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Straightforward yes but not free in power usage, see Jaguar for that. Intel had a strict power budget for Bay Trail which is basically the same as Clover Trail and not only the gpu was curtailed to fit but more importantly hyperthreading had to be dropped all together which is a bigger loss. Still Bay Trail's gpu is going to be in iPad4's class so really that is quite a jump anyway from Clovertrail+ and remember that some games are cpu rather than gpu dependent. At 14nm and 10nm these things can be looked at again but I think you may be placing too much store on this as Intel does not have to win every benchmark, it just needs to produce a good well balanced chip and it appears to have done so.

It was the NVIDIA gpu licensing threat that caused it today, received an analyst warning about it.

OEMs only care about extra gpu capability if it allows them to use higher resolution screens as that allows them to charge more. I don't think the dedicated gaming tablet base is a big one ;-). As always the customers will choose the winners and there will plenty of Bay Trails and Haswell Ys in the tablet space to choose from. Intel has come a long way in a very short time from when it was actively shunned by OEMs in the tablet space with the 45nm efforts.

I respectfully disagree, I believe if someone is that concerned with mobile gpu capability they would get a notebook not a tablet. What's important to tablet users is cpu performance and how long it can be maintained and Silvermont will shine in that regard. Remember the poor gpu of Clovertrail did not stop it being a hit as neither did the relatively poor gpus of Android phones vs iPhones. Gpu prowess is a bonus in phones/tablets not a necessity IMO.

I am pleased they are having a great time at yet another annual conference subsidized by Astrotech shareholders. How about they actually sell some product instead though, report it loudly in a PR and justify their jobs properly because so far in 8 years they have just been carried on the backs of someone else's money producing a product for which there does not appear to be much demand although I would love to be proved wrong eventually.

I predicted today's resistance point of 15.48 exactly to the nearest cent a day before it happened so the slide rule works just fine as AMD don't make it ;-).

' The 146 WMA oscillated over the following years between resistance and support and is now support at 14.37 and arcing up. The 310 WMA is now 15.48 and arcing down. I don't know which will prove stronger when these two meet but they will meet in 6-9 months and the stock will either go up or down whichever proves stronger.'

15.48 was kissed today which is a few months earlier than I expected but of course the licensing news set off new buying. Proved though that it is one of the two major resistances that need taking out as I surmised ...

It will also be no threat to the lowest power Haswells in any facet of performance.

Indeed it can be taken with the same pinch of salt that those unconstrained Tegra 4 reference tablet benchmarks can be taken although I suspect it should throttle less than A15 does. However I think you will only be allowed to get either max cpu or max gpu performance out of it but not both at the same time. Silvermont should beat it on cpu but gpu will be tougher and it may lose more than it wins in that dept but we shall soon see.

'This is worrisome for other ARM vendors as Qualcomm now has a chip that rivals A15/A6 performance. '

Fixed that for you ;-)

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Gpu improved more than Cpu but both still behind Haswell and Jaguar. It's going to be best of the rest after Silvermont.

It carries some risk as licensers get considerably less money than actually building the IP. If licensed technology was to take away business from in house built technology it would be a problem. It will need careful controlling.

anandtechdotcom/show/7082/snapdragon-800-msm8974-performance-preview-qualcomm-mobile-development-tablet

p.s. thanks for the DD !

They still have to be conceptually told what to design and remember the Spacehab modules themselves first started as powerpoint slides. Hey Jim, how much company do you actually want for your ~$15m lol.

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To understand what's happening you have to look at a 3-year chart and some long term moving averages. Back in early 2011 the stock broke out and first the 146 WMA (weekly moving average) became support followed by the 358 WMA and then finally the 310 WMA. Then the stock crashed 6 months later and the latter two became resistance while the 146 WMA oscillated over the following years between resistance and support and is now support at 14.37 and arcing up. The 310 WMA is now 15.48 and arcing down. I don't know which will prove stronger when these two meet but they will meet in 6-9 months and the stock will either go up or down whichever proves stronger. The 358 WMA at 16.35 is the highest MA resistance and is gently dropping, eventually overcome that and early 2011 stock prices are possible again. All the stock indicators say there is more buying than selling but if you have dropping MAs that does not always show up in price rises as Asks are lowered under that situation.

No the whole design was theirs as was the Sea Launch facilities they had built. Get a clue, look up the difference between design and construction.

They had a 5m facility built at VAFB under their direction which included a high bay.

Not to mention the new 12-core 24-thread Ivy Bridge EP which will be tough to beat on performance/watt.