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odonnellm66 276 posts  |  Last Activity: 7 hours ago Member since: Jan 17, 2012
  • Remember how I told you how to play each and every ZNGA roadkill bounce?
    Yes, like a broken record.
    It's a very simple concept, but difficult to execute.
    Because delusional hope springs eternal.
    The greed shutters are not easily removed from ours eyes.
    Which prevents a proper perspective on truth.
    Bottom line: You always ell too early.
    There will be liquidity problems with ZNGA.
    Guaranteed.
    All it takes is a single big player.
    "I made a mistake. I can't take the pain anymore. I'm out. The losses are tax deductible."

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • However, at a certain point, they will be shooting blanks. We are very close to that juncture where free market forces take over and a natural price equilibrium is achieved. We are talking about free price discovery, not manipulation from our central bank. The problem is that the markets have been propped for so long with fake money is that we will now overshoot natural price equilibrium as fear causes people to sell in droves. This will be all about crowd behavior. Whether the drastic decline comes shortly or next October doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me. It is coming. That's precisely when you become a buyer, but no one can time these things with any degree of precision. When fear, not greed, rule the day, ultimate bottoms are extremely difficult to call.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • The answer is much lower yet. Remember, just a few short months from now, ZNGA posts more losses, and this travesty of a company has one thing going for it. ZNGA is ever consistent and that explains why it has never been able to list a P/E ratio. The next three months will be very exciting for anyone with a deep interest in the markets. We have a perfect storm brewing. I can't stress enough how important it is to watch the junk bond market. Do you hear the pundits on TV talking about this critical topic? I don't watch TV, but I doubt it. Someone makes a bid for ZNGA in the current environment? What would they be buying other than a failed business model? Not in your wildest dreams, and certainly not with any substantial premium. Karma Yoga still rules Mark Pincus. The process is not yet complete.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Zngathustra has been discussing this type of decline for quite some time. If you had lent an ear to that spiritual visionary and sometimes inebriate, you would be sitting pretty and whistling Dixie, but alas, you refused to remove yourself from the temple of infidels and false idol worshipers, otherwise known as the ZNGA Brain Trust. Now there is a price to be dearly paid and you shall proffer up the proverbial pound of flesh to Shylock. It puzzles me to no end as to why the ZNGA message board frat boys enjoy self inflicted pain, when this all could have easily been avoided. Quite simply, humans beings often baffle me. Yes, there will be all kinds of reflex bounces, some quite powerful, but the primary trend in the broad averages is down, and down big time. Don't be fooled by ZNGA style roadkill bounces unless you are an extremely adept short term trader with impeccable timing. Yes, sell too early.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • I have a question. Does anyone know what became of SFJlegend? He has been absent for quite some time, and I do somehow miss his kinship. Rehab is normally a 30 to 60 day affair, so he should be a free man by now. What I respect about Legend, and I don't know his real name, is his generosity. He once sent me a Bitcoin and an iphone out of the clear blue. That's a bit unusual in the age of I, Me, and Mine. If you wish to know a man's inner character, observe his relationship with money and material goods. Also check to see if he is addicted to these asinine ZNGA games. Those observations will tell you pretty much all you need to know.
    So SFJLegend, where are you?
    There is no pain you are receding
    A distant ship, smoke on the horizon
    You are only coming through in waves
    You lips move, but i can't hear what you're saying.
    Or are you simply comfortably numb?

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • This is indeed curious. I thought these markets had been officially declared dead.
    However, you can't print them.
    They print ZNGA shares.
    The barbarous relics are attracting interest from somewhere.
    Gold and silver might be interesting contrarian bets.
    Straight physical.
    Or if you are a short term trader--SLV or GLD

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • It can do so at lightening speed. What was true yesterday, suddenly no longer applies. This is why a careful study and observation of human psychology is in many ways more useful than hocus pocus chart reading.
    Candlesticks, head and shoulder tops, and so on. Useful, but limited in scope. Humans often behave like a herd of cattle, and you need only look at your average ZNGA gaming addict. A curious stock trader has read all of Robert Prechter. Ditto--Jesse Livermore. Finally, read William James--
    The Varieties of Religious Experience
    Don't let the title mislead you. There's great wisdom here for a stock trader.
    It goes without saying that you must also read all of William Shakespeare.
    He's the greatest psychiatrist and enigma the world has ever seen.
    I would give my left arm to have enjoyed a drink with him.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Yes, you will come to understand liquidity. What if someone attempted to unload a 20 million share block, chump change in the grand scheme for a company with a nearly 1 billion share float? Yes Dorothy, things then get very ugly.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Here, excellent liquidity works to the disadvantage of Facebook shareholders because the stock is still easily unloaded in the millions of shares by fund managers without a catastrophic price disruption. It's painful of course, but not nuclear destruction. This is by no means the case with ZNGA, which trades extremely thin as a penny stock, and this Achilles heel will be its ultimate undoing. If major funds attempt to dump ZNGA en masse, buyers will be extremely scarce and the mad speculators will only bite in the event of a very nasty decline. The spread between bid and ask must also widen to account for risk. This perfectly illustrates classical supply and demand curves at their finest hour.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • ZNGA has yet to reveal its absolutely horrible liquidity (very similar to the junk bond market) and this is simply because the major players have not attempted to unload, and again, we have not seen any attempt at wholesale liquidation of high yield bonds. Mass capitulation still pends, but we will see it. Here at Vulture Capital Management, we simply circle the ZNGA wagon train like a band of Apaches imbibing copious amounts of firewater. Patience is the order of the day. Any patient short position of the ZNGA Brain Trust was rewarded handsomely. This will continue to be the case.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Recent action, painful though it be, is but a minor precursor for the headline event. I begged the sheep on this board not to chase junk stocks like ZNGA in this environment, but alas, I could save very few souls. We haven't even seen the margin calls come rolling in, and I'm actually more concerned about highly complex derivitives, a virtual unknown since many are private backroom bets involving trillions. We are in for great excitement, and there will be all kinds of 20-30% reflex ralleys on the road to Dantes Inferno. Play those bounces if you are extremely adept in your timing--very few are-- but none of them last long, and this is perfectly illustrated by ZNGA's recent swoon from the $2.75 level. Things are different this time. Very different. Watch the junk bond market with a keen eye.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnelm66 is a brilliant stock trader who amassed a sizable fortune shorting The ZNGA Brain Trust from $14.19 all the way to the basement. He is known for his aversion to hype junk stocks. Recent clients describe him as a cheap date who drives a 1968 Volkswagen bus with a fold down bed in the back. Another stated, "On our first date, he took me to a cheap gin house in San Francisco known as The 21 Club. it was a real dive and lady's room reeked of vomit and stale urine. Somehow, this dank environment was a major sexual turn-on, as it was the first time I felt actual physical danger in my life. Most of the customers looked like they were on parole from San Quentin. My dreary husband wouldn't be caught dead in such a joint. We sealed the deal later at my penthouse apartment and I would describe his bedroom performance as excellent, but only after a heavy dose of the four hour pills and some oral encouragement. The great bonus of our one night stand is that the stock savant urged me to short ZNGA common stock at $7.56 per share. I made a small fortune and I am now divorcing that stick in the mud, my former husband."

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • I ponder key market questions, not the next release of another asinine ZNGA game. A token 0.25% rate increase is much expected by Wall Street, so a postponement (panic mode) might indicate to the crowd that circumstances are much more dire and tenuous than previously believed. Again, this all goes back to deterioration and horrible liquidity in the junk bond market. We also cannot ignore the cataclysmic decline in China. I suggest that the stock and bond markets could very well react negatively if the rate increase is taken off the table. In so many ways, this is counter-intuitive since the stock market has thrived for years on a negative yield curve, funny money so to speak. Every rate decline has been celebrated by thousands of DOW points. Things are different this time--very different. Could this finally be the time to consider a stake in physical gold and silver, both nearly universally despised? A legitimate contrarian might think so.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Fidelity might be an overrated virtue for an alpha male like myself, but apparently there is a price for ecommerce adultery when viewed in the public eye. I suppose divorce attorneys will soon be flooded with calls. The entire world is unraveling as we speak. The next three months will be the most exciting action the stock market has witnessed in decades. The veils of cheating spouses and a phony stock prices are now being removed. Things get very interesting indeed. The hand of God is at work. Do you really wish to bottom fish a junk stock like ZNGA in this environment? Be my guest.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Actually, the disturbing price action of HYG is where we find critical mass, as ZNGA is but a minor footnote to human stupidity. HYG, the largest junk bond ETF in the world, is a key market indicator, and we have a long string of daily losses. Investors are slowly coming to grips with the fact that these dubious bond funds are loaded with risk to both yield and principal. Deflation ravages junk bonds and junk stocks. As we enter the much dreaded crash zone, China and junk bonds appear to be the catalysts. Shorts will have a field day over the next 11 weeks.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • You are missing some grand insights on the big picture in our markets. True, Stockman's undies were a bit soiled by his days with the Ronald Reagan administration (a dramatically overrated one), but Stockman, in his rather advanced years, has finally seen the light. Old men are often enough wise. Stockman has some extremely interesting takes on China, a country (and its women, food, and culture) which has long fascinated me. Ignore Stockman at your own peril, especially at these perilous crossroads. You have no reason not to read him. His blog is entirely free, a service to this once great nation. He's writing none of this to make a dime. He's trying to save souls, just like me.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Whatever is begotten, born, and dies." WB Yeats
    An interesting and gifted stock trader thinks with a metaphorical mind, and he makes connections between apparently unrelated events. Come to your senses now delusional ZNGA longs! Don't you see you are just like the salmon swimming upstream in September and October, fighting the furious rapids, only to shoot a quick load of semen and soon die? That's about how long your dream will last. This junk trades below $2- by the end of October. Thus spoke Zngathustra.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • In your well lathered frenzy and much mouth drooling over the fact that ZNGA didn't loose as much money as expected, you drove this junk stock from $2.45 on August 6 all the way to the astronomical heights of $2.75 on August 12. I'll have you know that this moon launch, however irrational, had a direct effect on my pay check from Vulture Capital Management, and I needed that cash for the upcoming salmon fishing season. In other words, your fishing expedition for this travesty of a stock cost me good money, and now it's payback time. Observe how this ZNGA roadkill bounces now fades thread by thread and the stock will once again break critical technical and psychological support at $2.50. Quite simply, this is how all ZNGA roadkill bounces work. You only make money by selling too early. Praise the Lord! This too shall pass. In short order, we will be back below $2.50. When the broad averages come under heavy selling pressure, just a question of time, who can guess the final bottom? No, it won't be pretty. Below $2-.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Aug 18, 2015 11:41 AM Flag

    Be very careful what you ask for--you will get it-- because we are looking at something much more substantial than a normal healthy 10% correction. Risk is currently off the charts, as is margin debt, and we require only a single catalyst to launch waves of selling. It matters not to me what the specific catalyst is, and there are a host of possibilities. You need only know that it arrives this calendar year. A short position is the proper strategy, and in terms of conservative risk diversification, a short of the SPY (even with leverage) seems a prudent course of action. ZNGA doesn't fare well in the coming environment. Junk hype stocks will be hammered by a percentage factor of three.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Don't get me wrong. Unlike FB and childish garbage like ZNGA, AAPL is a quality company. However, we will shortly be contending with systemic market risk, a contagion brought on by China or perhaps an utter collapse in our junk bond market, where oil exposure looms huge. Going into the historically volatile month of October, this is a time to be short, not long stocks. Something gives, and likely enough, in a big way. The path of least resistance is down, and both FB and AAPL have seen their highs for the year. AAPL is a stock with excellent liquidity, but that is a sword which cuts in two directions. In the event of a severe market rout, traders will liquidate stocks where there is a decent bid, and that definitely includes AAPL. We are already witnessing critical internal market deterioration, and the breadth is plain horrible. Are you looking at the lists of weekly new highs and new lows? Therein lies the truth. China also remains a loose canon (a very big one) on the deck.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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