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piatt1234567 8 posts  |  Last Activity: Dec 23, 2014 5:14 PM Member since: Jun 10, 2004
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    CLR Will Go Bankrupt !!

    by cook_in_books Dec 22, 2014 8:29 PM
    piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Dec 23, 2014 5:14 PM Flag

    he started the company almost 50 years ago with one well and has been through many ups and downs and has been quite efficient at growing the company. this may be a big bump in the road but it would be silly to think the whole company will fold. you have not researched this guys long term performance very well. hard to believe a delusional could be that good at it for 50 years.

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    This Has Gone Straight Down Since The Split

    by brainboy262 Dec 17, 2014 11:24 AM
    piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Dec 17, 2014 4:48 PM Flag

    get a brain boy. it is because the price of oil dropped so fast.

  • piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Dec 12, 2014 5:22 PM Flag

    in the long run the company will thrive. in the short run, harold can now successfully claim in his divorce trial appeal by his wife that market forces do impact the price. people seem to forget harold owns 68% of the company. it is not xom's choice to buy.

  • piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Dec 12, 2014 5:18 PM Flag

    harold built this company from one well. he also knows that there are about 36 billion barrels proved reserves and 900 billion total in the bakken and over the next few decades technology will help unlock at least 10% of the other amount. he also believes the oil price will come back up someday. so do many analyst, as well as t. boone pickens, and even bank of america energy analyst who predict $80 ilo within 18 months. harold owns 68% of the shares and i do not think he will be planning to sell at all. he has predicted growth in the bakken for the next 50 years. there will be bumps in the road and this is a big one but they will make it over and again, i doubt harold has any intention what so ever to sell.

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    Will CLR go bankrupt

    by hufrd Dec 8, 2014 2:40 PM
    piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Dec 10, 2014 5:51 PM Flag

    but harold owns 68% of shares. do not think he would be interested. he knows the long term potential and would not sell at these low prices.

  • piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Nov 30, 2014 6:57 PM Flag

    cheap oil means many projects will slow down and supply growth slows down. cheap oil overtime will increase demand and projects take time to get restarted, so oil will rise again someday and as some analysts say can create a greater spike up in time the longer it stays down. not to mention long term global demand growth for the next 40 years is huge. oil will rise again in time. always has.

  • piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Nov 30, 2014 6:43 PM Flag

    your right. train left. 36 billion barrels estimated recoverable in bakken with an estimate of 900 billion or more in total. advances in technology will help unlock this over time. and permian basin. it will have its slowdowns and hurdles. long term, bakken will be developed and permian for 40, 50 years or more. continental will survive. it was started with 1 well. now look at it. and oil will always be a rollercoaster.

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    PTR versus CEO

    by dlhild Oct 20, 2014 11:56 PM
    piatt1234567 piatt1234567 Nov 8, 2014 4:40 PM Flag

    there are some differences. ptr is much bigger with $373 billion in revenue last year where ceo had around $47 billion. ptr is the big boy in china. ceo has grown a lot from around $9 billion in revenue around 6 years ago to their $47 billion last year. ceo has said they will become one of the biggest oil companies in the world by 2034. ceo, if you look at their name with the offshore in it is very focused on offshore growth both in the waters around china but also wordwide growth. they have some agreement where they get 50% of any new chinese offshore discovery. ceo is also focused on gaining global assets as they purchased nexen from canada a few years ago and this gives them huge growth opportunities into the canadian oil sands and growth there through the nexen unit. i would suggest you read the websites and research out the companies further and you will see more about both companies assets and plans. both are partially chinese state owned companies.

    hard to say which is the better long term investment. ptr is the big boy and like exxon will remain so. ceo over the long term will continue to grow and will become huge over the next 3 decades and beyond. both are here to stay and probably both are good long term investments. it is hard to say short term as seen by the happenings of the last two months with oil down, all oil companies can be hit short term. one positive on ceo is that they have so far demonstrated good growth in their dividends over the years. if you click the historical price link and then click the dividends only circle, it will display the dividend growth for ceo. it has grown a lot over 10 years. they issued a lower one 2 years ago when they financed the nexen purchase but then have remained consistent the next two years. i would expect just like exxon and chevron, that 20 years out you will see a lot more dividend growth from ceo and ptr.

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