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msprings38 33 posts  |  Last Activity: 11 hours ago Member since: May 17, 2012
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  • Reply to

    News on the Grassy Narrows case

    by user1256 Jul 11, 2014 10:12 AM
    msprings38 msprings38 11 hours ago Flag

    This is good news for sure.

  • msprings38 msprings38 11 hours ago Flag


  • Reply to

    Why I am a Rubicon Investor

    by goldmetalmania Jul 2, 2014 12:36 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 15 hours ago Flag

    I think it is important to get the truth out when people are posting things that obviously are not genuine. I am an owner of RBY stock 3k shares presently.
    RBY was up 12 cents today!!! 8.33 percent move up in one day!!!!
    It is up over 50 percent in the last month.
    The price of gold is also moving higher which will continue to benefit RBY
    more and more. Hold onto your shares and you will be pleasantly surprised as
    we head into production!!!!

  • Reply to

    Rubicon Break up!!

    by moback466 Jul 3, 2014 8:29 AM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 9, 2014 10:45 PM Flag

    What the hell are you talking about...if we got our money out of F2??? Do you think people embark on something of this size and magnitude to only get their money back out of it???
    That is not why this company was started. It is worth far more than the current price and the BOD will never sell out at these prices. What you are proposing is insane.
    Its absurd to think they would agree to lose money after having done all of the work that
    they have. Ridiculous. Do you even realized what you are suggesting?

  • msprings38 msprings38 Jul 9, 2014 5:08 PM Flag

    You seem to think that you can just push their production dates back to whenever you want to
    as suits you purpose for posting. Its quite laughable actually. You also seem to think you know more than their accountants. That is hilarious!!!
    Why do you ignore the fact that they are up 50 percent in the last month? That seems to escape
    your notice? Are you blind to facts and hung up on imagining things that you can try to betray to others as being dangerous pitfalls that RBY needs to avoid? Why make things up constantly only to be proven wrong and look like a fool??? What are you getting out of this?? Other than egg on your face that is? LMAO!!!

  • Reply to

    Rubicon Break up!!

    by moback466 Jul 3, 2014 8:29 AM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 9, 2014 4:56 PM Flag

    Rubicon is not doing anything of the sort and you are a liar.
    The company is not for sale. Nobody is buying F2 because it is not for sale.
    They are going to be producing gold in 10 months. Why would you say something so ignorant?
    Why don't you go somewhere else and spread you lies. You suck.
    No proof as usual. Just #$%$....... typical of a #$%$ poster with no stock and no brains.

  • msprings38 msprings38 Jul 9, 2014 1:41 PM Flag

    I don't know that the 2nd and 3rd appeals have been scheduled yet. Once the oral arguments are heard, it will likely be about 3 months before a decision is issued I believe. Then Google will have to pay in a given time frame set by the court. So perhaps be the end of the year.

  • Reply to

    Good Deal IMO

    by pioneerrubi Jul 4, 2014 1:39 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 9, 2014 9:26 AM Flag

    more nonsense from the resident idiot......

  • Reply to

    Good Deal IMO

    by pioneerrubi Jul 4, 2014 1:39 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 7, 2014 2:33 PM Flag

    If you looked at the market today you would see most stocks are down. But, Rubicon is up 3 cents currently. You have been saying its going down yet it continues to rise. All anyone has to do is look at the chart and they can see. You are wrong but keep shooting your mouth off making yourself look stupid.
    A majority of the board here thinks you are a clown who knows nothing but keeps posting looking foolish. You should give up and go to another board and start over. LMAO!!!

  • Reply to

    Good Deal IMO

    by pioneerrubi Jul 4, 2014 1:39 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 5, 2014 1:44 AM Flag

    Nobody is laughing at him, they are laughing at you. you have been saying #$%$ for over a year here and nothing makes sense. RBY is getting closer and closer to mining gold and have the money they need to do that secured. Now they have even more to further development of their gold rich properties. Everything is progressing nicely and you are full of #$%$. They are about to open one of the best operating mines in North America. Are you really that clueless to what this will mean to this company? Are you that dense?
    I cannot believe the #$%$ you spew. It is absurd. ridiculous.
    If you believe what you say, then short this stock and I will laugh at you as you lose your #$%$ and I get rich!!! HA! HA!

  • Reply to

    Why I am a Rubicon Investor

    by goldmetalmania Jul 2, 2014 12:36 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 5, 2014 1:32 AM Flag

    I agree the potential for this company is enormous. God Corp took ton after ton of gold out of the ground nearby. RBY owns all of the property for many miles in the area. Their potential is incredible when you consider how rich that area helped make GC.
    Gold is most certainly going to continue to rise. Interest rates are heading up. QE is over in the USA and inflation is coming on strong. The El NINO effect will impact many businesses and create cash looking for investment elsewhere and gold will be an obvious choice for many.
    Now with all of these factors pushing up the price of gold, Rubicon will be a money making machine. They will far exceed expectations and valuations will be adjusted much higher. This could be a ten dollar stock next year if things go well. Another possibility that needs to be considered should be that the estimates were to conservative and the yields are higher than anticipated. If they find 9 grams per ton, then their earnings will be fully 12 percent higher than what they have stated are their expectations. That would be all profits and much more when coupled with a high gold price.
    Imagine what an enormous amount of money they would make should gold go back to 1800 or even higher than that. The stock will go crazy if this were to happen. Political unrest in other parts of the world has been flaring up repeatedly. Risks are largely eliminated in Canada. A stable government that favors business has the makings of a good partnership. comparatively it is a excellent place to be doing business considering the costs and risks elsewhere.
    Lastly, and perhaps most important, they know there is allot of gold in Red Lake. Finding new large deposits of gold is very difficult for corporations to accomplish anymore. Many have tried and failed to do so. Rubicon owns some great property and lots of it. They could be setting on many billions of dollars into the future.
    How high gold will go is uncertain right now. I bet it is much higher in a year.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    News - more dilution

    by stock_canines Jul 3, 2014 4:59 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 5, 2014 1:03 AM Flag

    But the more they can establish what they have for resources, the more valuable they become. If they want to continue to develop and grow, then they need to multitask which is what they are in fact doing.
    Their demonstrating those abilities is encouraging to see. It is also smart. Otherwise if they were to wait until they were producing from Red Lake, they would be pushing out the window on production of other resources they might find. They have taken initiative to
    continue to progress and make things happen for this company. Sitting on their hands waiting is not in the play book and this makes me very happy as an investor.

  • msprings38 msprings38 Jul 5, 2014 12:49 AM Flag

    FYI the supreme court did not rule on laches specifically. They did rule on the Petrella case which had to do with Copyrights. There is a strong likelihood that the CAFC will use that ruling to determine that the laches ruling made by Judge Jackson was in fact not correct and that Patents should be given the same treatment as Copyrights were in the Petrella case. Due to the fact that set time limits exist for both patents and copyrights under federal
    law, it is probably reasonable to assume that the rules would apply to both the same. If so, then the appeals court will rule in favor of Vringo netting them another 600 million dollars.
    If they also correct the Jury error in calculating damages its another 100 million dollars
    and then there is the 1.2 billion awarded in the case by Judge Jackson on top of that.
    With interest it could be over 2 billion in total.

  • Reply to

    another small step taken by vrng.

    by idccnokia2006 Jul 2, 2014 1:05 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 2, 2014 2:38 PM Flag

    This is not a small step. It is huge. It negates Google's attempts to have the patents declared invalid. They have tried and failed twice on both patents involved. This is monumental not small.
    Vringo should not negotiate with crooked thieves. They deserve the 2 billion dollars. The patents are worth
    far more than that to Google. No reason to give them any further discount. Especially after their dirty tactics
    and lies during the trial and afterward. What you are suggesting would be stupid to do at this point in time.
    Having faced down all of the challenges and risk, Vringo deserves to get every penny. Google should have to pay a fair price for what they have stolen. They also deserve to have to pay a premium for willful infringement. Speeding up resolution is not worth hundreds of millions of dollars to do so.
    That kind of money is not easy to come by and waiting for it is well worth the time. Cases with this kind
    of income potential don't come along every day. To just throw that much money away would make little
    sense. Settlement would

  • Reply to

    Poker Time.

    by goldfinder101 Jul 2, 2014 12:18 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 2, 2014 2:23 PM Flag

    things? just what are these mythical things you speak of? If they are real, then say what they are.

    Take a look at the two week chart and that will tell you what the market is thinking........V will continue to go up from here. Much much higher. Just wait and see.

  • Reply to

    LEI making me hugee money

    by allixpetaevcnh May 23, 2014 4:47 AM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 1, 2014 1:55 AM Flag


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    by stock_canines Jun 24, 2014 11:36 AM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 1, 2014 1:25 AM Flag

    Pretty dumb move to sell now. Nothing suggests that gold is going to go down further. Everything points to it going higher now. Higher interests rates are appearing now. Inflation is on the rise and their is more political unrest everyday. All of these things contribute to higher gold prices. Your thesis that gold is going to fall is lacking any support at all.

  • Reply to

    Gold moving up again.

    by dddurbin123 Jun 30, 2014 1:59 PM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 1, 2014 1:15 AM Flag

    I have been telling people this for weeks now. This is what is going to happen. Gold is going to continue to rise throughout the year and will be back to 1600 before you know it. inflation is coming and interest rates are starting to rise as well. QE in the USA is coming to an end and this will make interest rates begin to climb higher even faster. Banks will not be getting free loans from the government any longer and they will have to loan money out to make money. They will only do this at higher rates to ensure they continue to make money.

    bullion will rise and so will the miners. The higher gold goes the more profitable the mines become and the PPS will reflect this. RBY in particular will do extremely well. Bringing their mine into production in the midst of this situation will be highly advantageous for them.

  • msprings38 msprings38 Jul 1, 2014 1:01 AM Flag

    Vringo would have to get an injunction to stop the sales in Malaysia. I don't know if this option is available there or how likely it is that it would be granted. They also would have to consider how much this might cost them to do and how much the lawsuit there would be worth in total. It might not really be worth the trouble and costs involved. But, it likely is or the would not have filed there to begin with. Hopefully it is and they will do just that and in short order. Keeping the pressure on will be key to forcing them to settle on Vringo's terms.
    Filing on not only ZTE, but their business partners in these countries is also a smart idea. It creates another avenue of pressure on ZTE as it will impact their relationships with others who will hold ZTE responsible for putting them into the position of being named in the lawsuits along with ZTE.

  • Reply to

    VRNG versus ZTE

    by silverponyruns Jun 30, 2014 9:29 AM
    msprings38 msprings38 Jul 1, 2014 12:51 AM Flag

    Vringo stands to make much more money in judgments should things not be settled (potentially that is).
    Given the strength of their cases and the fact that the patents are being willfully infringed, they could be awarded much more than what FRAND terms would give to them. Judges could award higher amounts due to the fact that ZTE has ignored court orders and continues to infringe on the patents. Much like was done in the Google case with the 6.5 percent royalty Judge Jackson awarded to Vringo. You see Judges do not like liars and thieves and love to make an example of them. Especially when they are serial offenders and are deny their responsibility even though it is clear they are guilty. So don't think that Vringo is necessarily all for a cut
    rate settlement. They know that they will get paid well should they have to wait some of these actions out for a payday. It will be well worth it if they do. Vringo now has allot invested in these actions and they are not going to settle for a little bit after having had to file all of these suits and injunctions and actually had to post bonds to enforce the injunctions. Vringo has tens of millions invested in these cases now and will be looking to capitalize on them now in a big way. They have invested the time, work and money and are going to be looking to collect the fruits of their labors now. I don't care if it takes another three years!!!! I have patience and will wait if need be. But, it wont take that long. I exaggerate, it will be over long before that.
    So, what I am trying to point out is that settlement is not the greatest thing in the world that could happen now.
    But, if they do settle it will not be for pennies on the dollar. Not after having had to do all the hard work and incur all of the expenses that they have.

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