow traders to quickly publish negative
comments about a company, thus forcing down prices.
All of these boards place to much emphasis on market makers. We invest in a company we believe in and do some DD. Although it is obvious that Hedge Funds and others manipulate through press..IE...CNBC...we can still trade as retail with some education and experience. My point...does anyone on this board actually buy shares based upon posts on this board
I respect your opinion, but learned my lesson long ago by being married to a stock and holding a long position and fighting the price swings. I hold this company long...as I do with other companies..but why not trade around your position to protect yourself. If you are in multiple stocks..look at the charts. They do not move in one direction...and there are to many retail and pro investors that trade on direction of stocks based upon charts. I am trying not to trade based upon emotion to a stock. It is hard to do when you see what a company can do. I have owned some stocks that I let go of way to early and it has #$%$ me off. On the other hand...I have taken profits on others before they tanked. Buying some protection when you are long is the way to go...even if owning 1000 shares and going short 500 shares when you are up......or using options to protect your long position.
It would make it a whole lot easier if everyone would use one screen name. Surely everyone here knows that their are paid posters who get paid for anyone commenting to their posts. What an unethical system we have with investing when we have the greatest system of economical redistribution of wealth that has ever been created in any system of govt in the history of mankind. Leave it up to a few to ruin something that can benefit so many. No more soap box.
We were vacationing in Florida the Friday night of Q 4 earnings. My wife kept telling me to put my cell phone down and enjoy vacation. After report, I told her that my shares of PEIX just paid for our entire vacation and then some.
I do not post here at all, but appreciate your posts. This message board used to have some very good insight regarding this company...but they are long gone. Thanks
The bottom is in. Now begins a grinding upward movement into earnings. You had better put a stop market on your short position.
We do not own enough shares to oust management. We have a voice through voting proxies, but unless you are a major holder...you have no voice. Good example...I owned CLWR through same situation as PEIX....RS.... I held and bought more. Same CLWR Yahoo board as PEIX board...active retail and complaints...but management held on and finally big funds were buying. It was only their voice that made the difference in S paying up through Softbank for what the shares were actually worth. This company reminds me of CLWR with the bigger players buying now. Not saying the same thing will happen as it did with CLWR...but it keeps me invested.
Its what I am saying...nothing wrong with passion with Kelly being so bullish...but it is up to you if you choose to take the information given and post something to dispute. Otherwise...what is your complaint. The reality is...this stock is up from 2.50 in December to now 13
bucks. I have seen Kelly post negative about the multiple SEC filings for the same events.