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puzzled48 22 posts  |  Last Activity: Nov 2, 2014 2:06 PM Member since: Nov 30, 1999
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  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Aug 28, 2014 10:40 PM Flag

    FY2014 earnings are estimated $4.24/share. Company has $47.4 million cash, and $40.4 mn in inventories (firearms). The total of these liquid assets is $87.4 million, or $4.52/share. Shares trade at $49.24 each. Subtracting cash and inventories from share price results in P/E ratio of $44.7/$4.24=10.5x. Share price is getting into deep value territory, but it needs a catalyst. Maybe September NICS will do the job..

  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Aug 29, 2014 10:56 AM Flag

    Fourth quarter will be a loss, according to second quarter 8-K, because of huge charges to terminate the defined benefit pension plan. Not too many people thinking about that.

  • Reply to

    They're heeeeer

    by captainwho2 Sep 10, 2014 12:20 PM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Sep 11, 2014 4:09 PM Flag

    I think you're right....management buys back shares whenever the price falls to $49, for the last week or so. They have $47 million cash, and a $100 million repurchase authorization, which means they might be able to repurchase about 2 million shares @$50 each.

    However, I have capitulated, sold all my Ruger, and bought Apple, Microsoft, and Google. They have huge gross margins and operating margins, and don't pay taxes at 36% like U.S. manufacturing companies, and are truly able to move profits offshore and out of reach of the revenooers. That's why their market caps are all $400 billion and increasing daily.

    Here's my spreadsheet:

    Trailing 12 months revenue & income, $ billions
    Microsoft Google Apple
    Revenue-------86.8------59.8------171
    Income pretax-27.8----14.5-------50.1
    Income posttax-22.1---12.2--------37

  • Reply to

    They're heeeeer

    by captainwho2 Sep 10, 2014 12:20 PM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Sep 11, 2014 4:09 PM Flag

    I think you're right....management buys back shares whenever the price falls to $49, for the last week or so. They have $47 million cash, and a $100 million repurchase authorization, which means they might be able to repurchase about 2 million shares @$50 each.

    However, I have capitulated, sold all my Ruger, and bought Apple, Microsoft, and Google. They have huge gross margins and operating margins, and don't pay taxes at 36% like U.S. manufacturing companies, and are truly able to move profits offshore and out of reach of the revenooers. That's why their market caps are all $400 billion and increasing daily.

    Here's my spreadsheet:

    Trailing 12 months revenue & income, $ billions
    Microsoft Google Apple
    Revenue-------86.8------59.8------171
    Income pretax-27.8----14.5-------50.1
    Income posttax-22.1---12.2--------37

  • Reply to

    Longs on margin are getting killed...

    by libertee4all Sep 22, 2014 11:42 AM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Sep 22, 2014 4:29 PM Flag

    I think Alibaba will shock us all, and very soon. The company will not permit audits by U.S. accounting firms, is sponsored by the PRC, insiders are permitted to sell shares from the first day, and margins improved by leaps and bounds in the last quarter before the IPO. The marketing by the NYSE was unprecedented and continues to this day. Favorable mentions in nearly all trusted news outlets.

    What could go wrong?.

  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 1, 2014 1:14 PM Flag

    How about looking at a different time interval?

  • puzzled48 by puzzled48 Oct 2, 2014 9:37 AM Flag

    I believe BRK bought CP yesterday. Mr. Buffett told Becky Quick on AM business news that he bought a company in a business he was very familiar with which was beaten down yesterday. I believe CP fits the bill exactly.

  • Reply to

    Coincidence in the Military

    by rabies_00 Oct 2, 2014 5:52 AM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 2, 2014 4:58 PM Flag

    The military contract is for 400,000 sidearms, according to Fox News. At $300 per pistol, that would be almost exactly equal to one quarter's revenue, or $120 million, for SWHC. I wonder what the profit margin would be on such a contract? Ruger management has said that military contracts are low profit....is this true?

  • My theory is that Ruger has a roughly 14% market share in the U.S. firearms market, and that it has improved from 10% four years ago. I speculate that you can predict Ruger's quarterly units sold by multiplying the NSSF adj NICS by 14%. If true, one could estimate Ruger's earnings based on the quarterly adj NICS.

    Here is my spreadsheet:

    Quarterly NSSF adj NICS Units sold (thousands) Units sold/
    (thousands) Distributor to retailer adj NICS
    2010Q1 2425 254 10.5%
    Q2 1961 213 10.9%
    Q3 2117 198 9.4%
    Q4 2933 235 8.0%
    2011Q1 2739 284 10.4%
    Q2 2220 264 11.9%
    Q3 2374 245 10.3%
    Q4 3467 292 8.4%
    2012Q1 3376 461 13.7%
    Q2 2619 410 15.7%
    Q3 2904 397 13.7%
    Q4 4882 505 10.3%
    2013Q1 4926 514 10.4%
    Q2 3032 560 18.5%
    Q3 2907 522 18.0%
    Q4 3932 495 12.6%
    2014Q1 3830 565 14.8%
    Q2 2672 389 14.6%
    Q3 2830 ???

  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 4, 2014 2:19 PM Flag

    Maybe I shouldn't be poking around here, trying to find the exact trough for Ruger shares. There are safer low P/E, high growth, high margin shares in the universe, such as Microsoft and Gilead. There are companies with better moats, such as Moody's and Google. Also, Ruger is hard to enter and exit in a hurry, because of the low market capitalization.

  • Reply to

    Berkshire Hathaway

    by puzzled48 Oct 2, 2014 9:37 AM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 5, 2014 10:00 PM Flag

    Berkshire frequently owns multiple companies in the same industry.

    In credit cards, VISA, MasterCard, and Am Express.
    In banking, MTB, Wells Fargo, USBancorps, Bank of NY Mellon
    In insurance, GEICO, Gen RE, Berkshire Re, Homestates, MedPro, etcetera

    I can't think of any regulatory hurdle to BRK owning shares in a Canadian RR. Recall that BRK owned shares in both Union Pacific and Burlington Northern in the past. Perhaps somebody here would like to explain which regulation would prohibit Berkshire from owning shares in CP?

  • Reply to

    Berkshire Hathaway

    by puzzled48 Oct 2, 2014 9:37 AM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 7, 2014 10:10 AM Flag

    I'm guessing too. Nobody really knows what BRK did until the13F Forms are filed with the SEC.

  • Reply to

    Mouthy crustacean

    by frank.goudreau5 Oct 10, 2014 10:08 AM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 10, 2014 2:08 PM Flag

    Volume 3.1 million shares today, or four times normal as of 1:00 PM CST. Perhaps Mr. Ackman's hedge fund is vomiting up shares because of margin calls. Other railroads, such as Union Pacific, are not showing this kind of volume, because they are not hedge fund playthings.

  • Reply to

    Couple questions on merger with ATK

    by smokinboy123 Oct 28, 2014 10:55 PM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 29, 2014 12:18 AM Flag

    8K Safe Harbor statement says merger transaction subject to "risks associated with U.S. Government contracts that might expose Orbital or ATK to adverse consequences; government investigations..."

  • puzzled48 by puzzled48 Oct 29, 2014 5:49 PM Flag

    There were no share repurchases during the quarter. Inventories are rising at both the company and the distributors, compared to the already bloated levels of Q2. Orders were very low. Units sold from distributors to retailers were only 292,000, below the 388,900 units in Q2. Stockholder equity declined slightly from Q2 levels. Capital expenditure continues at robust levels, nearly the same as year-ago. Income tax rate, 36% in 2014, was lower than last year. Pension expenses of $40 million in the fourth quarter may result in a net loss in Q4. Lack of rimfire ammo, and competitors discounting prices aggressively, hindered sales.

    In my opinion, fourth quarter is going to be a rough one, since inventories are still high, orders are low, competitors are discounting, and pension expense will be huge.

  • Reply to

    Q3 results

    by puzzled48 Oct 29, 2014 5:49 PM
    puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 29, 2014 7:49 PM Flag

    Mr. Fifer showed remarkable good judgment in deferring share repurchase until the crash, which seems to be upon us.

  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 30, 2014 6:04 PM Flag

    Maybe an institution, such as London Co, with huge holdings of Ruger and ATK, is in a forced iiquidation scenario (margin calls). Conference call and earnings report did not contain any startling news. Remember ATK shareholders still have the opportunity to vote against the Orbital Sciences merger.

  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 30, 2014 11:13 PM Flag

    Press release October 28:
    "The transaction is expected to close by the end of calendar year 2014 or in January 2015, and is subject to customary closing conditions including regulatory approvals and the approval of each of ATK's and Orbital's stockholders....."

  • puzzled48 puzzled48 Oct 30, 2014 11:19 PM Flag

    Reuters says the rocket was insured for $50 million, and the value of the Antares rocket and Cygnus cargo ship was $200 million, and it is unclear how much Orbital Science's loss will be from the accident.

  • puzzled48 by puzzled48 Oct 31, 2014 4:14 PM Flag

    When investors realize RGR will suffer a 4th quarter loss due to pension expense, they are going to sell shares once again....

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