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newnokia78 21 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 21, 2015 12:36 PM Member since: Feb 19, 2014
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    Only 2.7 billion for HERE ?

    by giguy_1999 Jul 21, 2015 11:11 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jul 21, 2015 12:36 PM Flag

    google: German Car Makers Audi, BMW and Daimler to Buy Nokia Here

    And the article quotes in 3rd paragraph:

    "The car companies intend to purchase ALL OF NOK HERE and then invite other global auto makers to take stakes in the company, the person said"

  • Reply to

    Only 2.7 billion for HERE ?

    by giguy_1999 Jul 21, 2015 11:11 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jul 21, 2015 12:18 PM Flag

    dimbort, are you sure that NOK is keeping 51% HERE? Articles quote that German Car Makers intend to purchase all of NOK HERE for 2.7 Bil.

  • Reply to

    HERE sale for $2.72 billions.....

    by thebigbroker Jul 21, 2015 11:46 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jul 21, 2015 11:55 AM Flag

    The good news is NOK PPS did not crash with this news. It is still firmly trading at 6.75. Am I missing something? Is NOK planning to keep HERE patents? There is something in favor of NOK which is stopping NOK PPS to crash.
    Not sure how could NOK sell it for so low? A month ago Uber with Baidu offered 4Bil and NOK did not accept that offer. This doesn't make sense.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • newnokia78 by newnokia78 Jul 8, 2015 3:23 PM Flag

    google: German car makers in stand-off with Nokia over bid for maps business HERE
    (Reuter article)

    German car makers in better position to negotiate as there is not enough competition for HERE. More bad news for NOK.

  • Reply to

    What happened?

    by bjbrandstetter Jul 7, 2015 4:06 PM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jul 7, 2015 8:53 PM Flag

    Read this article on Marketwatch: U.S. stocks stage Greece-fueled rebound

    news reports that Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras has proposed an interim financing until the end of July

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • newnokia78 newnokia78 Jul 4, 2015 11:02 PM Flag

    stockman, on reuters the news was out on Jul 2 at 8:15 a.m EDT but it did not raise ALU and NOK stock price on Thursday (Jul 2). So, the news is good but I don't expect any impact on ALU or NOK stocks on Monday because of this news specifically.

  • Reply to

    Greece Sunday Referendum and impact on market

    by newnokia78 Jul 2, 2015 2:21 PM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jul 2, 2015 4:59 PM Flag

    pmkhoopster,
    on topics tab, I do see that you have replied to my post but when I open the post, I don't see your reply. Are you also noticing the same thing ? If so, could you please reply again.

  • Though Greece Prime Minister is insisting on "No" vote as it would put him in better position to negotiate with creditors but if he fails to strike a deal with creditors then it would mean "Grexit". With "Yes" vote , Greece will avoid "Grexit" with bailout money but more stringent conditions from creditors which is equally bad situation.

    Does that mean that market is going to crash badly on Monday (7/6) the way it crashed past Monday (29/6) regardless of "yes/no" vote ? If it happens then NOK may drop to 6.40 or even below.

    Is there any favorable option that would not cause market crash? Guys, please share your thoughts how market would react if greek voters say "yes" and if greek voters say "no".

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • newnokia78 by newnokia78 Jun 18, 2015 2:46 PM Flag

    google : Nokia Said to Prefer German Carmakers as Buyer for Maps Unit

    This article is updated today and it states that German Carmakers are hesitant to pay 4 Bil. Also Apax dropped out of the race which forced Baidu to team up with German Carmakers which initially was teamed up with Uber and Apax to buy HERE for 4 Bil.

    I hope we at least get 4 Billion for HERE and it would be really disappointing to see HERE go for less than 4 Bil Euros.

    Still no news about the latest binding bids anywhere. Lets hope we get some news in next few hours.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • newnokia78 by newnokia78 Jun 18, 2015 12:32 PM Flag

    What just happened ? NOK day high 7.37

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 18, 2015 10:36 AM Flag

    The way NOK stock shot from 7.09 to 7.20, I felt that some news is out about binding bids numbers, though US market is also strong but as I am writing NOK again is trading back at 7.13 which implies that numbers are not yet out.
    Guys, any inside news when the numbers will be out ? Tomorrow Helsinki is closed and it is almost EOD today in Helsinki. Its sad if we have to wait till Monday.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 17, 2015 10:54 PM Flag

    bart, you brought up a good point that though tomorrow is the deadline for binding bids but NOK may prefer not to disclose bids and/or any other info related to bids from interested parties and in that case NOK stock will be purely driven just by market tomorrow.

    foxgang, can we be really sure that if NOK settles for 4 Bil then it will retain some stake ? As long, even I would want the same but buyers will try to get full HERE for 4 Bil. The needle may swing either side and we cannot be so certain about it.

    NOK is good at hiding details till the last minute. Lets see whether we get some info tomorrow or we have to wait for few more days/week until final offer is accepted.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Assuming that German Carmakers offer 4 Bil Euro for HERE as binding bids, is it likely to shoot NOK stock price by 25-30 cents/euros ? The news came today when US market was open that binding bids are due by tomorrow and German Carmakers are preparing an offer BUT it did not have any impact on NOK stock today. Is 4 Bil Euros already accounted in current stock price ? When do we expect to see stock swinging north; tomorrow OR when the final offer is done ?
    Share your thoughts please.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • google the subject.

    I knew most of it but I was not aware of the following information. May be some of you also find it useful.

    Another bid is placed by a group, involving China’s NavInfo Co, Tencent Holdings Ltd and Swedish buyout firm EQT Partners AB, for the unit that might fetch about $4 billion, according to three people said who asked not to be mentioned because talks were private.

    The people said that three U.S. private equity firms including Silver Lake Management, Hellman & Friedman and Thoma Bravo are also taking part in the bidding war. Microsoft Corp. has also intended to acquire a minority stake. They said that in coming two weeks, the next round of bids is due for the maps unit.

  • Reply to

    HERE

    by mubochi Jun 12, 2015 7:08 PM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 13, 2015 3:04 PM Flag

    I don't think there is any confirmed news that HERE will not be sold. Suri is networking guy and he will try to keep the company lean by selling divisions not related to networking. As the book value is 2 Bil and NOK is getting 4 Bil , who knows NOK may accept the offer (though they should target at least 6 Bil plus). What you said make sense and these are the kind of confirmed details from the board we are looking for in coming weeks.

  • Reply to

    HERE

    by mubochi Jun 12, 2015 7:08 PM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 13, 2015 2:17 PM Flag

    I am sure most of us are wondering why there was no news about HERE from almost last 2 weeks. There were rumors and news during the first round of bids but there was absolutely no news/rumors during the second round. I don't think anyone has any clue otherwise someone would have immediately posted on this board.
    Also NOK never mentioned when is the deadline for the deal to be concluded. Also we are not sure whether HERE will be sold if NOK finds that 4Bil euro is not good enough price. May be Suri and Board are working towards striking some in-between deal such as partly selling HERE for 4Bil euros (may be 60-40 partnership) as Suri and NOK are good about getting the maximum of any deal (For e.g. licensing HERE to Microsoft, ALU deal, etc.).
    I am hoping that we should get some concrete news from NOK management about the status of HERE sale before end of this month as they some responsibilities towards shareholders and they should not keep us in dark for long time. Next 2 weeks should be interesting.

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Nok Market Pulse

    by giguy_1999 Jun 7, 2015 11:42 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 7, 2015 7:20 PM Flag

    Can you send us the link or tell us where did you read this ?

  • Reply to

    Why NOK is down 18 cents ?

    by newnokia78 Jun 5, 2015 10:19 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 5, 2015 3:29 PM Flag

    Thanks for your replies. Here is the summary:

    1. Weak euro (May be because Greece missed the debt payment) against dollar. Also European market was red. Dollar was strong due to strong US job report with wage increases.
    2. US market was bearish today. Perfect opportunity for shorts. (Orchestrated short sale may be going among hedge funds).
    3. Could be manipulation by MMs and other big players as they may be expecting big news next week. (Probably concrete details on HERE sale). Dropped NOK to enter at good price.

    So, we can say that today's drop was pure market driven and is not caused by any news on NOK specifically .

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Why NOK is down 18 cents ?

    by newnokia78 Jun 5, 2015 10:19 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 5, 2015 11:07 AM Flag

    This is painful for most of us. Yesterday we saw 7.48 and today we saw 7.10, almost 40 cents drop in one day which is too much especially when there is no negative news. Before the earnings, NOK median point was 7.80 and it used to trade 20 cents up and down (7.60 to 8). After bad earnings, its median point dropped to 7.30 and now it fluctuate between 7.10 and 7.50.
    I don't know how much difference HERE sale will make. It should bring stock up by only 30-40 cents if HERE goes for 4-5 Bil euros (because of huge market cap). So, it may swing between 7.50 and 7.90.
    I feel that it can break $8 only after Sammy News or next earnings report (provided it is good). My 2 cents ...

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

  • Reply to

    Why NOK is down 18 cents ?

    by newnokia78 Jun 5, 2015 10:19 AM
    newnokia78 newnokia78 Jun 5, 2015 10:56 AM Flag

    Thanks for your reply guys. So, there is no evident news that explains the price drop. If there is one, may be it will come later during the day but for now we can assume that it is mainly contributed by weak euro or strong $. If planet is right, we may get a big news next week (HERE going for 5-6 Bil Euro).

    Sentiment: Strong Buy

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