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netprophecy2 282 posts  |  Last Activity: 9 hours ago Member since: Sep 23, 1999
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  • netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 5, 2016 12:10 PM Flag

    isig's business is awful for shareholders. dead flat no growth dull. if you cannot find a better investment in the market, something is wrong with your stock selection skills.

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    billions in potential = NO SALES

    by needinfo117 May 4, 2016 2:35 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 4, 2016 2:54 PM Flag

    correction $3,000 and change in shares so far. insiders buying? nope, they have not, since they know how poorly things are being received. oh, plus there was a presentation today. i think some corporate shuffling is in order and soon. maybe they feel the chicken sales will be enough to pay their bloated compensation packages.

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    billions in potential = NO SALES

    by needinfo117 May 4, 2016 2:35 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 4, 2016 2:51 PM Flag

    yes, like chipotle this is a billion dollar recall that will rock the industry. pure traded $3,00 in shares today, despite having fda approval for just such applications for months. why is that? complete and total incompetence is the only possible explanation i can see. an utter failure of sales effort, marketing and PR. give it a few years, maybe someone will call their offices. truly an amazing thing to watch.

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    This is about food contact

    by needinfo117 Apr 29, 2016 8:09 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 4, 2016 1:11 AM Flag

    selling hard. fill out fda form, easy. do plant trial, easy. hire sales force, hard. make tee times, easy.

    watch what happens next. they will complete the chicken trial and gain approval. then they will enter into a contract for sdc for the chicken plant that will be in thousands of dollars a month. i can see this coming a mile away. like when they clarified that all 20,000 subways would generate 2 mil. a year. a whopping $2 a week per store or something not far off. i thought to myself... #$%$? really? the postage to mail it out costs more than the product. these guys cannot be this dumb!! and slowly i realized, that they can be. business dumb. they are otherwise intelligent people and probably great consultants. they could not sell bottled water in the Gobi.

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    thank goodness for the share buybacks

    by netprophecy2 Apr 29, 2016 12:42 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 4, 2016 12:23 AM Flag

    in a moderate market pull back you have a stock around $25 easy. awful business management must be changed.

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    thank goodness for the share buybacks

    by netprophecy2 Apr 29, 2016 12:42 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 4, 2016 12:21 AM Flag

    so, the share price is at $33 post market. after they took another 1.2 million shares out last quarter. they are down to their last $42 million in buyback. the only one buying the stock is them essentially. that is why the stock is just over 52 week lows and actual earnings growth is actually flat to down qoq. international revenue at 5%? some people really should be replaced.

  • netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 3, 2016 6:48 PM Flag

    damn, they dont have fda or ce approval for their front line product yet. how can you be upset at anything as long as it is all proceeding well. ?

  • netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 3, 2016 6:14 PM Flag

    the company isnt flawed at all. what they have done is remarkable. it is very early in the process of implementing their product. every interaction with the FDA is going perfectly for the company.

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    wow !!!!

    by duhu12 May 3, 2016 5:05 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 May 3, 2016 5:14 PM Flag

    nice try.

  • netprophecy2 by netprophecy2 May 3, 2016 5:14 PM Flag

    i am surprised the scientists are even talking to the business people.

  • within 60 days to maybe 220,000,000 with a 25 to 1 reverse split before september.

  • netprophecy2 by netprophecy2 Apr 30, 2016 2:15 AM Flag

    from the latin meaning to suck hard.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=ELON+Interactive#{"showArea":false,"showLine":false,"showCandle":true,"showBollinger":true,"showSma":true,"smaColors":"#cc0000,#009999","smaPeriods":"50,200","smaWidths":"1,1","smaGhosting":"0,0","showMfi":true,"showMacd":true,"showRsi":true,"showStoch":true,"lineType":"candle","range":"max","allowChartStacking":true}

    max chart of elon from over $1,000 a share to $5. while claiming to be a leader. it appears ron could not lead his way out of a paper bag. it actually appears they are barely trying. i feel bad for lighting company guys. i dont think they got what they were hoping for.

  • netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 30, 2016 2:09 AM Flag

    the company under tax law can use the nols, however, the irs doesnt want the company to be purchased by another entity who needs the nol. used to be easier. so the rights distribution screws up the ability of a suitor hostile to board intentions to take over the company, due to the preferred shares existence. it is kind of humorous actually and is not a benefit to the shareholders. the management barely owns any shares. they know why they are there and shareholder value has nothing to do with it, except hypothetically. so they fantasize that some miracle will happen and they will need to shelter a lot of profit.

    this may be cynical but after 20 years of failing, if you have not figured it out, you are not going to. a buyer might have come in an fixed the problems and fired the geniuses who cannot grow sales or make a profit. someone however does know how to maneuver with reverse splits and poison pills. it is hard to remove leeches and hard to kill vampires. hence a company priced to slowly go bankrupt.

    hey clem, think we should hire a sales manager?
    well, golly, mary louann, i think we should give it a ponder for a few years. aint no sense in rushing into it.

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    they are going to some 7-11s near them

    by netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 2:36 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 30, 2016 1:49 AM Flag

    "You have no idea #$%$ you are talking about. The ENTIRE Baltimore market is carrying the product and more than half of the stores say the product is moving very well. I have visited more than 20 stores."

    this is about the same as my experience. however, i have not been in a 7-11 where english was the first language. i do not believe that i got an honest assessment at any of the stores except two co-owned stores which said they dont want 7-11 select products at all. in another the product was moved to low priority location in the fridges. the eye level positioning is gone from all stores of late that i have been in.

    my only point was that sending an employee to a local store and bragging about on fb and twitter is utterly pathetic. it isnt marketing. where is the marketing? none announced. also, the soda has been on sale from day one. buy one and get one for a dollar. so they are making discount private label soda instead of building the brands. sobe sampled and was sold in four years. jones is 20 years with sales per state of $600 per day. clear on this? $600 dollars per day average. they sell per state $25 per hour, gross. quite the juggernaut.

  • we would be in the 20s now without the artificial pumping.

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    Is anyone going to the annual meeting?

    by edina_investor Apr 18, 2016 3:43 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 5:48 PM Flag

    gerry, they could care less about you at this point. they are merely interested in converting the cash on hand into cash in their bank accounts. just my opinion, backed by 20 years of performance.

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    Is anyone going to the annual meeting?

    by edina_investor Apr 18, 2016 3:43 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 5:47 PM Flag

    4% of the stock is pretty substantial. i would be furious if i were you. ron sege and the managment are essentaily leeches.
    they have built a company that consistently pays their own salaries without a thought of growth, marketing, product development. they dont make money, they make tee times. pull up a 20 year chart. if they had not bought lumicent the company would be bankrupt. IOT? for them a joke. they are a non-entity. they are waiting for LED lights to become more popular? lol. really? where have they been? it is a pretty loud statement when your 40 million a year company is considered so lame, it is valued at zero.

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    they are going to some 7-11s near them

    by netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 2:36 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 5:19 PM Flag

    and dont just argue. look at the sales trends in soda and for jones itself. they dont even have a product with a million in yearly sales. they hide all relevant sales data because it is so embarrassing. same store sales? ha. good luck. jen would rather die than tell you what the actual trends are. sales per product? ha.

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    they are going to some 7-11s near them

    by netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 2:36 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 5:16 PM Flag

    imagine what the sales would be if supported by proper marketing, which was promised but has not materialized. so half the stores saying it isnt moving well IS NOT GOOD. a 50% failure rate out of the gate leads to continued declines as the product sits in many cases. in others, sales will build. if you had not noticed, 7-11 stores tend to be almost the same nationally. if half my stores are not reordering a product, know what i do? i look for a product with better uptake. i was happy with the product launching but i am not happy with the complete lack of follow through and apparent loss of momentum with all other efforts. i was hoping this would transformative. but i have no faith in that anymore. soda for children continues to be their theme and the brand is nostalgic, not forward. sorry. it doesnt have to be. Sobe and blue buffalo were innovative. there is nothing innovative about jones soda as it fights for tiny share in a declining category. real sugar? that was never a helpful selling point and now it is common.

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    they are going to some 7-11s near them

    by netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 2:36 PM
    netprophecy2 netprophecy2 Apr 28, 2016 5:09 PM Flag

    i have no problem with a sampling program. the jones sampling program is to go to one store and sample. probably one a week or so. it isnt clear, but maybe not even that much. so that is not a sampling program, it is less than meaningless. if there were 100 ambassadors nationally sampling daily, that would be a sampling program.

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