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o08o.ugh64w 64 posts  |  Last Activity: Nov 14, 2015 9:45 AM Member since: May 13, 2011
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  • 8% dividend makes it easy.

    We've been through this before - company always performs.

    My only concern would be company gets acquired cheaply with the shares this low again.

  • o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 10, 2015 7:19 AM Flag

    "And as our investors know, this license expansion -- like all license expansions for us -- represents very high margin business"

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Sep 15, 2015 11:40 AM Flag

    someone is selling 100 shares at the bid every 60 matter what buying/selling is taking place, just every minute selling. if you have Level 2 you can see it.

    generally this is done to push the shares lower in an attempt to make a much larger purchase once the shares have been sufficiently pushed down.

    simply trying to scare people into selling.

    someone bought about 6000 shares at $5.50, then immediately after, selling of 100 shares every 60 seconds continues.

    some concerted buying will need to step up, otherwise the 100 shares every 60 seconds will just slowly take out the bids and push the price lower.

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    walking it down

    by o08o.ugh64w Sep 15, 2015 11:40 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 15, 2015 12:17 PM Flag

    I'll begin nibbling on CSPI. thanks.

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    Jeez even more selling

    by hweb2 Sep 15, 2015 2:17 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 15, 2015 2:44 PM Flag

    Not sure if there is a big shareholder looking to do this or if it is the market maker...but he is going to have his way and then accumulate shares at a much lower price unless someone steps in and starts buying up a good chunk of shares.

    I'll just stay out of the way, stand pat with my position, an trade elsewhere.

  • Reply to

    Conference call

    by sheetwise Sep 16, 2015 12:16 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 16, 2015 4:48 PM Flag

    unfortunately the analyst was stuck on the 63% increase in compensation. over the past few years, the compensation was actually low in my mind...and they have done a tremendous job turning things around...lots of bang for the buck. as was indicated, and apparently the analyst could not get through his thick skull, most of the increase was the valuation of OPTIONS ... they aren't worth squat unless the stock goes higher. the total compensation number may be up 63%, but it's not like the increase in compensation is cash going right into their pockets.

    it also seems that there are more analysts involved may take them a little time to come up to speed ... the folks here likely know more/better at this point.

    unfortunately, none of the analysts were impressed enough with the quarter to say "nice quarter guys".

  • Reply to

    Conference call

    by sheetwise Sep 16, 2015 12:16 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 18, 2015 10:15 AM Flag

    so long as the company is performing, increasing the bottom line, decreasing the debt, and making good progress, they can manage it as they like.

    if you ever have concern or believe that the amounts being taken are egregious, I will tell you, the analyst, and anyone else to go look at what is taking place at FLL.

    this company is very well run.

    I'm personally not excited about the acquisition, however, knowing/seeing what this management team has already done, I am willing to give them a long leash.

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    up over 29%

    by ozzyspop Sep 20, 2015 6:46 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 21, 2015 12:02 PM Flag

    quadruple witching hour (google it).

    similar happened with many other stocks/ was just extremely prevalent here because of the illiquidity of shares.

    shares will slowly trend back under $ and probably tomorrow you have stragglers who simply see the shares are down $2 and think they are getting a bargain.

    UBCP is a good bank showing good results. however, at $9 it is a bit overpriced considering current performance.

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    up over 29%

    by ozzyspop Sep 20, 2015 6:46 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 21, 2015 4:41 PM Flag

    if you have access to time and sales data, check what happened beginning at exactly 15:50:00 on Friday. now, go look at some other stocks that similarly trade low volume - with most you can see the same took place with a (relatively) large closing trade at 16:00:00...the activity began at 15:50:00 with all of them - which obviously means that it was all computer driven.

    my belief is that shares of all these companies should gravitate to where they were trading just before 15:50:00 on Friday...unless there is news since then justifying the current share price. some were moved higher, others lower.

  • Reply to

    up over 29%

    by ozzyspop Sep 20, 2015 6:46 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 21, 2015 4:43 PM Flag

    looking at the time and sales data, I see that last trade before 15:00:00 was at $8.2236 at 15:46:03, then the push higher began.

  • Reply to

    up over 29%

    by ozzyspop Sep 20, 2015 6:46 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 21, 2015 4:58 PM Flag

    SOFO is another good example.

  • Reply to

    Strong again today

    by hweb2 Sep 22, 2015 11:15 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Sep 23, 2015 4:27 PM Flag

    1. Today was the time for buying - right at end of day. People selling simply because market was down, and market maker manipulated price with last trade so it would close under $6.

    2. I was likewise concerned about a lowball buyout with the shares so low. However, Singer and Miller still hold good size positions and they will not allow the company to be sold cheap.

    Shares have obviously been gaining strength and there has been some good sized purchasing the past few days. Shares will certainly bounce back, as today was just the market...can't do anything about that...except buy more. I think we both know that under $6 is pretty great with the dividend and continued low market interest rates.

  • and I might be interested.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Sep 29, 2015 4:11 PM Flag

    every day I am interested and I say to myself "I'll just buy a tiny position and add more later"...then it slides and I say to myself "too dangerous I don't want to touch it".

    seriously though, at some point it has to reach bottom.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Sep 30, 2015 4:29 PM Flag

    looks good/interesting

    good synergy and growth prospects.

    adds revenues and profits from day one.

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    by o08o.ugh64w Sep 30, 2015 4:29 PM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Oct 1, 2015 10:23 AM Flag

    news leaking over prior few days was likely the reason we saw the spiking share price.

  • o08o.ugh64w by o08o.ugh64w Oct 1, 2015 4:50 PM Flag

    Shall we go for $4s?

  • again, the shares jumped to the ridiculous closing price of $10.90 solely because of quadruple witching Friday.

    very slowly, people are selling...though clearly some are attempting to keep the shares above $9.00 - their firepower is running out.

    someone is going to step up, and dump 10,000 shares at the market, and just as has happened in the past, the shares are going to tank to $8.00.

    that's what my crystal ball says is going to happen.

  • much ado about nothing with this silly jobs week things re great, the next terrible...all the numbers are bogus

    what is important is earnings, and SAL has them. what's more important, is that most people are not aware that SAL's earnings are not only good, but are not yet fully reflective of the added profits with the acquisition for a full year of results yet. performance last quarter showed it with the huge jump in EPS.

    in any case, I've seen how crazy this market can be, and will just slowly nibble on shares for as long as the manipulating market makers want to push the them lower. anything under $30 is a good deal - throw in the dividend approaching 4% and it's a great deal.

    I track small community/regional banks closely. On many of the metrics I track, SAL is undervalued. Probably the most important is price/deposits and SAL is about 20% to 25% below the average - which means they are a potential acquisition target themselves.

    in any case, take the gift the market is offering with cheap SAL shares...I will continue to.

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    by recoveringslowly2004 Oct 1, 2015 11:44 AM
    o08o.ugh64w o08o.ugh64w Oct 7, 2015 7:23 PM Flag

    little by little the volume is coming back, and the shares are melting upwards. at some point, as new owners purchase as the shares move higher, the cheap selling will end - we're getting there.

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