as long as the shares that are shorted are not naked, then ackman is within his rights. if there are shares naked shorted then those responsible for the naked shorting have a lot to answer for. but sec is a toothless tiger unless they are under a media limelight. jmho-bucko
if we do not hear from icahn, chapman, stiritz, soros, etc. before hlf opens tomorrow, expect another 5% drop at least tomorrow. jmho-bucko
40.00-looks like some shorts agree that it is time to get back under a rock.
the reason i sold my last 1k of hlf at 50.00 was becuase i found out that the monies i have in a variable annuity life policy is subject to large taxes if cashed in at this time. so, i sold my trading portfolio instead. never realizing that ackman and cohorts would be able to push hlf pps down so far so fast. jmho-bucko
ps-what really dissapoints me is not ackman, he is a ego maniac that deserves to be in jail. to me, it is icahn. i believed he really cared about hlf there he cared about hlf longs. i could not be more wrong. now ego comes into play. icahn has 5 board seats. imo. he cannot allow hlf to perish.,
i wondered why greenberg left cnbc h-qtrs for the west coast. was it a planned move??? surprised that cnbc has him back on the air. herb is nothing more than a bill ackman bootlicker. only time i ever heard herb go long on a stock was jcp. gee, mr. bill was a super long at the time.
hlf needs a great qtr. and the ftc needs to wrap up whatever changes are necessary, if any with hlf. for the ftc to not act is to aid a hedge fund shorting a corp. jmho-bucko
41.28-GOD!!! I HATE ACKMAN!!!
how much of a rebound in hlf pps would happen if and when icahn announces he has raised his hlf ownership to 25% ??? food for thought, hlf shorts. the pps is dropping too fast not to have naked shorting and all kinds of option bear trades happening. boy, if i was warren buffet, would i love to go long with hlf in the low to mid 30's. jmho-bucko
hlf, right now reminds me of einhorn and gmcr. in the end, gmcy pps soared but not till einhorn made a lot of claims, mostly false and also a lot of money. i want back into hlf but not yet and not this high. hopefully i am wrong and the pps starts rocketing up for all hlf longs but there is just too much fear and icahn is being way too quiet. jmho-bucko
hlf shorts are too confident. they had better not expect ackman to care about their short position. all hlf shorts should the disclaimer that ackman put out about covering for a reason or no reason, at anytime.when he announced his billion dollar bet. icahn , himself has more money than pershing ss. has, so beware #$%$ off icahn. if i were that confident with my short position i would still hedge with options at this pps. ackman is, you can bet. whether you are a hlf long of a hlf short, both ackman and icahn are NOT YOUR FRIEND(S)!!! YOU SHOULD NOT TRUST EITHER ONE OF THEM!!!-jmho bucko
icahn , if not hedged and if not selling hlf here (and i doubt he is) has so much money he will take hlf pvt. long before a massive selloff ensues. the whiplash will be brutal for those not hedged. hlf is not going bk and only missed last qtr. by a penny. would be interesting to know if soros, chapman, and stiritz are still as long as they were. jmho-bucko
ps-hlf is trading on emotion now. sure glad i sold out but i do plan on re-entering at low 30's.
as yogi berra said, IT'S NOT OVER TILL IT'S OVER!!! as i stated last week, i truly believe icahn and ackman made a backroom deal. ackman gets to cover his short and icahn gets to buy hlf at a super low pps. notice how you are not hearing a word from ackman, icahn or even cnbc these days. jmho-bucko
ps-i am thinking of starting a new hlf position at 33-35.00 range.
At this pps it is a #$%$ shoot. The lower hlf goes, the more risk/reward favors new hlf longs. Make sense? probably not. But at 33.00-35.00 pps range, i believe smart /large shorts will cover and move on. Jmho-bucko
I took the cash from selling my trading portfolio and made a lowball offer and ended up buying a new house. Closing is tuesday. I, then can take a home equity loan on the house and be ready to buy back hlf and if i am right and it drops to 33.00-35.00 range. If it does not, to me, it was a lessen learned. NEVER, EVER TRUST A HEDGE FUND HEAD!!!-bucko
Ps by the way, watch ackman cohorts and ackman himself prosper when ackman announces ge is no longer short hlf. They will be long when it happens. Jmho-bucko
i really believe ackman and icahn made a back room deal. Icahn allows ackman and cohorts to short hlf pps down to 33.00-35.00 pps and then cover allowing icahn to buy hlf at a bargain basement price. I know it sounds too simple but to me it adds up. Sold 1k at 67.00. 1k at 57.00 and the last 1k at 50.00. Made some money being long hlf but i stayed too long. Imo, you not only cannot trust ackman but the same goes for icahn. Jmho-bucko
i am not short bac but i did sell all of my trading stock last week. this obama, has this country on the wrong track and he is certainly no leader. couple that with the fact the economy is NOT doing well regardless of the statements made by the news media and certain congressional members and you have the makings of a major pullback. jmho-bucko