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odonnellm66 337 posts  |  Last Activity: 6 hours ago Member since: Jan 17, 2012
  • I can't wait to try the upcoming Bob Marley brand. His family receives a cool $30 million for the naming rights.
    Back to the subject at hand.
    SPY volume today as of this moment: 48.1 million shares
    Average SPY daily volume: 117.5 million shares
    Hmmm.......
    There's some food for thought.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 20, 2014 2:38 PM Flag

    Sell it? Hell no. Continue to short it, even at these depressed prices. We have the additional kick of the lawsuit against Pincus and pals, very negative publicity. If it ever goes to a jury (of my peers), they lose big time, which is why it will be settled most likely out of court. The next major news event: accounting irregularities, as in 2+2=6.
    The hand of God is at work.
    He has been present since $15-.
    "You shall reap that which you sow."

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Yes, I realize it might take three Irishmen to screw in a light bulb, but I still don't understand what the hell those two thousand bodies do on any given day. If ZNGA were a government entity, this would all make perfect sense, since anything closely resembling productivity is a moot point. I actually have a good friend of mine who works for the California Bureau of Automotive Repair. He tells me that nearly half the employees spend 50% of their day on computer games and Facebook updates, and it's a stretch for anyone to even answer the phone. They can't get away with this on their state computers, which are monitored, so they just bring in their ipads and iphones. This pal of mine is one of the conscientious workers, and he's made waves over this before, which you don't do generally in a government office setting, because you soon find the higher ups going after your own throat. Anyway, he retires soon and just walks away, leaving things just as they are.

    Summary: ZNGA is the DMV of social gaming. However, in the next restructuring of the company, an inevitable event, 500 of those 2000 bodies go away and quick. Then you only have the great sucking sound of 1500, and that of course doesn't include fat management. Imagine that Elon Musk builds electric cars with just slightly more employees than ZNGA.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Reply to

    Why did odonnell become a paid basher?

    by krunalpatel8 Nov 20, 2014 12:56 PM
    odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 20, 2014 1:09 PM Flag

    I have no position in FB, and never have. True, I never liked the stock on a purely moral or philosophical basis. I suppose the masses don't object to handing over their personal information to a bank of computers, but I do. FB is also highly symbolic of extreme narcissism, a current sickness in our society. Please describe the notion of community within the Facebook addicts. "Won't you be my friend?" Or, "I like. I dislike." If only life were that simple. It is not. Facebook is already starting to break down from the high of $81.16. Clearly, I don't buy the valuation with a P/E of 68, but at least FB has earnings unlike ZNGA and AMZN. When the indexes decline, FB shares will be under big pressure because of excellent liquidity. Traders will be selling what they can move fast with minimal spreads between bid and ask. ZNGA might have some problems in this regard.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • The only possible hope for this pathetic bloated pig is that some big outfit-- the likes of Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Electronic Arts, or Facebook--absorbs the ZNGA Brain Trust. This primarily explains Mattrick's obscene compensation package. He's not being paid for his vision. Like a used car salesman, he's being paid to offload this unprofitable beast of burden, and he has the proper connections to do so. At a current market cap of 2.45 billion, absurd in of itself, the price would have to be in the range of $3.5 to $5 billion, no mere pocket change. Here are a number of problems with this notion:
    1. There is nothing inherently special about ZNGA's so-called intellectual property.
    2. The barriers of entry to social gaming are minimal at best. It can be created in house.
    3. Why pay a premium for a failed revenue model? Freemium doesn't work over the long haul.
    4. Are you going to take on 2000 idlers, the ZNGA workforce?
    5. Why purchase a company which produces nothing but fads, all expensive to produce?
    6. Competition in social gaming is growing at a furious pace, especially from smaller outfits.
    Here's the most critical point.
    7. The year 2015 will not be kind to the major averages. Investors will refocus on fundamentals, and ZNGA has none. It would not surprise me in the least if we see panic selling in the indexes, and no one will be in a buying mood, certainly not for junk stocks. Fear will supplant greed.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 20, 2014 11:52 AM Flag

    Yes indeed master technician. It is a wave 5 candlestick formation at the x y axis convergence, with the problem being that the candlestick is lit at both ends.
    Technical analysis, while having its place in the tool kit, can be taken to great extremes and thus becomes a dark science, much like economics. It explains why perfectly intelligent people can read the identical chart the opposite way. Most of you would be better off focusing on fundamentals like actual profits, and ZNGA has none. Forget the hocus pocus graphs and do an in depth study of human psychology. Start with all the novels of Dostoevsky. Crime and Punishment comes to mind. Learn to grasp the irrational momentum of herd mentalities grounded in animal fear and greed. Finally, read all of Jesse Livermore, which is indispensable reading. An English major might be a better stock trader than a mathematician.
    Summary: I reassert that today's ZNGA price action is primarily computer driven. In fact, nearly 70% of all Nasdaq volume is computer driven. Hal only requires direct participation of the message board mad gamblers, who must buy his shares. Watch for the day when Hal, after a heavy night of drinking, wakes up with a major hangover. He will then dump stocks, particularly garbage like ZNGA, in a heartbeat.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • That is all it is and nothing more. Chart action and volume say so. None of this represents legitimate commitment to ZNGA as a long term investment. They push and shove and garner a few pennies when they dump. Clearly, there is good money in these operations which require full cooperation of the message board sheep. Multiply 1,000,000 shares times $.05. This is all accomplished in a few hours of "work."

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • It's just your jive talkin' telling me lies
    Jive talkin', you wear a disguise
    Jive talkin' so misunderstood, yeah
    Jive talkin', you're really no good

    Summary: The Federal Reserve, a private bank, is nothing more than a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs, which much explains why there can only be a Jewish chairman. Greenspan--Bernanke--Yellen
    Do you detect the pattern?
    Truth is, the Federal Reserve won't know what to do when things begin to unravel, as they must.
    Excessive QE now ties their hands, and they can only shoot blanks.
    This makes gold and silver particularly curious trades at this juncture.
    And that's despite the severe pounding both have experienced in the last year.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 19, 2014 12:53 PM Flag

    Both those stocks are in big trouble as well, AMZN in particular because of the enormous float and excellent liquidity. Traders will be dumping stocks first where there is a reasonable spread between bid and ask. That will include Facebook as well.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • Buying demand for ZNGA common has evaporated. The Jefferies roadkill bounce is done. The excitement comes when we once again break below current key support at $2.50. I expect the real carnage comes in January of 2015. ZNGA is one stock where you just patiently await self-immolation. Remember that very famous photo from the Vietnam War where the monk doused himself with gasoline i Saigon, lit the match, causing a bodily conflagration? Yes, just like that. You can then pick up a few dog bones. There won't be much else left.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • We are talking about quality companies with actual earnings. Since it was issued from the bowels of Mark Pincus, ZNGA has never even been able to list a P/E ratio since there have never been any earnings, not even once. When the decline comes next January, the hype garbage stocks built on foundations of sand will be obliterated as investors once again focus on current fundamentals, not vague promises. If quality companies decline by 15%, ZNGA will decline by 30%. ZNGA is essentially a leveraged short of the market. We will see $1.99 ZNGA. Patience Henrietta. Remember, geologic patience has paid off big time for any ZNGA short while the longs saw their capital dwindle away. ZNGA = Garbage in and garbage out

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 19, 2014 10:49 AM Flag

    In terms of users or in terms of net revenue? That's a very important distinction.
    No matter the case, revenue still lags the cost of operations, and by a wide margin.
    It will do so as far as the eye can see.
    Layoffs are extremely negative publicity for a stock.
    That's the only reason the ax hasn't fallen already.
    ZNGA can still expend the capital from the fools who purchased between $10 and $15-.
    Until it is no more.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • They are a hardware driven bunch, Mattrick's old forte, and socially dysfunctional, they spend many hours each day in their fantasy worlds. Were Elliot Rogers (he spent $thousands on games) yet alive, he would make for a most interesting interview in terms of what specifically attracts these folks. I believe his particular obsession was World of Warcraft. Suffice to say, hardcore gamers spend lots of money on their pet addictions which is why any gaming company actively seeks them out. However, the severe surface area limitations of a touchscreen phone, or even a tablet, will never satisfy their thirst for visual stimulation. You can make the same argument for porn addicts. Both groups require a large screen. ZNGA represents gaming for the masses, the McDonald's of social byte. Hardcore gamers are not interested in ZNGA's bland menu, and they never will be. ZNGA attracts the plebeians, 96% of which remain in freemium mode. The only revenue derived from freemium is advertising, and there are distinct limits to what the users will tolerate. ZNGA's business model is a complete and utter failure. Freemium explains why ZNGA will once again post losses at the end of next January. You still have the great sucking sound of 2000 highly compensated employees, and they will bleed this company dry.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • A) ZNGA--average: 19 million; today: 11.1 million
    B) FB--average: 36 million; today: 20.7 million
    Here's the touchstone stock:
    C) SPY--average: 117 million; today: 76 million

    Summary: Buying has dropped off a cliff across the board. History says November and December remain relatively stable, but it is not written in stone. We are building toward a massive sell off in the averages, and unlike the early October rout, the market will not immediately rebound, and the agony will be prolonged. In any case, ZNGA is toast unless some fool purchases the company. Ain't going to happen.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 by odonnellm66 Nov 18, 2014 4:32 PM Flag

    My Yahoo ID was invaded by the much dreaded ZNGbola virus.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 18, 2014 3:45 PM Flag

    My prose h#$%$s been ZNGA#$%$ by #$%$ virus em#$%$n#$%$ting from Don M#$%$ttrick's office.
    This is one more m#$%$jor sell sign#$%$l.
    Ab#$%$ndon ship!

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • It h#$%$s the highest predictive v#$%$lue in #$%$ discipline which norm#$%$lly #$%$bounds with #$%$ll kinds of hocus pocus. Observe tod#$%$y's #$%$bsolutely dre#$%$ry ZNGA volume, currently #$%$t #$%$ mere 8.4 million sh#$%$res. Cle#$%$rly, the big boys #$%$re not buyers of ZNGA common tod#$%$y, even #$%$t these "b#$%$rg#$%$in" prices. The recent ro#$%$dkill bounce is done. Finished. More import#$%$ntly, in terms of systemic m#$%$rket risk, the big boys #$%$ren't buying much of #$%$nything, #$%$s evinced by the SPY, tr#$%$ding, #$%$s of this moment, #$%$t less th#$%$n 50% of the d#$%$ily #$%$ver#$%$ge. Volume s#$%$ys momentum is building for #$%$ huge sell off in stocks, #$%$nd when the f#$%$t l#$%$dy sque#$%$ls like #$%$ f#$%$t pig, ZNGA's decline will be gre#$%$ter in percent#$%$ge terms by #$%$ f#$%$ctor of three over th#$%$t of the #$%$ver#$%$ges. This m#$%$y not occur until J#$%$nu#$%$ry, but th#$%$t is only weeks #$%$w#$%$y. Sm#$%$rt money either sits on the sidelines or is selling.

    T#$%$ke this brother, #$%$nd m#$%$y it serve you well. "When the music's over, turn out the lights."

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 odonnellm66 Nov 18, 2014 1:40 PM Flag

    Tony Robbins, a complete and utter phony, always gives me the creeps. He needs a good beetch slap.
    And a severe caning on his raw behind, Singapore style.
    Beware when a self-anointed expert (myself included) has all the answers in a three minute sound bite.
    Watch how they walk in life, not what they say.
    Always observe their attachment and love of money.
    Honey, life ain't that simple as the false gurus would have you believe.
    Either is the stock market, which is why it is an interesting diversion.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • odonnellm66 by odonnellm66 Nov 18, 2014 1:29 PM Flag

    Numbers, and probability specifically, have always interested me. Here's your question.
    Please express $600,000,000, the amount raked in by the ZNGA insiders in the scam secondary offering, as a percentage of ZNGA's current market cap, which is an absurd $2.45 billion.
    Wow, you quickly see it is a very big number, and only to grow once ZNGA breaks below $2-.

    Summary: Juries understand basic math also. Pincus will stall the litigation process which does not work to his advantage in the least as the ZNGA death spiral takes the price ever lower. A smart lawyer would recommend that he and his pals settle out of court in short order before there is further carnage in the price of the common stock. With time, his defense only weakens.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

  • JR, when he is not providing Jungian therapy for troubled souls like myself, is also known to dabble in scam pink sheet stocks. During yesterday's session this was his counsel. "Mike, when ZNGA breaks below two hundred pennies, you will finally grasp the true meaning of life. Your spiritual emptiness will be erased and we can then adjust your Xanax dosage, lower the voltage settings of electro shock, and ultimately you will be free of your Pabst Blue Ribbon habit." Yes, free at last. I think JR is steering me on the proper path. I welcome all the delusional longs on this board to join me on the Peace Train.

    Sentiment: Strong Sell

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