when i first read your msg, i thought you were being a bit "tongue in cheek", so i laid off making any comments about the service provided by the va. (btw, all i go to from the va is for some of my medications, which require me to go in for semi-annual check-ups. i'm not really dependent on the va. i have my own physicians and other insurance. (as well as medicare)
SO, going back to my earlier msg: it's a good thing that obamacare is all about insurance and NOT healthcare itself.
at least, by providing insurance (assuming it finally does), it still leaves providing the healthcare itself to the private healthcare business and not the government.
i think it's gonna be a while before we get the final answers.
did you see my msg asking if anyone here had the middle name of waldo?
Sterling Hayden, US Marines and OSS. Smuggled guns into Yugoslavia and parachuted into Croatia.
James Stewart, US Army Air Corps. Bomber pilot who rose to the rank of General.
Ernest Borgnine, US Navy. Gunners Mate 1c, destroyer USS Lamberton.
Ed McMahon, US Marines. Fighter Pilot. (Flew OE-1 Bird Dogs over Korea as well.)
Telly Savalas, US Army.
Walter Matthau, US Army Air Corps., B-24 Radioman/Gunner and cryptographer.
Steve Forrest, US Army. Wounded, Battle of the Bulge.
Jonathan Winters, USMC. Battleship USS Wisconsin and Carrier USS Bon Homme Richard. Anti-aircraft gunner, Battle of Okinawa.
Paul Newman, US Navy Rear seat gunner/radioman, torpedo bombers of USS Bunker Hill
Kirk Douglas, US Navy. Sub-chaser in the Pacific. Wounded in action and medically discharged.
Robert Mitchum, US Army.
Dale Robertson, US Army. Tank Commander in North Africa under Patton. Wounded twice. Battlefield Commission.
Henry Fonda, US Navy. Destroyer USS Satterlee.
John Carroll, US Army Air Corps. Pilot in North Africa. Broke his back in a crash.
Lee Marvin US Marines. Sniper. Wounded in action on Saipan. Buried in Arlington National Cemetery, Sec. 7A next to Greg Boyington and Joe Louis.
Art Carney, US Army. Wounded on Normandy beach, D-Day. Limped for the rest of his life.
Wayne Morris, US Navy fighter pilot, USS Essex. Downed seven Japanese fighters.
Rod Steiger, US Navy. Was aboard one of the ships that launched the Doolittle Raid.
Tony Curtis, US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus. In Tokyo Bay for the surrender of Japan.
Larry Storch. US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus with Tony Curtis.
Forrest Tucker, US Army. Enlisted as a private, rose to Lieutenant.
Robert Montgomery, US Navy.
George Kennedy, US Army. Enlisted after Pearl Harbor, stayed in sixteen years.
Mickey Rooney, US Army under Patton. Bronze Star.
Denver Pyle, US Navy. Wounded in the Battle of Guadalcanal. Medically discharged.
Burgess Meredith, US Army Air Corps.
DeForest Kelley, US Army Air Corps.
Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Officer.
Neville Brand, US Army, Europe. Was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart.
Tyrone Power, US Marines. Transport pilot in the Pacific Theater.
Charlton Heston, US Army Air Corps. Radio operator and aerial gunner on a B-25, Aleutians.
Danny Aiello, US Army. Lied about his age to enlist at 16. Served three years.
James Arness, US Army. As an infantryman, he was severely wounded at Anzio, Italy.
Efram Zimbalist, Jr., US Army. Purple Heart for a severe wound received at Huertgen Forest.
Mickey Spillane, US Army Air Corps, Fighter Pilot and later Instructor Pilot.
Rod Serling. US Army. 11th Airborne Division in the Pacific. He jumped at Tagaytay in the Philippines and was later wounded in Manila.
Gene Autry, US Army Air Corps. Crewman on transports that ferried supplies over "The Hump" in the China-Burma-India Theater.
Wiliam Holden, US Army Air Corps.
Alan Hale Jr, US Coast Guard.
Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy. Battle of Okinawa.
Russell Johnson, US Army Air Corps. B-24 crewman who was awarded Purple Heart when his aircraft was shot down by the Japanese in the Philippines.
William Conrad, US Army Air Corps. Fighter Pilot.
Jack Klugman, US Army.
Frank Sutton, US Army. Took part in 14 assault landings, including Leyte, Luzon, Bataan and Corregidor.
Jackie Coogan, US Army Air Corps. Volunteered for gliders and flew troops and materials into Burma behind enemy lines.
Tom Bosley, US Navy.
Claude Akins, US Army. Signal Corps. , Burma and the Philippines.
Chuck Connors , US Army. Tank-warfare instructor.
Harry Carey Jr., US Navy.
Mel Brooks, US Army. Combat Engineer. Saw action in the Battle of the Bulge.
Robert Altman, US Army Air Corps. B-24 Co-Pilot.
Pat Hingle, US Navy. Destroyer USS Marshall
Fred Gwynne, US Navy. Radioman.
Karl Malden, US Army Air Corps. 8th Air Force, NCO.
Earl Holliman. US Navy. Lied about his age to enlist. Discharged after a year when they Navy found out.
Rock Hudson, US Navy. Aircraft mechanic, the Philippines.
Harvey Korman, US Navy.
Aldo Ray. US Navy. UDT frogman, Okinawa.
Don Knotts, US Army, Pacific Theater.
Don Rickles, US Navy aboard USS Cyrene.
Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy. Served aboard an LST in the Battle of Okinawa.
Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Instructor.
Soupy Sales, US Navy. Served on USS Randall in the South Pacific.
Lee Van Cleef, US Navy. Served aboard a sub chaser then a mine sweeper.
Clifton James, US Army, South Pacific. Was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart.
Ted Knight, US Army, Combat Engineers.
Jack Warden, US Navy, 1938-1942, then US Army, 1942-1945. 101st Airborne Division.
Don Adams, US Marines. Wounded on Guadalcanal, then served as a Drill Instructor.
James Gregory, US Navy and US Marines.
Brian Keith, US Marines. Radioman/Gunner in Dauntless dive-bombers.
Fess Parker, US Navy and US Marines. Booted from pilot training for being too tall, joined Marines as a radio operator.
Charles Durning. US Army. Landed at Normandy on D-Day. Shot multiple times. Awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Survived Malmedy Massacre.
Raymond Burr, US Navy. Shot in the stomach on Okinawa and medically discharged.
Hugh O'Brian, US Marines.
Robert Ryan, US Marines.
Eddie Albert, US Coast Guard. Bronze Star with Combat V for saving several Marines under heavy fire as pilot of a landing craft during the invasion of Tarawa.
Cark Gable, US Army Air Corps. B-17 gunner over Europe.
Charles Bronson, US Army Air Corps. B-29 gunner, wounded in action.
Peter Graves, US Army Air Corps.
Buddy Hackett, US Army anti-aircraft gunner.
Victor Mature, US Coast Guard.
Jack Palance, US Army Air Corps. Severely injured bailing out of a burning B-24 bomber.
Robert Preston, US Army Air Corps. Intelligence Officer
Cesar Romero, US Coast Guard. Coast Guard. Participated in the invasions of Tinian and Saipan on the assault transport USS Cavalier.
Norman Fell, US Army Air Corps, Tail Gunner, Pacific Theater.
Jason Robards, US Navy. was aboard heavy cruiser USS Northampton when it was sunk off Guadalcanal. Also served on the USS Nashville during the invasion of the Philippines, surviving a kamikaze hit that caused 223 casualties.
Steve Reeves, US Army, Philippines.
Dennis Weaver, US Navy. Pilot.
Robert Taylor, US Navy. Instructor Pilot.
Randolph Scott. Tried to enlist in the Marines but was rejected due to injuries sustained in US Army, World War 1.
Ronald Reagan. US Army. Was a 2nd Lt. in the Cavalry Reserves before the war. His poor eyesight kept him from being sent overseas with his unit when war came so he transferred to the Army Air Corps Public Relations Unit where he served for the duration.
John Wayne. Declared "4F medically unfit" due to pre-existing injuries, he nonetheless attempted to volunteer three times (Army, Navy and Film Corps.) so he gets honorable mention.
And of course we have Audie Murphy, America’s most-decorated soldier, who became a Hollywood star as a result of his US Army service that included his being awarded the Medal of Honor.
Would someone please remind me again how many of today's Hollywood elite put their careers on hold to enlist in Iraq or Afghanistan?
The only one who even comes close was Pat Tillman, who turned down a contract offer of $3.6 million over three years from the Arizona Cardinals to enlist in the US Army after September, 11, 2001 and serve as a Ranger in Afghanistan, where he died in 2004. But rather than being lauded for his choice and his decision to put his country before his career, he was mocked and derided by many of his peers and the Left.
i agree with what you said about tim.
as to whether it will be aol, i still think softy is the one to do it.
cigi, a different view from me.
the va healthcare system provides healthcare.
obamacare provides health insurance (maybe) but it still remains to be seen if the healthcare provided by obamacare's insurance is going to match the health care provided by the va.
if all of these changes (bad or good) aren't an indication that these msg boards are going to be changed and used as a revenue-raising product. i can remember years ago when motley fool had msg boards similar to this and then came a time when you had to pay up to be a part of those msg boards.
but, if it happens, it won't be much of a loss to me the way these boards have deteriorated in the last few years. i can remember saying that i used the boards 5% for informational purposes and 95% for recreational purposes.
both of those %'s have been overtaken by the bulllllxxxxxxxxiit %!!!
i guess i'm not done after all.
as you said:
what a liar you are milibank is not a democrat, and in fact the only reference I found on how he votes was that he has voted for John McCain ,, Chuck Hagel and Michael Bloomberg. In fact, he seems to have had a love affair with Mccain."
you are CORRECT on one thing: i was WRONG (not a liar) about milbank being a democrat. he's neither.
and in the site you were looking saying he had voted mccain, hagel & bloomberg, it also stated that he voted for people when they
weren't even on the ballot.
so, YES, i WAS wrong about his being a democrat!!!! i've got the gonads to admit it when it happens. when are YOU going to grow a similar pair?
now i AM done, PERIOD. (and i, unlike obama, don't use that word casually)
millbanks wasn't arguing against the cbo.
he was making the point that the ADMINISTRATION is now against the cbo report when it comes up with a conclusion different than the one they want.
i'm done at this topic. come back and bring it up again after you've talked to millbank and get it straight from him.
you'll do that, won't you?
"how was milibank arguing "against" the cbo report?.."
he (a dedicated democrat) started his story with this:
"The congressional number-crunchers, perhaps the capital’s closest thing to a neutral referee, came out with a new report Tuesday, and it wasn’t pretty for Obamacare."
he (a dedicated democrat) ended his story with this:
"But there’s only so much White House officials could do. Obamacare has been undermined by the very entity they had used to validate it "
p.s. here's something else YOU said: "he obviously didn't understand it, and was like others who hate the ACA using it as a cudgel."
i'm sure he'd like to know you have him in the class that hates the ACA.. why don't you give him a call and let him know the class you've put him in. i'm sure he'd appreciate it.
"Guess she feels it's best to get some lower level seasoning"
from all that's been written about her, one would think her "lower level" should be pretty well seasoned by now.
(yeah, yeah; i know but the devil made me do it)
climate change IS being affected by mankind. that's because they're cutting down to damn many trees.
plant more trees (and more people too)
". maybe your article points the way to true universal healthcare, something not based on subsidies like romenycare or obamacare or what McCain proposed or what the gop is now proposing...."
again, it's not MY article, but perhaps you should pass that thought on to millbanks. i'm sure he'd consider YOUR thought that maybe he's pointing the way to TRUE universal healthcare not based on subsidies like OBAMACARE!!!!!
YOUR words pal, not mine!!!
another msg cut short by yahoo:
p.s. and it's not MY story; it's dana millbank's story. got a problem with it??? tell HIM about it, not me.
have a nice day.
oh, i'm sorry; here's the part i left out (right at the very end):
Read more from Dana Milbank’s archive, follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his updates on Facebook.
there!!! satisfied now???
i would suggest that the next time you make a "careless" accusation of leaving something out, that you go to the internet and see the story as it was written.
p.s. and it's not MY
what i posted was an ACTUAL STORY written by dana milbank in the washington post!!!!!
as i said before (and won't bother saying it again) take your complaints to millbank and tell HIM what a phony baloney he is.