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Pacific Biosciences of California, Inc. Message Board

o08o.ugh64w 408 posts  |  Last Activity: 12 hours ago Member since: May 13, 2011
  • Reply to

    you don't buy the buy the future....

    by blu10duck Nov 12, 2014 4:35 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 22, 2014 7:23 PM Flag

    You don't know what DRAD thought it was worth.

    Tax loss selling is going to hit between now and year end. A lot of people jammed in here at prices $2 and much higher throughout the year.

  • Reply to

    Wither DRAD

    by sonomaca Nov 20, 2014 2:50 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 22, 2014 7:20 PM Flag

    As I mentioned previously, entirely gamesmanship - the letter was specifically constructed to attempt to delay announcement of the PDII acquisition, allowing DRAD the opportunity to make an offer for PDII with no debt and a pot of cash. This is what Eberwein likes - a clean balance sheet with lots of revenue and a messed up management team that does not know how or want to cut costs and turn a profit.

    I don't think DRAD has anything coming down the pike unless they are considering how they could make an offer and then immediately restructure to get rid of the $20 million debt just taken. Obviously first step would be terminating the entire PDII board and management. That would likely eliminate a good $5 million/year in expenses right away.

    Best thing DRAD could do at this time is stand back and let PDII destroy itself.

  • Market maker taking them all down...every buy is followed by a sell of 100 shares at the bid.

    I'm trying to keep my composure and just keep nibbling to lower my cost basis.

    I keep telling myself I'm doing the right thing as opposed to chasing all the overpriced stuff that's pushing the market higher. I'm beginning to wonder what percentage of the Nasdaq index does Apple's weighting give it? If Apple shares fall 20% or 25% what does that do to the index? Just a last month Apple was at $95 - I don't really understand why it's gone 20% higher since. Now the talking heads are out there fantasizing about Apple being the first trillion dollar company - this is a sign to me that this bull is overextending itself.

    In any case, I'll stick with my ULBI and other value stocks.

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    by who_gnu_1235 Nov 18, 2014 11:19 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 21, 2014 4:54 PM Flag

    1. why would any retail investor exercise the rights? they can buy the shares in the market for 32 cents vs. 41.

    2. After rights offering, there will be 284 million shares outstanding - that is a boatload of shares. I believe even more so then that a reverse split will be needed, otherwise shares are going to trade in a very narrow range and be very difficult to move higher. You're going to have so much liquidity that trading will just be games with people just placing their bid/ask out to 4 decimals and jumping in between each other to get 0.0001 better - like TGC. But there are just so many more shares out there - again, it's going to be extremely difficult for shares to move higher.

    3. so company receives $58 million cash in this transaction - that likely buys them 18 to 24 months assuming they can decrease losses.

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    by who_gnu_1235 Nov 18, 2014 11:19 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 21, 2014 4:35 PM Flag

    I just don't like the financial statements. I'm trying to see something positive in them, but I just can't.

    I'm continuing to scale in to some of my others that are beginning/continuing to get hit with tax selling. Just nibbling because I have no idea how far down this crazy market might take them - all happening on miniscule volume...makes it hard to watch as the market maker toys with it. After every buy he immediately sells 100 shares at the bid, then lowers the bid/ask - what can you do? Same with all of them. I'm either laughing or shaking my head as I'm watching it happen before my eyes.

    So, have a look again - you can get some know I'm already in them:
    FORD - now at multi-year lows, trading at cash value, no debt, below book value, proxy fight coming on Dec 30. I'm averaged in below the 52 week low of a couple days ago.

    ULBI - just no liquidity in the shares. Company is doing better than the numbers suggest. Still has $1 cash/share, no debt, BV = $4.01, share buyback in place.

    HSON - Eberwein's 10b5-1 for 375,000 shares was used up earlier this week. I'm surprised that he hasn't been buying more - or maybe there isn't enough volume. All of his buying on the 10b5-1 was at $3.40 and up. Once he stopped buying, shares fell apart.

    These above three are sure to be January bouncers. I'm just trying to remain patient as I buy more on the way down.

    BYI - FYI, buyout by SGMS is basically a done deal. Funding is done, regulatory approvals done - shares now just a couple pennies below offer price. SGMS shares up 80% since announcement.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Nov 21, 2014 2:21 PM Flag

    2:20PM - volume = 1 share

    Hey - it beats the zero shares yesterday.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Nov 21, 2014 1:57 PM Flag

    if someone steps up and buys a mere 50,000 shares, the stock will go right back to $1.25.

    if the market maker continues playing the game, I can assure you - one day around mid-December, that someone is going to be me.

  • I'm sure his net worth is way more than mine, however, looking at a paper loss of over a million dollars here has got to hurt - it's approaching a 50% loss for him.

  • Reply to

    Market maker games

    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 11:45 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 21, 2014 10:19 AM Flag

    the game continues today

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Nov 21, 2014 9:19 AM Flag

    Sell into strength - early next week likely some pullback, look for up day on Wednesday going in to Thanksgiving.

  • Reply to

    If we put 2 and 2 together

    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 19, 2014 8:29 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 8:33 PM Flag

    I've bought down to $6.77 already. I have GTC orders in at $6.55 and $6.35 - I think market maker knows it as he stopped taking it down just shy of $6.55 yesterday.

  • Reply to

    Approaching cash value

    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 11:21 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 4:48 PM Flag

    True, holding that many shares is quite a deterrent along with the fact his purchase price is over 50% higher than where the shares are now. Also, Jenny Yu holds 5% which would vote along with Wise.

    I don't think he's been buying - the volume is so small (when you take out my purchases). However, if he has been, we'll see a Form 4 within the next couple days.

  • Reply to

    Market maker games

    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 11:45 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 3:44 PM Flag

    I'm watching it in real-time action. Simply amazing. After every trade whether buy or sell, market maker manages to take the price down with 100 shares hitting the bid after it.

    Removing my bids - will just watch it fall until the shares find a bottom - I'm not playing this game.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 11:45 AM Flag

    after every trade, he sells 100 shares at the bid.

    I've seen this game many, many times - only one scare people into selling to him. With FORD, he's having a field day because trading volume is always so low - just get someone to buy or sell any amount, then lower the bid, sell 100 more and wait for the next victim. There really needs to be a good amount of buying to get it to go higher at this time. I've been buying, and it's having no effect whatsoever.

    it can only continue for so long.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 11:21 AM Flag

    No debt, profit likely this quarter.

    At this point, I would not be surprised to see a hostile takeover attempt.

  • Reply to

    If we put 2 and 2 together

    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 19, 2014 8:29 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 9:05 AM Flag

    I own CCUR shares and will buy more if the market wants to send the shares lower.

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    by who_gnu_1235 Nov 18, 2014 11:19 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 6:10 AM Flag

    It may be tradable for a short-term bounce but I don't like it from the business perspective. Look at quarterly/yearly sales/earnings - both deteriorating and they are losing $10 million per quarter. I also don't like that there are so many shares outstanding - they will likely need to reverse split then issue shares to raise money.

    Not meeting my safety requirements at this time.

  • Reply to

    If we put 2 and 2 together

    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 19, 2014 8:29 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 20, 2014 5:52 AM Flag

    This is a Karen Singer investment. It's a niche tech company that makes a decent profit with no debt, very good margins and cost controls. As a result of that and having a good amount of cash the dividend is justified and can be sustained. See EVOL for similar. It's another Karen Singer company that has done exactly the same with hefty dividend as well as special dividend. They return value to shareholders. Unfortunately in this market, investors are not looking for value but instant gratification with press releases every week about growth with not a care about posting losses.

    I'm happy Elder specifically used the phrase "profitable growth" in his statement. He gets it - it's about long-term, profitable growth and not the headlines you make to juice the stock this week.

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    by o08o.ugh64w Nov 9, 2014 4:58 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Nov 19, 2014 8:54 PM Flag

    check the insider transactions page - Wynnefield was in there doing a lot of purchasing to support the price.

    I think we may get another chance to buy on a pullback between now and year end - shares are well off the highs of the year and I think there is going to be more tax selling.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Nov 19, 2014 8:29 PM Flag

    the guy who posted about Elder coming in to sell the company may be on to something.

    ZAP Selects ARRIS APEX3000 to Support New Services Such as Network DVR and VOD in Africa
    Satcab Deploys Concurrent's UpShift Unified Content Delivery Solution At ZAP
    Elder is from ARRIS

    It would appear that there could be some synergies between ARRIS and Concurrent.

    ARRIS could sneeze the amount of money needed to buy CCUR at a very nice premium to the current share price.

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