Temporary workers cannot vote on a contract that they will not be held to because, well, they are temporary. That kinda blows your claim about them out of the water.
The contract was voted down by 65% of the voters. Chrysler has a 45% second tier so that means the Tier 1 workers were also voting "no," on a purely mathematical basis. We don't know for sure what the mix actually was, but even the math cannot support your claim.
"So I hear that the UAW is imploding as I type this post..."
From where? Please provide info so we too can go read up on it and be informed.
"... with Jimmy Settles being completely out of touch with everybody under age 50 and now being accused of settling with Chrysler without authority to do so."
Jimmy Settles, the VP of the Ford Department at the UAW who is negotiating with Ford, LEFT the Ford negotiations to go settle the negotiations at FCAU? What a rogue, eh? :P
" I am also told that many UAW members are saying that they want to strike just for the sake of striking..."
Told by whom? They really prefer to go on strike, collect $200 a week (no typo), and drag the company down? That's not what I am hearing..........in the plant......
"... a band of drunken smoking bowlers..."
Yeah, that's who builds those millions of cars every year that everyone is driving.......only those kinds of people.....incredible, isn't it?
" I give you the bankrupt city of Detroit, a model for what happens when unions start to cannibalize themselves like cancerous cells."
October 10, 2013
Former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick ...., 43, was convicted of racketeering conspiracy, fraud, extortion and tax crimes. The government called it the "Kilpatrick enterprise," a yearslong scheme to shake down contractors and reward allies.
Agents who pored over bank accounts and credit cards said Kilpatrick spent $840,000 beyond his salary during his time as mayor.
...was sentenced Thursday to 28 years in prison for corruption...
You don't think it had ANYTHING to do with this kind of stuff?
Well, that's enough time wasted on you.
I guess this is the first ever contract negotiations for you?
The way Collective Bargaining works is a TENTATIVE agreement is reached by the bargaining parties (company and union), and then the tentative agreement needs to be evaluated and voted on by the rest of the membership. If the contract meets their approval they vote for it and then the tentative contract becomes valid. If it does not meet their approval they vote against it, and then the tentative contract never becomes valid. At this point a revised contract is negotiated between the parties.
This is typical, common, and the way it always is. What you describe is an uninformed view of how this goes. I hope my explanation helps clear that up for you.
Nevermind, people with usernames like yours automatically go on ignore anyway.
Ford has an exclusive on it for a defined amount of time in North America but I have not found any reports as to how long that is.
When Derrick Kuzac, VP of Product Development, came to that position from Europe he was surprised to find that the Engineers were dictated as to what they were supposed to design rather than letting Engineers do what they do.....dream and innovate. While walking through the department for the first time he asked an Engineer what he was working on. The response was "Whatever you want me to." That was when he learned that more than just direction came from the top. Innovation was decided on at the top rather than those with the vision and abilities. He started the PD department having freedom to self motivate and pursue their own ideas.
I agree, Mulally is likely the one that really started the notion of taking risks, looking to be the one to think in ways others were not, and to push the PD department to come up with new things.
Some of the things I know about the company can be seen in the example I gave above. Ford came out with the aluminum truck. Everyone worried about how much that was going to add to the cost and the durability......meanwhile, Ford had already been working for years on how to address exactly that. Now we see the result with the micro mill aluminum process; exponentially faster and cheaper production, and higher formability and strength. There are 130 patents for that process.
Ford's 1.nothing litre engine has won Engine of the Year for 3 years straight, it's entire existance. Ford achieved what no one else could with a 3 cylinder engine as far as NVH goes with their weighted pulley and flywheel.
The 6.7L diesel that they designed came out and then a few weeks later GM came out with spec's for their diesel that exceeded Ford's. Ford went right back into the PCM and cranked up torque to far exceed GM's. The ability was already there in the engine, they were holding back on purpose. That purpose is demonstrated in the new Super Duty frame.
You have no idea what Ford is working on, and they are doing far more than ever before. ;)
Ford has been insourcing a lot since 2008. A lot of work has been brought back in house in order to have more control over quality and reduce cost by not having to pay suppliers for their labor and their company profit on top of that.
People see on the news when a vehicle is moved south and stuff like that, but there are no reports on brake rotor assembly being brought back into the Ford plants, part sequencing jobs, and those type of tasks being brought back in, but they have been for some time now. Ford got into trouble with the Canadian Government for insourcing work that was previously done by an outside contractor and it caused that company to shut 2 plants. There's a lot going on that is not publicly known.
Wow, broke this one out of retirement, eh? Last post in February. Why don't you use your regular alias? LOL.
Fly, I agree.
Still behind Ford on towing and hauling capacity....work....which a truck is for......while GM has made every innovation to take the truck to the next level? Seems like they need to catch up to the current level.
F-Series sales up 28%, and NOW they are going to START filling commercial fleet orders on top of that. What mid-sized truck do they NEED?
Also, the new additional frame supplier is supposed to start providing units this month.
With which vehicle and which year?
September F-Series sales up 28%.........and NOW Ford is going to start delivering commercial fleet units ON TOP of that.
I have been at Ford for 23 years. I have never seen the company the way it is now. I wonder if others see some things in the same context that I do, things that you would not have expected from Ford.
1. Move F-650/750 to US for production.
These trucks were built in Mexico in a plant that was a joint venture with Navistar. Navistar also produced the diesel engines that had been used in the Super Duty for years, and they always seemed to have one problem or another.
Ford cancelled a new engine that Navistar was to design and build for Ford and Ford designed and built their own. It is the engine that is currently used in the Super Duty. This made for bad blood between the 2 companies.
Originally Ford was going to just move production into their own facility in the US. About 30% of the truck had to be changed to accommodate differences in manufacturing practices. In the end the whole truck was redesigned to meet the demands of customers. Because of this you will see many more of these trucks being sold.
Guess where that diesel engine that Ford designed and builds is being used?
2. Aluminum F-150
Many industry analysts doubted Ford's decision to do this. Other than ramping up dealer stock quick enough this has shown so far to be a wise decision, as well as a bold one. One of the major concerns was the added cost of aluminum and what that would do for the price of the truck and profit margin.
3. Innovative Micro mill aluminum created with ALCOA
After almost 3 years of R&D that none of us knew about, Ford and ALCOA, the biggest supplier of aluminum to the F-150 program, announced a new micro mill process that creates a roll of aluminum in 20 minutes instead of 20 days. This aluminum is also more formable, lighter, and stronger than high strength steel by weight. This will greatly reduce the cost of aluminum for truck production as well as enable even more complex components to be made of aluminum and increase the strength of the structure.
Why would you expect to see Ford on that list when Ford does not have a truck in that market?
If Ford were to enter that market I would expect them to leapfrog the segment like they did with the Escape Hybrid, 2nd gen Fusion Hybrid, F-150, and others.
Let's try to add this up. It seems the same people post in topics ABOUT Ford, at the Ford Motor Company investing board at Yahoo.
It also seems other people always post in the political topics at the board.
Seems to be 2 different crowds of people, eh? Those who are here to talk about Ford, and those who are not.
I know, I know......it's really difficult.