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norrishappy 776 posts  |  Last Activity: 3 hours ago Member since: Apr 24, 2002
  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 4:17 PM Flag


  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 4:17 PM Flag

    Ah rules for radicals.

    Haven't had one disappear in weeks. I don't know how to do it. Nor do I care.

    Hard to imagine on an American natural gas board, where we can sell fellow Americans a gallon of gas or gge of cleanest of all natural gas for under $0.50

    We are infected with a human blood soaked Stag the corn monster.

    BY the way, our natural gas surface fuel really does emit 30%+ co2.

    American natural gas is the easy solution all rational people agree on.

    Even Obama admits we have a 1,000+ year supply onshore in Alaska. Best estimate before any improvement is about $7 per mcf to develop. Even better the process sequesters co2 to liberate the natural gas from the matrix.

    But it will be hundreds of years before we need even bother.

    Look we just need to give Progressives and their corny capitalist parasites a time out.
    So not elected Hillary. Right thing to do.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 4:09 PM Flag

    The illegal ethanol mandate is a subsidy.

    Subsidy is defined as the government imposing a benefit on a favored industry.
    In quota is a subsidy.
    So is a mandate.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 4:04 PM Flag

    Actually there is a critical element of journalistic integrity and therefore worth here.

    No journalist could allow an ethanol pimp to lie about the cost of ethanol.
    The gallon of gasoline equivalent is the legal definition form the US National Institute of Standards and Technology or (NIST)

    Ethanol fuel (E100)[5] 1.5000 66.67% 76,100 22.27 29.85 5062.7

    Or 1.5 gallons of complete defective corn ethanol to equal the value of one gallon of gasoline

    Ethanol is $1.47 * 1.5 = $2.19
    I can buy gasoline for $2.06

    This is just the indisputable science. So all this ethanol pimp lowest cost fuel on the planet is false.

    In fact, IndexMundi is showing propane at $0.36 oer gallon.

    The gge adjustment factor is 135%

    $0.36 * 135% = $0.49 a gge.

    Natural gas is Mcf of 1,000,000 BTUs
    Natural gas gge is 114,119
    or 8.76 gge per mcf
    so $2.85 per natural gas mcf / 8.76 = $0.33 gge.

    But it of course is even worse.

    Gasoline, Diesel and CNG

    The energy content of liquid fuels like gasoline and diesel actually varies considerably between summer and winter and also depending on what sort of oxygenate it is blended with (10% ethanol gasoline has a fewer BTUs than gasoline reformulated with MTBE and both have fewer BTUs than pure gasoline). A summer gallon of gasoline will typically contain 114,500 BTUs while a winter gallon is 112,500 BTUs.
    Reformulated gasoline has less energy than the superior gasoline we export.


  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 3:34 PM Flag

    Now you are in such full flowering tantrum I can not even find the thread.

    Facts are facts.

    The RFS Law requires a reduction in co2 of 20% over gasoline as a condition to impose a mandate.
    1 gallon to 30 billion gallons is irrelevant.
    Obama swore to faithfully execute the law.

    What again is your tantrum about?

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 3:27 PM Flag

    RFS Law did not change!

    It does not reduce co2 by 20%. Therefore by the law a corn ethanol mandate is illegal.

    Obama swore to uphold the law.

    Nothing to do with GW. Unless of course GW can force Obama to be lawless and therefore dishonorable.

    I do get a kick out of logical points being ordained hateful by primitive secular religion of the great good collective.

    Corn ethanol mandates are illegal. Obama is acting lawlessly by imposing any mandate for corn ethanol of any amount. Pretty simple and straight forward.

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 3:19 PM Flag

    Good tantrum.

    To have a legal mandate, corn ethanol must reduce co2 by 20% over gasoline.
    So Obama allowing to impose a 14 billion gallon mandate is illegal.

    Drop, spit whicl jumping up and down.'

    Obama is our President and no rational person is surprised he is lawless on this too.

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 2:47 PM Flag

    So why don't you want Obama to follow the law and end the mandate?

    Dude see how irrational and emotional you are?

    I am actually not pleased with my laughing at your conniption. It is very unlikely but it is possible you are not another fragment of the stag monster.


  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 2:42 PM Flag

    Stag the blood soaked corn monster -

    A mandate is the ultimate subsidy.
    It is a direct tax from fellow American's pocket into political rent taking corn ethanol thieves.
    It is simple to understand.
    Even you do.

    I really do not understand why the press allows the ethanol pimps to getting away with claiming ethanol is cheap.

    It is the last deception to impose on fellow Americans. It is not stealing if you are not imposing higher costs.

    Which by simple math is not a matter of opinions. So it is disgraceful if a person claiming to be a journalist allows it as an opinion. Ethanol is absurdly expensive.

    Which is why it can only be 'sold' by abuse of government power.

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 2:21 PM Flag

    So if you believe all this emotional driven propaganda, why would you impose higher co2 emissions by corn ethanol"

    Because you are a shameless Progressive.

    You have really gone dark side of the moon here. You make no sense. None at all.

    Entertaining for me but not healthy for you. Sp please stop now.

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 2:17 PM Flag

    Look here my fine irrational delude! This is very amusing but you are not well.

    It doesn't matter who the President was. It matters who the executive is and what his duties under the law are.

    Corn ethanol massively increases co2. The law itself requires a proven reduction of 20% over gasoline to impose any mandate. It is illegal. Obama is lawfully bound to eliminate the mandate.

    On and on about co2 drivel, when corn ethanol is proven to be far worse?

    Put down the legal pot now.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 1:41 PM Flag

    Dude - your emotional tantrum is cool. ;)

    The fact on the table by the RFS Law is the mandate.
    The imposition of the mandate is predicated on corn ethanol reducing co2 by 20% over gasoline.
    The RFS Law therefore compels the elimination of the mandate.
    Obama has the power but not the legal or moral authority to impose any level of ethanol mandate.

    Pretty simple.

    No badly adapted Zoroastrian theology required.
    Just the law.

    every other point is indeed irrelevant.
    The mandate at any level for corn ethanol is illegal.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 1:32 PM Flag

    Nope. This is not a theological or moral issue. So Catholics are not duty bound to agree.

    One thing which is sad. This Pope is clearly very poorly served.

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 12:34 PM Flag

    Energy independence is a great thing as long as we also export and trade with world markets, but over production due to the fracking craze has led us to be too greedy without constraints to limit the amount produced to keep prices in check.

    Back to Econ 101 with you!

  • norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 12:33 PM Flag

    The law was passed by a Democrat Congress.

    But that has nothing to do with Obama's moral and legal obligations under the law.

    If co2 is not reduced 20%, there is no mandate. Co2 is not reduced 20%.

    Natural gas actually did reduced co2 in America. It is produced in America, far less expensive and really the ideal fuel for this century.

    Do you really want to be such a clown in public.

    By the way. YOu are proving what happens when posters do not watch Fox Business or News. YOu are a hot mess friend, Stag.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol is not a partisan issue!

    by stockwatcher4u13 Jun 18, 2015 4:21 PM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 12:26 PM Flag

    Stag the corn monster has fractured!

    Obama attempted to force higher 'blends' into the market. By the corrupt political mechanism of the RIN credit 'market'.

    The refiners simply said no. There really was going to be shortage of gasoline in America.

    The most Obama could do was still impose a mandate directly linked to a 10% 'blend'.
    Which Obama did by illegally imposing a 10% blend mandate. 14 billions gallons is matched to the forecast of America consuming 140 billion of gasoline.

    Look you can have a tantrum. It will not make you any less ignorant or dishonest.

    Here is the fact. The mandate legally rests on reducing co2 at least 20% from gasoline. The truth is far more co2 so the mandate is indeed completely illegal.

    So the Obama EPA is deceptively going at it by imposing irrelevant sulfur standards in our gasoline. Which could be used to force ethanol in to gasoline. Even though the resulting pollution is far more dangerous than
    trace or irrelevant amounts of sulfur now.

    Look Obama is a collectivist. The collectivist philosophy by the foundation does not respect the rule of law.
    Rule of law protecting individual self determination or Liberty can not be allowed to block the undefined Utopian delusion of Progressive greater good.

    Of course the core nature of all collectivist philosophy is corruption. Individual Liberty is suppressed and there for so are all concepts of virtue. The ugly results are repeated, repeated, repeated repeated.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol Is Worse Than Keystone

    by norrishappy Jun 18, 2015 9:53 AM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 11:47 AM Flag

    Stag the human blood soaked monster of the corn is nasty and ignorant.

    Corn ethanol stills use far more water than fracturing.

    "The amount of water it takes to produce ethanol varies according to how much irrigation is needed for the corn, particularly since row crop agriculture for corn is the most water consuming stage of ethanol production. In Ohio, because of sufficient rainfall, only 1% of the corn is irrigated while in Nebraska 72% of the crop is irrigated. It takes 19 gallons of water to produce a bushel of corn in Region 5, 38 gallons in Region 6, and 865 gallons in Region 7. The Baker Institute estimates that producing the corn to meet the ethanol mandate for 2015 will require 2.9 trillion gallons of water."

    Also the marginal utility of water is one of those Econ 101 concepts. At the extreme margin of life sustaining shortage, the value is infinite. But is is certainly the most renewable of all resources.

    Handling fracturing water has been exemplary. Also recycling has become part of efficient operations. Must of the water comes back up. Has to be separated from the oil anyway. So it can be used again and again.
    So we are at a point no matter how cheap water is locally, it is much more efficient to recycle.

    This is not true of the vast amounts of water used in defective corn ethanol stills. It is waste which should be treated and all to often is not. Like wind mills chopping up endangered birds and bats or solar farms incinerating birds and bats, it is fine because we pretend it is not happening.

    Like corn ethanol is not a prime waste of water.

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    Increasing demand for Gasoline

    by gpd8252 Jun 19, 2015 10:25 AM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 11:31 AM Flag

    Oh the Progressive horror anti-gdp.

    Gasoline prices fell and Americans could finally afford to drive a few more miles. What a nasty piece is a Progressive.

    Now that America/Canada could meet all our energy needs in oil and natural gas, additional consumer demand is increasingly a very winning economic boost.

    Miles maybe up 3% to 4%. But still far below the forecast of the EIA and CBO just a few years ago.

    How corrupt and inefficient is government?

    Ethanol and gasoline are an incompatible blend. Forcing or mandating blending was known to waste 30%+ of the energy. How could all the 'science' of the bureaucracy be so completely inept? The same bureaucracy now turbocharged by Obama radical political appointments.

    Which is why American is built on free markets and proven rationality of average people as consumers.

    Had a private company blended defective ethanol into gasoline and not disclosed it would destroy every boat and yard engine in America? Yea they would be out of business. NO consumer would have bought the defective product if they were fairly informed.

    Truth is our cars are so clean now a few more miles makes absolutely no difference. What would make a far larger contribution is using well proven science to end gridlock. Cars needlessly operating at lowest possible efficiency five days a week. Because Progressive are lying and purposefully imposing the inefficiency as a cost to driving.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol Is Worse Than Keystone

    by norrishappy Jun 18, 2015 9:53 AM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 11:15 AM Flag

    Historic but not geologic. As we all know man is a blink in time and our history even shorter.

    Explain to me the Bust Bowl? Explain to me the Sahara 30 thousand year wet to bone dry cycle.

    Interesting Progressive are definitely stuck in the terrible twos why stage.

    Best scene in Kirt Douglas Spartacus? When he laments being ignorant. His love answers some god lives in a cave and sometimes blows really hard.

    The warming trend has paused for twenty years. Not adjusted or manipulated satellite data shows a cooling trend.

    Now you explain to me. Assuming the Greenland data can be trusted. There is after all no reason for any American to trust any agency of government under Obama.

    The IRS abuse is more dangerous to American Liberty and therefore world stability than Climate Control Delusions.

  • Reply to

    Corn Ethanol Is Worse Than Keystone

    by norrishappy Jun 18, 2015 9:53 AM
    norrishappy norrishappy Jun 19, 2015 9:23 AM Flag

    Well be scared.

    Al Magic-Cali made fun of how much power the ecological and economic disaster of corn ethanol is.

    Truth is most of the press, environmentalists have held their fire because it is Obama. As is already occurring with Hillary. Enabling real Potemkin Village politics from both of them.

    If a Republican wins I expect the double standard will kick in. The press will actually do their job.
    Republicans protecting Red state pork. Which is fine as long as this outright theft from working class Americans and hungry people around the world is ended.

    We still need to address electricity cost increasing 38%. In a time of falling American family incomes and massive deflation in the cost of fuel.

    You want to lower co2? Bring manufacturing back to American from dirty old Asia.

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