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nikkorott 38 posts  |  Last Activity: 7 hours ago Member since: May 15, 2012
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    OT BS personal, ideological, and party agenda

    by barbershores Jul 28, 2014 11:17 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott 7 hours ago Flag

    Your annual meeting? LMAO

    I think that you should run for counselman or alderman or whomever your town has for leadership. Then once you're in office you can suggest that you don't want to make any decisions or take any votes, all township decisions will go up for resolution. Contracts, labor agreements, promotions, taxes, school boards, budgets will all go up for resolution at your annual meeting.

    I do agree that people living outside of your township shouldn't have a say in the internal workings of your confines which brings me back to what I wrote earlier. Only voters should be able to give to campaigns and only to campaigns that they would be represented by.

  • Reply to

    OT BS personal, ideological, and party agenda

    by barbershores Jul 28, 2014 11:17 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott 12 hours ago Flag

    "In a democracy, a true democracy, every citizen gets to vote on each issue. "

    Functionally unworkable, both from a management and timing standpoints. I'm betting that your own municipality doesn't even do that. Then you throw in county/parish, state and federal. The workload to stay up to date on all of issues at hand would reduce our GDP to near nil because that's all we would be doing. It would be complete grid lock.

  • Reply to

    OT BS personal, ideological, and party agenda

    by barbershores Jul 28, 2014 11:17 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott 15 hours ago Flag

    "I'll go with the 320 million."

    That's very populist of you. So, what's your solution or are you the type of person whose forte is identifying a problem and walking away. I gave you my idea.

  • Reply to

    OT BS personal, ideological, and party agenda

    by barbershores Jul 28, 2014 11:17 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott 16 hours ago Flag

    So your issue isn't with the representative government but whom gets represented?

    The Citizens United case threw alot of the old rules/guide;lines out the window. The fix seems rather simple to me. Only voters should be able to give to campaigns and only to candidates whom they would be represented by. General inform ads would be cut off a month or two prior to the election.

  • Reply to

    OT BS personal, ideological, and party agenda

    by barbershores Jul 28, 2014 11:17 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott 18 hours ago Flag

    A couple of pre-coffee points;
    - If you recite the Pledge of Allegence you'll find that the US is a republic.
    - If the US was a true democracy we would have had a President Gore in 2000 because he won the popular vote.

    The rest of your post assumes that with a democracy there won't be any "agendas" when you know full well that there will be. There would still be people who vote for the loser who are convinced that person would do a better job.

  • Reply to

    FRO, the company

    by michaelmcmx Jul 28, 2014 1:52 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 28, 2014 7:54 PM Flag

    Here we go.....

    via FT
    "One of the shipping industry’s most influential partnerships is set to end after 19 years, after Tor Olav Trøim said he was stepping down from his role at John Fredriksen’s main holding company.
    Mr Trøim’s move takes out of the mainstream shipping industry the man who has handled the implementation of many of the business moves of Mr Fredriksen, the world’s best-known and most influential shipowner.

    However, the duo said Mr Trøim would step up his involvement with Mr Fredriksen’s liquefied natural gas tanker business, Golar LNG, and SeaDrill, his offshore oil rig owner. cont....."

  • Reply to

    Most "Socialist" states in the US

    by nikkorott Jul 27, 2014 11:09 AM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 28, 2014 3:13 PM Flag

    Hi Rog,

    Wallethub has a good write up that covers a number of different topics. At the bottom of their home page there's a button labeled "Studies & Reports". Click on that and page down to the Taxes section. In that section there's a report titled "States Most & Least Dependent on the Federal Government". Have fun!

  • Reply to

    Most "Socialist" states in the US

    by nikkorott Jul 27, 2014 11:09 AM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 28, 2014 2:41 PM Flag

    That's excatly what I meant. The South, as a generalization, does get more than they pay in. I believe Texas is an exception to that though. New Mexico and Mississippi are normally at the top of the list. If I recall correctly both tend to bring in more than double what they pay to the federal coffers.

    Mississippi is a complete train wreck. It's pretty much in the bottom 5 in all catagories; finances, crime, health, education, etc... They must like it that way because they continue to vote for the party of no change.

    I'll see if I can find a government report for you.

  • Reply to

    Most "Socialist" states in the US

    by nikkorott Jul 27, 2014 11:09 AM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 28, 2014 12:42 PM Flag

    Hi Roger,

    You can do a search with "federal tax dollars by state received paid 2013" and choose a site that you think is credible. The normal "Conservative" sites are curiously absent.

  • Reply to

    Most "Socialist" states in the US

    by nikkorott Jul 27, 2014 11:09 AM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 28, 2014 9:06 AM Flag

    If you look up which states are net positive with federal tax dollars, you'll find most of those are republican states as well.

  • http://www.thestreet.com/story/12783796/1/the-10-most-socialist-states-in-america.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

  • Reply to

    guess todays news was bad for FRO shares

    by rami36 Jul 24, 2014 1:40 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 26, 2014 9:40 AM Flag

    JF is a majority holder in SFL and I suspect that he, and his entities, own all of the FRO bonds. I also suspect that FRO2012 will be renamed to FRO after the bonds are called.

    There's investing, there's gambling and then there's stealing. This is somewhere between gambling and stealing. It's definitely not investing.

  • Reply to

    guess todays news was bad for FRO shares

    by rami36 Jul 24, 2014 1:40 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 24, 2014 5:55 PM Flag

    I haven't been following FRO as much as I had in the past. I'm assuming they haven't made any new conditions on the bond coming due in March. I also suspect the notes from this deal will be next in line after that bond. Equity holders are looking like they're going to get stiffed to me.

  • Reply to

    guess todays news was bad for FRO shares

    by rami36 Jul 24, 2014 1:40 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 24, 2014 2:36 PM Flag

    Less revenue and more debt. The coffin lid is on. Nails soon to follow.

  • nikkorott nikkorott Jul 18, 2014 6:32 PM Flag

    You're missing the point . Can you find a 1989 projection that accurately describes where we are today? I haven't wasted my time to look for one because there is no possible way that one exists. There are far too many moving parts to make projections out that far.

  • nikkorott nikkorott Jul 18, 2014 4:30 PM Flag

    Lol

    "Even the most Primitive People know there's a God."

    It's time for you to stop and think about that for a minute.

  • nikkorott nikkorott Jul 17, 2014 11:57 AM Flag

    You're worried about a projection 25 years out? You need to get a new hobby.

  • Reply to

    OT BS What big data could do for healthcare

    by barbershores Jul 13, 2014 1:53 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 15, 2014 5:28 PM Flag

    I think this entire discussion is cute. As wise as a national healthcare database is, it will never ever happen. (South Korea has an amazing system that, if you're truely interested about the subject, you should look into.) To manage any nation database would require individual identifiers. You would want your medical records to be attached to you individually and not some segemnted group of people. For that to happen would require a national ID. Go ahead and do a search for "National ID" and read all of the conspiracy theories. Then you want attach health records to that ID? Good luck!

  • Reply to

    scs called me a Marxist

    by lakeed98 Jul 9, 2014 12:01 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 12, 2014 12:26 PM Flag

    The Road to Serfdom, pp 148-149
    “There is no reason why in a society which has reached the general level of wealth which ours has attained the first kind of security should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom. .... [T]here can be no doubt that some minimum of food, shelter, and clothing, sufficient to preserve health and the capacity to work, can be assured to everybody. ...

    You can search for "Hayek basic income" and get any number of results.

  • Reply to

    scs called me a Marxist

    by lakeed98 Jul 9, 2014 12:01 PM
    nikkorott nikkorott Jul 12, 2014 11:05 AM Flag

    On the contrary Semp, I couldn't find that one particular quote that I referred to earlier. Hayek believed in, and preached for, universal health care, minimum income (as in a monthly stipend) and basic housing for everybody. He even wrote a paper titled "Why I'm not a conservative."

    "The tug of war between conservatives and progressives can only affect the speed, not the direction, of
    contemporary developments. But, though there is a need for a "brake on the vehicle of
    progress," I personally cannot be content with simply helping to apply the brake. What
    the liberal must ask, first of all, is not how fast or how far we should move, but where we
    should move." F.A. Hayek

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