After three previous attempts to get the USPTO to invalidate both pats 420 and 664, and after Loosing three times, and after loosing in court twice, and getting slapped by the judge with a 40% penalty on top of the 3.5% verdict to get VRNG to 6.5%, what does Google do ??/
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! ( childish tantrum pictured here) We are going back to the USPO ( Mommy, make them do what I want ) and trying again to invalidate the pats 420 and 664. Doesn't Goog know, three strikes and you are out. !!!!!!!!!!!!! This ain't no T-Ball game and Goog needs to grow up and abide by both decisions of the USPTO and the Courts and even their own expert witnesses who agreed in favor of VRNG
.....By filing an appeal, and going also to the USPTO for a re examination of pat 420, is Google stalling inorder to offer a buy out to VRNG ??
.....As many have pointed out, this would allow Google to pay VRNG, and also get paid by others in the suit, thus getting back some of its cost in acquiring VRNG.
.....The additional 500 pats included would add to Google's stock pile and avoid future court cases. This could be a win-win situation. Any thoughts ?
Any positive leaning pro ETAK posters, please list your thoughts here on the next catalyst(s) that ETAK should achieve. Will it be all held up until the next Quarter's report ? TIA flip
.....Sirius, I am so happy to finally see an announcement like this one. While in the past ETAK has had fits and stalls, this should put to rest a final completion for ETAK/Validsoft to become a money making system.
.....The fact that it is in a software cloud application single platform is going to make the integration into any MNO or MNVO a very easy application to duplicate, whether it is in the US or EU or Asian,India, or any continent, as it can be a software application able to be custom fit to any laws within any country's commerce and security legal system.
.....This has always been the key to my understanding of ETAK/Validsoft, a security system that allows itself the flexability of a software system to fit any legal laws of any country in order to fit its legal code. And we the share holders get the share price increase as businesses deploy ETAK.
.....It is the closest thing to working like a Credit card company, each swipe = money , each mobile phone swipe = money for ETAK and the retail holders.
Not sure of the procedure, but it says a non final ruling. Do you know how many times the USPTO allows to re examine the pats, I believe the 420 this time ?? LAWYERS ARE GREAT AT REDEFINING WORDS AND MEANINGS, but the USPTO seems to have seen thru this again and again and again. Ho different can the work around be, if a Judge can tell the difference. I aM NO GEEK but after the judge listened to al the experts, I think he saw the vain attempt as a colored embellishment w/o any significance.
=== Meaningless manipulation, especially at 3:05 PM, a big drop designed in small increments, and later a large drop around 3:05 PM for about 800,000 shares traded to quick drop low of day and then the rebound.
Timed to not allow it back above the $5 mark.
So much graft today , it is silly to let go of a gain. Dropping it below $5 is simple psyc- out with smear with fear. All the stops taken out by the MM from the small guys. Made everyone think $5 was safe, then bamm, at the end they collected more shares.
The sun will come out tomorrow...........
.....The Power in One Word: "currently"
.....The EXPONENTIAL power of the second word "millions" (of transactions)
.....The Pay Off: residual pennies per transaction are adding up every hour of every day AND futre millions are being added to those totals. Revenues are going up each hour around the globe, so it is a 24 hr situation. When Zain and Fico enter this equation, look out, look up, and get your plans ready for future money.
.....I plan to spend on others first, donate, and buy some real estate, some MLP's to retire on.
.....Well said. Future EPS will drive the investors wild.
.....If I may, lets all agree to howl at the moon when it hits $2.
.....If Friday was any indication, the low volume might be a sign of accumulation just beginning before the Mid March report. Lets keep hoping for some great news and numbers going forward.
.....Could hope for some great news as yet to be released on Fico users too.
Yesterday it hit a double bottom low between 10 1n 11 AM around $3.94, then rebounded into a perfect cup around 2PM. Tried to drive it down again at the close, and it ended up a penny for the day.
..... lets allow the rest of the day to disclose the real story behind today's share price. Will it be about 3 million shares again only to end up at $4 again ?? Let the short bashing begin..... LOL
.....If you held VRNG for 2 years you are up 216 %
.....If you held VRNG for 2 months you are up 41%
.....If you hold VRNG for a while longer you will be up at least 200% jmo from here.
.....If you agree with the courts, ZTE,Google will have to pay the patent holder of 664 420 119.
.....You need to do some more research and perhaps read the CC for the four fold events that VRNG has against Google. Uninformed at best, ignorant most likely, basher most assuredly. Have you even considered the Laches have been appealed for the Fed courts,(over 300 million accretive) and the amount initially ordered for the two awards so far? How about adding in MSFT, Austrailia, England, and others.
....Oh that's right , you forgot those numbers, which = POOR MATH = BAD INFO!!!!!!
PS: POOR MATH SKILLS = BAD INFO = Poor attempt at bashing. ROTFLOL
Pricing looks good today, as we seem to have little volume and little movement, a bottom is in.
Revenues up all quarters, and adoption of services increasing, and revenues too.
Seems shares are not available to purchase below this level of 1.10 .
Volume flat all day17th, 18th,19th of Dec. Looks like an EKG monitor.
Holidays approaching, and next week is going to be shortened and Christmas day closed.
End of year tax selling as always.
New Years eve and new years day slow again.
Point:, with out any real deals taking place between now and New Years day, not expecting much to happen.
Could see a dip to a dollar, but unlikely, given the stronger earnings outlook in the future. And the street trades on the future earnings. While ETAK has yet to hit a big earnings increase, it has experienced steady incremental growth over the last 6 Q's One more Great Q, and I think we run up towards 1.80 to 2.00 range.
Healthy increase from these levels, even if we dip temporarily to a dollar. Waiting out the Q is a good deal from these levels. Merry Christmas , Happy New Years, and looking forward to a great Etak move upwards.
All things to date have been in VRNG's FAVOUR
First US court decision that Goog has infringed, giving us Goog's second appeal.
Would have liked to see the past 6 years, but of with it so far.
VRNG's order to Goog to cease and desist using their patents, and the subsequent filing to courts for 7% in stead of 3.5%.
Goog's failed attempt(s) at the USPTO to invalidate the patents, lost TWICE !
Goog's empty attempt at a "work around" that held no weight, and is non existent.
Goog's loss in German courts with ZTE, and further filings in Austrailia, and others et all.
Vrng's win inside of China courts against ZTE, wow!
Three weeks wait seems a good trade on a short wait for a long term gain.
PS: Goog must have changed their under ware after ZTE lost in Germany. Close parallel to the US case
Now we endure three weeks on shorts bashing w/o any real reasons. I just use the ignore key. Almost the whole page of posts today were on ignore. Just wait for the following posts on these facts presented. LOL.
.....Point: ACCUMULATION took place all day yesterday.
Bet you it repeats the same today. Next Week, the 12th, 4:30 PM VRNG will reveal its positions in cases and financial "future" outlook for earnings thru 2016. Get ready for a positive move then. jmo
.....Should Google loose its appeal to the USPTO for the fourth time, and it is very likely upon initial investigation by the USPTO it will PROVE so, Goog's claimed WORK AROUND is Hooey , false and Google will then have no basis for further appeals in any court.
..... I also think the conservative award by the Judge, although less than the 7% asked by VRNG at 6.5%, does not allow Google to ask for reduced damages. But it does allow VRNG to ask for higher awards- but not directly. If Google looses the USPTO, and returns to the court with no lieg to stand on, their refusal to pay based upon a stalling tactic- something w/o merit, will open the door for the Judge to increase the award to 7%. Or increase the original conservative 3.5% award by treble damages, 10.5% (3.5%x3).
.....Why would this occur ? How man times do you think a Judge will allow Google to run out its course, by trying to invalidate the two pats three times, and trying again to do so for a false work around, before a Judge says enough.
.....It is highly possible that Google and VRNG are in talks between themselves, and the USPTO is a stall until Google tries out another payment scale. Who would not fight over 1-2 billion dollars.
.....Going forward, Google's income and VRNG's royalty is going to grow, quite possibly rising towards the 2 billion mark by 2016. Again, I would refer you to SA articles for the math
....People like you were critical of JAZZ and CALM. Look at them today. iggy land
.....Courts are slow as t allow both sides discovery and present their sides if full.
.....Remember, ZTE was chided by the court a not coming clean in full on past accounting in order to calculate the payment for VRNG.
.....The payment for VRNG is not in question, ZTE's accounting is seen as bad-poor workmanship and disfrespect towards the court.
.....The court ahs not allowed the ZTE to rescind the injunction and has upheld the patent in favor of VRNG.
.....Stock price only moves up on a court decision and only upon payment into VRNG's account. Not b4
.....5 Day = up 7.13 %
...30 Day = up 33.12%
......YTD = up 45.2%
... 6 month = 27.88%
.. 1 Year = 32.88% So the fact remains, apart from all the negatives posted by bashing and stupid silly posts, VRNG is up, a lot for the time periods listed, 5 days to one year.
......What will Wed bring ? I do not know, and neither does anyone else, but the past court and USPTO decisions are critical to addressing the future valuations. The decisions and the percentages VRNG is up agree with each other. Holding tight, even if I have to wait another month or two. Numbers do NOT lie, bashers do twist the truth but not the numbers. flip Rate this post
.....Between now and mid March, the volume should be tighter until the offers go higher.
.....If a pattern of slower and higher emerges, we should climb slowly towards 1.50 or more.
.....Either way, hold here or climb slowly, the mid March will create some big moves, and a good opp to sell some and capture gains, and rebuy as the gap gets filled lower. jusy my plan