Make your way toward anything to do with mining
All of it beaten to a pulp and sold down close to nothing
Pure hatred for all mining companies has created massive discounts. But the hatred is still strong, so you'll need the stomach to wait for the reversals. Buy if you dare.
If the computers want to sell vale to us at 12.98 boot up all ten million of em and turn on the emergency backup generator. Let's get this party started!
That's why you don't buy calls, because they do expire, and usually they expire a month or so before the stock makes the big move you were waiting for. Start loading up on anv stock now. Those calls are nothing but a gamble. You could lose all you paid for them. But if your own the stock you will be made whole at some point.
No point nitpicking over price. Any price you pay now is too low. A few years from now it's not going to matter much whether you bought at 12, 13, 14. Vale is going to be so much higher that it will all be profit. Don't focus on short term moves or start pinching pennies or you might miss your chance to enter. Either it's a good buy or it's not. 12, 12.80, 13, 13.80, doesn't really make a difference unless you're a day trader
So you bought at the high and rode it down, and now you want to discourage buying at a generational low?
You yourself should be buying more now, doubling down.
Or else you could succumb and follow the course Wall Street tries to force on retail investors: buy in euphoria at the top, when they're selling; sell in discouragement at the bottom, when they're buying
Fact is you need bankruptcy for this to go to zero. How long are you willing to wait for it at current levels with MCP now backed by oak tree?
Current price is based on over reaction and maximum pessimistic assumption.
The pop on a stock punished and pushed down as badly as MCP can be fast and furious, moving exponentially as shorts panic cover and new longs panic buy.
Downplay the risks at your own peril. You know what they are. Percentage/price arguments won't save you. It's a smokescreen.
Sentiment: Strong Buy
You meant to say long 20 shares right? Don't worry about the bear case. Now is your chance to average down by buying another 80 shares. Glty
And what is the reality? Do you have a monopoly on it?
You're right, people invest to make money, but there are two sides to every trade and different investors have different time horizons.
Shorts are banking on a continued downtrend, thus they assume MCP is headed for bankruptcy.
Longs are banking on a turn around and reversal of trend for this company, an event which will obviously take longer to play out. This is a commodity play, so one must be willing to wait out of the down cycle if one is long.
What does any of this have to do with reality or philosophy? No one knows the future. One invests based on the knowledge one has and can get about what the future will be, and based on a time horizon - how long one is willing to wait for that future to be realized.
Sentiment: Strong Buy
You don't always get rich that way because the sleaze are always one step ahead of you and a lot bigger than you. Attempting to follow them you are very liable to end their victim.
A better way to get rich is do your own research, find your own opportunities, and keep your integrity. It works a lot better though it might not feel as satisfying as gambling all you own on LNKD and getting lucky enough to sell before they drop the bomb,
It will be a pretty quick tumble for you, into margin calls and bankruptcy. But don't let thst deter you from your plan. Have the courage of your convictions--short it with everything ya've got.
Yeah of course. Buy high. Sell low.
Great advice. Thought that's what most investors did on instinct.
Do they really need zacks to help them rationalize their decision?
Come on everybody, mat is on sale. Let's all dump it together so that the goons at zacks can jump all over it at an even lower price. Zinger of an article there fellas.
Well what do you know another short term trader on yahoo messgae boards trying to spread the gospel of short term trading and scare long term holders out of their investment.
A post complete with words of wisdom like:
No mention of the fact thst trading ranges are temporary and often change as soon as you notice them, or thst a single catalyst can drive a stock up to a level from which it won't come down again for years. Just the promise of high profits if you buy and sell like a hyperactive child.
I hope nobody falls for this garbage. The market is not predictable. Any pattern you can identify is temporary and subject to change at any moment. Don't confuse luck with skill. If you are an investor keep buying the dips and don't sell a damn share till we are smack in the middle of the next commodity boom
I love to see a concerted effort to keep a stock down. They want it low to accumulate. You accumulate right along with them. By the time they decide it's time to take er up, so much pressure has built up that it blows the lid off and by thst time you've got enough shares to really take advantage of those upgrades that start pouring in once a stock is back to being overvalued. The way they operate the market today is a joke. Investment banks, Analysts, the fed, The whole gang of clowns. The key is to be the one who laughs last.
“Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. I do not feel there will be soon if ever a 50 or 60 point break from present levels, such as (bears) have predicted. I expect to see the stock market a good deal higher within a few months.”
- Irving Fisher, Ph.D. in economics, Oct. 17, 1929
Sentiment: Strong Buy
News was not fake and sell off did indeed coincide with it. But once it was digested it was dismissed as trivial and the usual rebound was the result. Triviality was a judgment call though and not necessarily the correct one. What we don't know is if the situation will escalate or not. If it does this weekend next week will be a bloody one for the market. Most likely short lived but enough to scare the beejeezus out of some bulls