Anything to hold down HLF pps.
I bet HERB and Jim CRAMER are preparing a bash piece right now.
bunch of losers.
Did anybody else catch that ?
That interview with the Cowen manager on MONDAY who was saying that fund managers should stay away from HLF because of what Bill Ackman might say.
That was an interview from 2 years ago when HLF was rebounding from Bills initial attack.
Anybody who was trading HLF back than. Would gave recognized that video.
I love it when shorts squirm
They missed the entry, they miss everything and they love to bash, surprised Jim Cramer and Herb Greenburg aren't tied onto those concrete mafia blocks they love over there in NY at the bottom of the Hudson.
Suicide requires a degree of courage few posses. Bill Ackman isn't man enough. But given enough rope is in infant hanging himself as we speak. Too bad it's the cowardly version.
"intent" is all that is needed to prove Bill is trying to manipulate.
like clock work. Bill has shown intent.
You can set your watch to it.
Part of the evidense is. Each and every time HLF stock goes up. He issues an attack PR. against the company.
which when plotted over time. Clearly shows a pattern of high level interest to suppress the stock price.
All of this will be his undoing.
Very good pt !
Bill is the one they are after. Asking everyone else and building a case against Bill.
it's far too long. That guy really deserves to have his feathers plucked.
didn't "Vampire Squid" Lord Blankfiend from Goldman Sucks, make the same statement "we are doing gods work" ?
As in, destabalizing countries, wrecking the US economy, ripping off investors on the other side of their trades. destroying homes, families and the futures of Americans, while handing themselves record bonuses.
No wonder they want to protect the capitalistic nature of our country intact. Its only socialism when you provide welfare or SS to tax paying Americans, But its Capitalist when you hand tax payer money "Trillions" to bail out banks.
Lord Squid Vampire, and those like him. Are from a whole nother cut of clothe.
LOL, no didn't lose $30 on PLUG but I did get a nice hair cut on PRAN, not $26 though. infact my PLUG trade was profitable.
you should think about doing some DD before you open your pie hole.
like usual, you add nothing of value here. or any where else for that matter
you were trading in this drama from the beginning before Bill dropped the Bomb on HLF, and how did you do ?
Me, I heard about it the day before Bill had his press conference. I saw the stock had dropped down into the $30s, the day of his PR, the stock was down into the high $20s, And I didn't like the bid ask spreads on the PUTs, so I just watched until it reversed back up, if I remember it was very near $20-$21, maybe im wrong. But The volume spike at the very bottom got me to buy Calls, Then I traded in and out as the stock kept going up and down but towards $30,
Then HLF had their own PR, and I sold out completely that morning, dam just about 5 minutes too soon because the stock was up that morning, and I sold out, then a sudden spike like 5 minutes later would have given me another $25k on my Calls.
Then the stock dropped back down towards $28 I think, and I bought Calls again, and sold those when the price hit around $30, like a day before Carl Ichan announced he had taken a huge stake on HLF which caused the stock to trade over $35. So I didn't get all the meat on the bone, but I got my fair share.
Made a few trades as it went higher into the $40s, but haven't traded it since than, Have no position now. But would consider an actual long on the stock not the Calls, since id need to be on screen all the time with the options, way to volatile not to be on screen.
good luck, theres money to be made on both sides of this story.
that's now what I am saying, im not talking about the FTC. Im talking about an open court room, think of a criminal case....normally the "suspect" never takes the stand, he never testifies on his own behalf....Because once he does take the stand and his own defense asks him questions, it now opens the door for the prosecution to ask their own questions, and opens up a huge can of worms that would never be opened as long as the defendant does not testify on his own behalf.
Bill wishes that HLF would sue, because then it would allow him to force open certain internal documents that are private, it would allow him to ask specific questions etc....
Im not talking FTC, im talking a whole nother venue here.
This was explained over 2 years ago when this whole thing started. It was explained by law professors as to why HLF would be reluctant to sue Bill and Pershing Square.
Right now, Bill can only make accusations based upon his own research. If HLF sues him, than and only than does he get access into private company information. So they really have no incentive to just open their private world to him. Given he can spin anything his way.
Kinda like "anything you say, CAN and Will be used against you"
The FTC is a different animal and I am just addressing the initial question here "why does HLF not sue Bill"
he may not have traded around news events, but he did build a huge short position first, then staged his well attended "bomb" on the media. Then made more attacks on news events that benefited HLF. so no he didn't trade around news events, but he did launch attacks each time HLF had positive share price movements, or positive news events etc....he didn't just sit back and keep his mouth shut.
im a semi intelligent lemming.
Because, HLF legal counsel know's that as soon as they sue Bill, that will open the door to their own internal records. As long as they don't pursue him in court, he cant and the courts cant force HLF to reveal their private documents. Bill wishes they would sue him. He really does. But they know better. That's why....It can only be triggered once they sue him and not until then.
Yes HLF operates on the fringes, but they walk that fine line and they wont open them selves up to closer scrutiny.
the issue is, his timing. He always came after HLF after the stock price recovered or the company issued a great PR. or solid earnings. He timed his attacks around specific positive events. He went way way out of his way to pressure the stock price down.
whats there to argue about. He is as guilty as it gets.
I cant wait to see him in hand cuffs, whining sniveling BeeAtch
Feb 11th. At 2:42 pm.
FSLR was mentioned within my post regarding the SSYS chart "hammer candle"
AAPL. Also mentioned.
But what do I know ?
So far. "My" take on this chart has been pretty accurate.