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not_totally_gray 183 posts  |  Last Activity: May 4, 2015 2:04 PM Member since: May 14, 1999
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    This market is Psycho

    by tooncat111 Apr 29, 2015 10:23 AM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray May 4, 2015 2:04 PM Flag

    I'm guessing that a lot of the EMES action today is short covering by folks who shorted last week before earning announcement and now are just routinely covering after the news. Daily action in all of these sand companies seems dominated by day traders, more so than most other MLPs.

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    blackstone gives it to shareholders again

    by davidandkathy1 May 4, 2015 12:42 PM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray May 4, 2015 2:00 PM Flag

    This stock doesn't have anything to do with Blackstone the big wall street firm (BX). This is "Black Stone" -- two words -- not associated with Blackstone at all. At least I'm pretty sure -- that was one of the things I specifically tried to figure out in the prospectus.

  • Reply to

    IPO Pricing

    by mellowmike05 Apr 26, 2015 11:44 PM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray May 1, 2015 2:05 PM Flag

    I did the same thing. I was reading the prospectus last night was didn't think 5% yield was high enough, considering that it seemed likely that all of it would be taxed as ordinary income. Really like the basic business though and suspect it might be great in an IRA if it works out tax-wise. I think it will bottom quickly in next day or two as all the disappointed would-be "flipper" clear out.

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    So Now We Know

    by kcalw Apr 29, 2015 9:52 AM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 29, 2015 11:36 AM Flag

    How much of this Is really OHI-specific? HCN, HCP, O are all also down 2-3%. Obviously someone wasn't thrilled by earnings, but looks like general sector weakness too. Ho hum...

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 24, 2015 10:13 AM Flag

    I don't think they're even reading the Moody's release. Obviously they missed this part:

    " Moody's analysts said that proppant companies' ability to quickly respond to customers' supply and cost efficiency needs will be vital in the coming year, noting U.S. Silica (Ba3, stable), Fairmount Santrol (B1, stable) and Hi-Crush (B2, stable) as companies well-positioned to increase market share as the sector continues to go through a down cycle."

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 24, 2015 10:04 AM Flag

    EMES paid out $5.09 in last 4 quarters, so while they are reducing 1st quarter dist by 29%, for full year they are guiding for 40% reduction. Ouch...

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 24, 2015 10:03 AM Flag

    What's surprising is that they are signalling even lower distributions for future quarter -- if they're paying out $1 in first quarter but guiding for $3 for full year, that's only $2 over next three quarters, so you're looking at a quarter distribution of $0.50-$0.60 by end of year. Most companies would do one large cut now and get it over with.

    This is exactly the flip side of the frustration every HCLP shareholder felt last year watching EMES rocket higher 2X or 3X HCLP. This is what we all told ourselves, that HCLP was the more conservative play and in a downturn EMES would get hit harder, so hopefully that is what we will see -- HCLP being able to maintain distribution because they have been managed more conservatively, and we made the right choice after all. But I still think we will get punished in sympathy and $40 will not happen any time soon.

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    Decrease to $3.00 per unit for the year

    by davidrichardsonj Apr 24, 2015 8:19 AM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 24, 2015 9:57 AM Flag

    "It's still $1. "

    If they're guiding for $3 for full year, that means more cuts to some -- $1 for first quarter means only $2 more over next three quarters. They paid out $5.09 last 4 quarters, so a cut to $3 is 40%.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 23, 2015 10:09 AM Flag

    fwiw, another 17% distr increase announced by MMP today.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 21, 2015 5:09 PM Flag

    MMP is the absolute gold standard for growth. The number that separates MMP from every other MLP is that they haven't issued new shares in something like TEN YEARS -- *all* of their growth has been internally financed, which is why they grow distribution +15% every single year. IMO the difference in the stock price is simply that EPD is so heavy into NGLs which is a softer business in current commodity environment than MMP, but of course buying it now gives you the upside when growth resumes. MMP bought all of BP's storage assets in Cushing for a song a couple years ago post-Macondo, how much money are they making on them now with every tank in Cushing overflowing? But I don't think you can go wrong buying EPD here either -- buying great companies at the bottom is what you're supposed to do.

    Both companies have also benefited greatly from buying in their GP -- IMO you should strongly consider limiting your choices to those that either don't have a GP, or are a GP, if you want to focus on best-of-breed.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 21, 2015 1:47 PM Flag

    "That translates to a 14% annualized return on their total assets under management "
    That's about what we got last year when you add in the special div.

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    SSWN 6.375% -Mature in 2019 now below par (25)

    by melvin10512 Apr 16, 2015 8:19 AM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 21, 2015 10:14 AM Flag

    The best thing about them IMO is that by the time they mature, hopefully bond yields in general will be (finally) higher, so they look like a nice way to park cash for four years waiting for rates to rise. I usually like to buy longer-term investment-grade bonds, but of course haven't been doing much of that last couple of years. I think SSW's credit profile for next 4 years is pretty solid with the new ships coming on line and current contract status of the rest, so I'm a lot more comfortable with these than other junk bonds.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 16, 2015 9:49 AM Flag

    Could that be a cap gain if they sold a large position? Not sure if cap gains are considered part of NII.

  • not_totally_gray by not_totally_gray Apr 15, 2015 2:24 PM Flag

    another bounce back from exactly $40 this afternoon... I bet if we get another dist increase, we'll break right through. The 15th is about when it should be announced.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 15, 2015 12:58 PM Flag

    This article from Seeking Alpha explains it well:
    "The intention behind the fund is excellent: simplify the often complicated process of owning MLPs by applying an ETF wrapper to the broad asset class. However, AMLP is not the right vehicle for the majority of investors, and it represents one of the rare cases when buying the ETF structure makes very little sense.

    Legally MLPs can make up only 25% of a portfolio registered under the Investment Company Act of 1940. Most mutual funds and ETFs are structured this way. To get around this issue, AMLP is actually structured as a corporation that pays income tax: Before return is passed on to the investor, it must be taxed at the corporate level. Although AMLP's prospectus expense ratio is 0.85%, its gross expense ratio (which accounts for these tax liabilities) is almost 5% as of September. As a result, AMLP has lagged its index significantly. Over the past year AMLP lagged by 10%, and since inception it trailed by a shocking 40%. The upside? When MLPs are down, AMLP declines less because it can reverse some of the deferred tax liabilities it has accrued. For all but the most risk-averse yet desperate-for-yield investors, this downside protection is not enough to make up for the fund's structural issues."

  • Reply to

    Anybody own this stock besides me?

    by tshotglass Apr 10, 2015 3:24 PM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 13, 2015 1:29 PM Flag

    you have to like the fact that even after announcing a large secondary -- which ought to price at some discount to current market price -- stock has been moving steadily higher all day.

  • Reply to

    Anybody own this stock besides me?

    by tshotglass Apr 10, 2015 3:24 PM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 13, 2015 10:10 AM Flag

    I own it too, just bought some more about 2 weeks ago because 7.5% yield was just too high. IMO the added publicity will be just as valuable as the new assets, it's been a very undiscovered under-the-radar stock, no reason why this shouldn't trade at a 6% yield. If this deal really does yield $0.28 in extra FFO, and they pay out 80% of that, that takes the div to $2.30 all by itself. Stock should easily trade in upper 30s at that point.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 12, 2015 9:34 AM Flag

    not saying this makes it a bad investment -- if I was investing in an IRA it might make a lot of sense -- but it might work better for you, it might not.

  • not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 12, 2015 9:32 AM Flag

    from morningstar:

    "However, the fund has major drawbacks. AMLP is a corporation, not a fund registered under the Investment Company Act of 1940 like most ETFs, because open-end funds are not allowed to have more than 25% of their portfolio in MLPs. The fund is liable for taxes at the corporate level, which has caused AMLP to lag its underlying index by a staggering 8% annualized since inception through the end of February. With other investment options available that track the performance of MLPs much more closely, investors should carefully examine whether AMLP's costs are worth its benefits.

    AMLP's lagging performance is a byproduct of how tax-deferred MLP distributions behave in a fund structure. MLP unitholders are liable for taxes on their share of the partnership's income every year. Fortunately, the bulk of MLP distributions is considered a return of capital because MLPs use depreciation to offset their net income. Instead being an immediately taxable event, distributions reduce an investor's cost basis. Taxes are only owed on the distributions when an investor sells their units. At that point, the IRS views the income as recapture of past depreciation deductions, and investors will owe their ordinary income rate. Functionally, the investor is able to defer paying taxes on distributions until they sell their shares.

    Because AMLP is a corporation, the fund itself has to pay corporate taxes on the adjusted cost basis when it sells underlying investments or if it ever liquidated. AMLP accrues for this future tax liability in its net asset value, which means AMLP must give up about 38% of its return in every year when the fund's total return is positive. Because MLPs have done so well in recent years, this tax drag caused the fund to significantly lag its benchmark. On the flip side, AMLP will decline less than its ETN competitors in a down period because it can reverse its tax liability reserve."

  • Reply to

    Sold KMI, bought EPD

    by not_totally_gray Mar 25, 2015 1:36 PM
    not_totally_gray not_totally_gray Apr 10, 2015 1:02 PM Flag

    the higher yield is simply due to leverage. I own EPD in a margin acct already, plus I am saving fees + tax inefficiency.

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