The Dems are starting to looks as foolish as the Reps now. Perhaps an equilibrium of ineptitude can be reached in our federal gov't.
I'll add in what I told gopref (prior to him leaving the board in a huff and returning as heinlein). gopref declared that the Reps were dead...done....never in power again. Yet the midterms in 2010 showed otherwise. What people forget is that when the voting public is ticked off they vote for the party not in power. I think that is going to happen again and the Reps will gain some seats. In the end it won't matter since they are all #$%$ on the take but it's amusing to watch.
You would rather molest children than work and honest job. There is some truth in it and shows why you are a hard core Democrat zealot.
(See how easy it is to just make stuff up? Maybe you should stop making stuff up.)
Whether you supported it or not it has now blown up what little was working and also provided for a fantastic payday for the political cronies of the cult. It needs to be trashed and have smaller comprehend-able components put into play to help fix things. The 2700 page law with 10k plus regulations (all written to enrich certain people) will only work for a few (those few being the ones on said payday).
Britt Hume said the other day "The ACA was supposed to insure the uninsured but is rather uninsuring the insured." (paraphrase)
Just wait till the employer mandate hits. My company dropped all plans and said 'thanks for the profit....you suckers are on your own this year".
Heinlein....some of us were for certain levels of reform and wanted a slow smaller implementation of the bits and pieces. The old system was going to collapse at some point and since you wanted something done you chose jump off a cliff and HOPE for a soft landing.
My largest beefs are that 1) The gov't now forces me to buy a product from a limited set of vendors who will make a huge profit and are the ones who manipulated the law we were not allowed to read and 2) The entire approach so far has been filled with fraud and lies and massive expense to pay back political cronies (you know the web vendor/ACORN/Navigators). You might like gov't graft and corruption but there are some of us left who don't have any use for it. Locally, I've watched the corruptocrats in Idaho suck money out of the system to have a high paid staff who said....yeah....let's just use the federal exchange. I would like to see them all fired for wasting a years worth of money to have 100k a year jobs to do nothing.
You can deny it all day like betty but this thing is a disaster. You guys own it.
Looks like the navigator program is being found to be as fraudulent as ACORN. Heck....most of them are former members of ACORN and are living on large grants paid for by the taxpayers. The bettyuncs are epic at taking money from others and then using it for fraud (but at least some of it is funneled back to the right cult in the form of 'donations'). So now on top of the 635 million wasted on a web site that won't work how much are we spending on this new batch of thugs and frauds?
betty is a mindless sycophant supplicated before her loony cult. If you study evolutionary psychology you would understand she has no choice (just like zealots of other religions). It's how her mind was programmed via genetics.
Yes VT you got a good deal. The rest of us are paying more for less. It's all about you and your grand cult taking care of you in exchange for a mindless vote.
You can believe what you want. I was attempting to give you knowledge which is an obvious failed effort at this point.
Get back on your knees and sing the praises...."Oh Iz ritchie is gonna get me saved by lordy oh lordy Oboogers....'.
He just got on TV and said that is not what he said. So I guess his two lies now equal a truth. Far leftist loons have a strange sense of ethics.
Lan my problem is I now have to pay more for a worse plan than what I had before. My employer took Obama up on his offer and dropped all plans (the last straw was when the plan costs tripled) and told everyone you are on your own. They might think about doing something next year if they have to but they might pay off the right guys and get that pesky employer mandate pushed out another year.
All I can tell you so far is there is nothing affordable with the 'Affordable Car Act'.
Both parties are slime and have been working in conjunction with their corporate masters to transfer the wealth to the 1% of the 1%. Things like Obooger care are just mere tools they employ to get the rest.
ritchie....have you even bothered to look at the new plans? The basic bronze level ones will cost a family between 6-12k a year and they have a 12k family deductible. Prescriptions are not covered until the deductible is met. So 18-24k to get one aspirin covered is a great deal?
You guys created this turd....now chew on it.
Following the quantity breakdown of jobs in the month which saw the third biggest jump in people not in the labor force in history and a loss of over 600,000 full-time workers (don't ask how this is possible - not even the BLS knows), next we look at the quality of October jobs. Or lack thereof. Because the top job-gaining sectors were also the worst of all: Leisure and Hospitality; Retail; and Temp Help, namely minimum wage hotel workers and retailers, amounted to roughly half of all job gains.
Here are the industries with the most gains:
Leisure and Hospitality: +53,000 (hotel
Retail Trade: +44,000
Professional Services +41,000
Education and Health: +23,000
But it wasn't all horrible quality job gains: the manufacturing-starved nation is proud to announce it added 19,000 manufacturing workers in October.