Cheers to you Ed! great post. still hanging in HUN & took some profits on some and am scallywaggin round over twtr board w/ the hlf hoodlums. pulled powder on the side as well. 2009 market was obvious. this one? feelin' a bit like wonderland...
Hope you're hanging well as well Daffy!
everyone ain't a loud rich hedge fundie like Bill Ackman. if he wants to shed 300 lbs, he lipos, uber-riche fat farms, hires chef, personal coach -- ackman is able to hire great smelling, nice talking, Ritz level staff ---if he gotta shed 300 lbs. chris christie-no one makes any issue he large cause they're all trying to kiss his butt - he got the GOOD fat whereas the 400 lb noname on a bus don't have the good fat. message is so fake about obesity - not in terms of health, in terms of wealth. rich people got the purty fat - poor people got the ugly fat. rich people advertise their fat good; reality: fat sucks. it's gross and needs to go-causes everyone to pay.
what about the other 500+++ million people globally - who are obese - who can't do what Ackman can to shed lardage? is this what stiritz sees?
Ackman should have donned a 300lb fat suit and a $20K net worth for a month or six - living in a 1 room basement in NYC on a $400 a week salary to arrive at a real solution for solving obesity instead of removing one of the few affordable things people ACTUALLY have TODAY to lose weight. support is key on breaking any bad habit -- hlf got TONS of support for folk on this journey. it's evidently working for many of them cause hlf is making money, expanding globally, etc.
obesity is real. Ackman's motive is greedy profit; zero plan to bring any solution to obesity epidemic; offer no clarity for mlm industry; and to shoot down something people enjoy/works for the ones using it.
Ackman comes to kill a goose he doesn't own, leave an empty space unfilled for the ones who do own that goose, and walk away w/ his pockets full killing their joy.
daff...man ya know this stuff draws me in. you'd think Ackman would have at least donned a fat suit for 1 whole day right? they have a old-person suit now. if Ack's motive pure he would have gone straight to FTC/SEC right? *** he didn't.**** zero vs. the epidemic. epic.
I'm around - yes still holding hun and hanging on the twitter $HLF board.
took an entertainment position in HLF to ride the train. lol, it's a riot.
Hedge fund manager Richard Perry, who runs Perry Capital, has filed his third-quarter 13F with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
During the quarter ended September 30, Perry snapped up a position in Herbalife. Perry held 2,632,138 million shares in the quarter.
from 0 hedge...
prosecutors ordered the seizure of a substantial batch of computer and telephone equipment from Apple's Italian HQ as part of an investigation into allegations of a one billion euro tax fraud. As L'Espresso reports, the allegations surround false representation of accounting records (EUR206mm in 2010 and EUR853mm in 2011) which were recorded by the Irish entity 'Apple Sales International' but, Italian authorities suggest were services rendered for business carried out in Italy. Beyond this investigation, it seems the growing tax divergences (and loopholes) that we have previously discussed (such as the Double Irish) are becoming a key focus for an increasingly cash-strapped European periphery (among others).
hmm. Ackman's thesis is kind of like one of those magazines you see at the grocery store.
loud, garish, accusatory, extreme -- but 40 years later, you're still seeing these same things...which votes to idea that as long as there's not duress in engaging in something - you can do it, not do it, sell it, not sell it, use it, refrain from it -- kind of "be free" from hoary intervention doing it even if it's got religious zeal or not. Right? or do we need more nanny state intervention---since it's working so well (/sarc)
it's your backyard. whaddaya want cause whatever happens not only rules herbalife/amway/nuskin/tupperware/et al -- but what you can do in your own backyard or home. Do you want Bill Ackman making this decision for you? cause right now you can do what you want... ... ...
if Ackman is legitimate, why is he not directing his efforts at the entire MLM Direct Marketing industry to rewrite the rules and crystallize transparency in direct sales versus targeting a scapegoat solely for his own profit? people who want herbalife should be able to have it. people who want to sell herbalife should be able to sell it. people who don't want it can walk away. Who wishes to give Ackman the reins to thier lives?
Settlement Date Short Interest Avg Daily Share Volume Days To Cover
10/15/2013 7,588,906 4,260,309 1.781304
9/30/2013 5,104,420 7,953,145 1.000000
9/13/2013 3,936,238 2,832,566 1.389637
Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/hun/short-interest#ixzz2j89RXuFj
ain't no one with GS on his shirt out here on the rig dude. GS that sissy at the shore bar?
Kudos to the HUN team! yee hah!
Sentiment: Strong Buy
everyone is guilty for any oil spill if he uses oil. and we all do. we learn, we clean up and move on hopefully smarter from events. but people milking the ordeal? so many "leaders" in our system are such creeps.
"...Four of the defendants are relatives of Alabama’s Secretary of Law Enforcement and Homeland Security, Spencer Collier. The state official wasn’t implicated in the alleged rip-off, according to his lawyer, Dennis Kinzley. “I just think these people were simply involved in the seafood industry or the water-related industry in that area and happened to be who was arrested in this case,” he added. Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley, who appointed Collier, backed his aide in a written statement, vowing to “continue to support Spencer Collier at this difficult time.”
wonder how much McDonald's buying heinz ketchup added to bottom line that's gone now w/ this?
these folk look healthy, they're having fun, avoiding diabetes AND (drum roll please) not waiting around for a charity handout from Ackman...or anyone. man, what is wrong with that? more power to them. Vida Pura!
carl can do whatever he wants. so can stiritz. so can soros. so can ackman. so in the world of folk being pretty much able to do whatever they want, who's WINNING?!?!?! lol...old sheen. hate to quote him but heh, sometimes it just fits. HLF needs to put out the Tiger Blood! flavor.