Why are they trying to destroy share holders? There must be some devious angle I am not seeing. ARYC is going for broke, continuing to dangle that carrot in front of us to 000's.
I think it is time to inquire w/ SEC and attorney to see if shareholders have any legal recourse. Probably not, but it would be satisfying to at least cause additional hassle/expense/time for the management team that has destroyed us.
Looks like the end of the line is coming, and end of our worrying about this pathetic stock and squandered potential...
I would buy American again if they offered what I want: Manual transmission compact/midsize wagon. Diesel or gas, don't care so much about that anymore. We have one American vehicle (Wife's Jeep), we would not have bought it if we were forced to have an auto trans.
I think it was just the automatics? yet the entire line up took the hit. That 87 5000 TQ was a damn nice car. I also like the 4000Q's (sold mine recently).
VW will have hell to pay, but it will blow over. They most certainly will survive!
A company that needs to resort to such desperate measures, and has virtually no chance at being able to stand on its own feet has limited options. Buy out really is the only hope here at this point. But where are the buyers if they have such great tech/patent portfolio?
I think they have destroyed all credibility by the way they have handled things. They are now forced to deal with the worst financing terms ever, no reputable venture will touch these guys...
We're toast. Yet I continue to endure this systematic destruction of share holders. I'm surprised they have been able to avoid SEC investigation for as long as they have. They have always operated on the edge of legality, with zero regard for long term shareholders. The Div will be meaningless, I promise IMO.
More shell games to come....
Could this really be it? After nearly 7yrs of desperately hanging in here?
I need .0120 to get out of here whole, but would be nice to make a little something.
I invested here originally for OvaDX, and would be very happy with FDA approval. I never liked the idea of AVDX spin off, and still don't. But if it all works out in the end who cares.
Not counting my chickens before they hatch, still extremely skeptical and worried for (common) share holders.
Not many better opportunities long term IMO. For those who wish to initiate a position, buy now please.
With so many stocks at multi year lows, its amazing the DOW still is where it is. I have plenty of EPD already, but considering adding here. Patience required, but we'll be fine.
The "expected" "target" was anticipated for September. Clock is ticking....
I pity all the new folks in this stock who do not understand what they are in for. Be skeptical of anything they say. Their track record speaks volume. One thing you can be sure of though IMO is a massive reverse split is coming.
We that have been here 6 yrs know better then to believe the div is coming at all.
Where's Easy these days? Still buying?
10-40X NOX just to be clear. Still much cleaner then my 03, and worlds apart from those old MB's, etc still on the road legally.
I agree they will pay heavily, but realistically not to the extend you expect.
There will be more pain, but yes this will pass.
NOX is the problem here, not 10-40X overall emissions. The EPA assesses pollution by the Gallon, and does not take into account the mileage a car gets (in this case 45 MPG). When you look at the big picture, those driving large SUV's are far bigger pollution offenders then those driving Tdi's. I think the reality will sink in and in a years time this will be off the radar. While it was an egregious and deceptive act, I am not sure how long people will care.
I'm sure they wished they used Urea from 2009, as others have had to do.
I would not be surprised to find other means of cheating out there, by any number of MFG's (gas or diesel), which may water this down a little.
I'll still buy a VW, thinking new Gti when I retire my 235K Tdi. No more diesels for me, does not pencil out like it used to anyway. Especially now.
Long term buyers (1-2yrs) at this level will be fine IMO.
What is propping it up?
With out knowing what is really going on with share structure, its nothing but a blind gamble.
Miserable action here....
Blah Blah Blah, keep rationalizing it. Do I sense desperation?
This is a miserable stock, until we have some transparency do not trust anything about "them".
I am not short this, but clearly shorts have been in the drivers seat here since that massive P&D 4/15. You and Lester have been wrong, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future.
Miserable action here, glad I dumped last week. Unfortunately my wife still has some shares.
I'm out with small profit on remaining shares. Over all up 200+% since April, best trade of the year, not looking back.
Wife still holds 25K in her IRA.