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Wow...windoze phone is truly toxic.

Sentiment: Strong Sell

So, really a $400M loss....shocking.

Sentiment: Strong Sell

From an article about Nokia on OS News....

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Feature phones sales are decreasing rapidly, smartphone sales have collapsed, and Windows Phone has - so far - proven to be the wrong bet. Ponder on this figure: in total WP7 and WP8 combined, Nokia only sold 19.9 million Lumia phones. That's it. To put this into perspective: in the first quarter Nokia sold Lumia devices (Q3 2011), Nokia still sold close to 20 million Symbian devices. In other words, Nokia was pumping out more Symbian phones per quarter in 2011 than it has sold Lumia phones in total to date.

There is simply no way to spin this.

This is also terrible news for Microsoft. If Nokia only sold 19.9 million WP7/8 devices in total, that means the total sales for Windows Phone will be round and about 25 million tops, and even in the last quarter, 1/3 of WP sales were old, outdated and non-upgradeable Windows Phone 7 devices. As much as I like Windows Phone, we simply have to face the music, be honest, and just come out and say it: Windows Phone is a dud
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Sentiment: Strong Sell

On OS News now....

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Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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It's even worse in the US - Nokia sold 700,000 devices in North America in Q1 2012, but only 400,000 in Q1 2013. Since virtually all of those sales are Lumias (Symbian never played much of a role in North America), we can conclude that Windows Phone 8 is, so far, a total dud in the US.

If we dive into the fine print, there's more bad news for Nokia, Microsoft. Nokia reveals that only 66 percent of its Lumia sales are Windows Phone 8 devices, meaning Nokia only sold about 3.7 million Windows Phone 8 Lumias. Since I doubt HTC sold more than 0.5-1 million WP8 devices, we're looking at 4.7 million Windows Phone 8 devices sold last quarter, tops - in addition to several million Windows Phone 7 devices. In other words, Nokia is propping up its sales with outdated, non-upgradeable devices - terrible news for Windows Phone developers.

People, Nokia isn't doing well. As much as I like Windows Phone, Nokia made the wrong choice by going into bed with Microsoft; the below chart by Asymco illustrates this perfectly. The gap is the moment Nokia announced the switch to Windows Phone. No explanation necessary.
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Sentiment: Strong Sell