Apple Inc. (AAPL) Message Board

Their NAV also drop because of dilution of NII carryover that was diluted by almost doubling the number of shares over the last 12 months When you have 40 NII carry over and drop it to 21 cents that was not only from paying out more dividends but that wear only 7 ends of it this last quarter the other 12 cents is mostly from dilution.

I hate to give him credit for much except doing nothing to help this country

why can't you believe what the man says, he has said and I have read it that he does this because he wants to offset the pumpers and save the naive people from losing their money. I understand that even though you don't. I did it for 2 yrs on CLF after I got out at 92.5 and only recently turned bullish at 18 before it reached it, I said to buy at 18 which was close to its bottom. I caught heck for those 2 yrs while I argued with people who remained bullish trying to convince people into making bad investments. I agree with Jade give a balanced approach and quit BSing I have changed from bullish to bearish on this stock for many reasons after the last quarterly report. For you to open your eyes and look at the reasons for this bearishness will be your problem but I would suggest you not ignore them. They will affect this stocks price for a while $10.50 or less is coming we have seen it before and we will see it again IMO. Quit twisting the truth to fit you scenario. Are you another democrat in WI stealing the tax payers money through the school district taxes??

and you want to blame this on bush, Obama has made things much worse with QE devaluating the dollar so much that it put all those people on food stamps, you say no, fine but he has been unable to do anything to improve the problem, this is the worst recovery in history and taken the longest. He is antibusiness and that is a fact. A community organizer doesn't create anything he destroys for the benefit of the grasshoppers of society or the parasites

it could be also that they use different names on different boards so that people don't follow them around, I know that is true of several posters on other boards. It is like spam thousands of names and you can't get rid of it easily

i don't make bets that I will pay on but never be paid on, I have made that clear to you that not only by your own admission of an empty bet, I never did or will trust you, you are not a man of your word and you were afraid of putting up the money. I guess I am not a gentleman because I called you out and you failed. Then I call you like I see you. Why don't you stop your bravado and breath and learn to live by what you spout and be willing to back it up. Your scenario of making a bet that someone wont pay off is ridiculous. Why don't you loan me 10 grand and no papers and maybe I will pay you back, In the real world it doesn't work that way no does it at any casino. Try calling up a broker and say buy me a stock and if It goes up I will pay you or if it goes down I will send you what I owe you in two months. You can twist it but it still comes out that you are not a person to be trusted or a person of your word, admit it cheep cheep little chicken.

it took nothing to accept or give that challenge as it meant nothing as I do not believe you would pay and still don't. I asked you to put up the money so I knew that I was betting with an honest person but you don't have 1200 to put up or you felt you would lose it. Accepting an empty challenge is a foolish thing to do and your challenge was as empty as your talk, i was willing to back mine with what counts green and not hot air. So I didn't accept your empty hot air challenge but tried to get you into a real bet with real money, cheep cheep little chicken I don't care what you believe when you aren't willing to stand behind it with real money and not hot air. Why would i want you to dictate to me to sell a stock at a commission I don't need to pay. I would just as soon bet you 12000 or short 1000 shares as then it wouldn't cost a exorbitant commission on such a small amount. YOU still want to put up the money you want to raise it but not empty challenges, you are the chihuahau, you bark a lot but have no substance.

what do you mean the only thing I didn't agree on was taking his good word that he would honor his bet, that is a one way street, you lose but can't win. I wanted him to put his money where his mouth was not that he would honor his word which is worthless, try spending it at my bank. Now if I knew him and had done this a number of times then yes but who is he but a MB blowhard that won't put up, he shouldn't make statements he isn't willing to backup. He offered to do that with all comers then reduced it to me then backed out entirely when asked to see his green.

I wasn't bluffing i called your bluff and everyone got to see it. you wouldn't call the bet in a manner that could be reliable. I do aapl spreads in larger amounts than that just not at the moment as I have it mostly tied up in long term plays in HIG, LM, COP, JAZZ, CAT I hardly ever trade more than 10 stocks at a time. I don't believe in shorting, I think it is unethical and should be outlawed, but I would never short a stock like PSEC because of the carrying costs, high distribution, prime plus on interest will eat your lunch, I play hard and win or lose hard, I have no stock that I don't have 6 figures invested in. I only trade in lots of 1000 shares or more as that is commission free for me. I can trade for exchange fees. BTW I believe in PSEC just not the way you do anymore. I could have told you i shorted just like you told me you would send me the stock but that means jack. If I make a bet I want it to be a sure thing as far as when one loses one gets paid. I have been in the rental business for years and I believe it when I get the check not when you say it is in the mail. Contracts are not valid unless money is exchanged so I was ready and you failed to close. Your betting on the internet is no more legal than my suggesting the title company would hold the money. In fact it is interstate gambling which is a federal charge. You are really naive and I had fun with you but would have closed. I knew you would never honor your squawk. cheep cheep little chicken

boat it is definitely more fun being bullish, glad I could finally switch sides. Still amazing to watch people hold on to false information for their decisions no matter when the turn is up or down. fundamentals changed here and I have been bullish at 18 and stated so before it got to 18. This should give a good return by yearend. if you got in at 18 a 50% return would be 27. I think it makes that easily.

you got more 100s in that 10 gal hat than you can count but if you need them I can send them, give me an address was that wacko, texas 99999

it was obviously a satirical statement but you are correct too many people misinterpret every little word looking for a way to ditch you. I too thought it was great slap humor. I mean I don't even understand the bother, my account requires me to buy or sell more than a 1000 shares to not pay a commission on any stock I do including aapl.

it is cheaper today than it was with the dividend yesterday.

might I add thanks for not letting him know that til his time was up so that he couldn't bluff about that. It was fun pulling his chain

it doesn't really matter does it since he wouldn't do the bet. I called and he folded. I am too trust an individual on a message board to pay off on a bet, yeah, I keep my word more than anyone I know and I wouldn't trust me if I were him because he doesnt really know me. I knew it was BLOW and that he wouldn't come up with the money when pressed. I would have bet even more on that. Now me I would have in an instant and I would have spent a lot of money driving the price down on the last day to win the bet even if I had to sell 200k shares in the last few minutes to do so. There are people on this board with that capability whether you want to believe it or not. He is a small player and makes the comments to prove it I play a lot of poker and can usually pick out the bluffers a large part of the time. It is just whether they are bluffing at that moment that is real key. I gave him my email and he never emailed he kept talking but never put up. I have friends in the title business that would have held it not necessarily in the title co but they would have followed the instructions. But you are right except for possibly in the state of Nevada. You would be surprised how many don't know the law. I have had 8 major title errors in my life that were easily ascertainable had they really done their searches. I do an average of 10 to 15 real estate deals a year. You would be surprised at how some title cos are so sloppy and people never catch them. all the way to loans not paid off that are recorded, to improper legals, I got a title for 120 acres in addition to the 80 I bought last yr and they recorded it. Another title person told me about the mistake the week after recording, still working that out with the real estate firm and title co. My request is that they provide me with a survey of what I do own, they were suppose to have given me a legal description to start with as it was farm ground. The 120 acres is owned by a friend of mine

in one hundred dollar bills how much is that, lol

ps no commission if they expire worthless which is why i do puts instead of calls ditm

PS I use Eoption for my trades as the commissions are the cheapest of anywhere $3 per trade plus 10cents per contract and I usually do 100 contracts or more getting me to a half cent per trade in and out.

I am going to be nice and tell you how to make some money real easy in 7 business days with low risk and a 6 percent return for those 7 days. buy aapl may 18th 430 puts and sell 435 puts for a credit of 34 cents it is a $5 margin availability trade with a 34 cent return if aapl doesn't go down 30 dollars in the next 7 business days but with the announcement of pegatron ramping up its workforce for aapl by 40000 workers the stock will probably open much higher tomorrow and you may only be able to do that trade at 25 cents fro a 5% return but then aapl would have to go down 35 dollars in 6 days. a 50000 investment will make you 2500 in 7 days at that scenario. I made 3% yesterday and another 2% today on these types of trades, i used to go further out and less ditm and made literally 7 figures before I got out of aapl at 600. but doing them again now to a lesser degree as I am more cautious as I am retired as of end of last year and only speculate on a smaller scale. GLTU.

who says they are making iPhones or pads maybe it is a new product even though they said there was none in the pipeline or maybe it is a cheaper version of the iPhone with less frills to compete more with android or MAYBE they are finally going to get China mobile and it is iPhones which would be my real guess. It sure has been a long wait.