i would never put in stops, taking a profit is good if you do it for the right reasons, if you do it because you think you are smarting than the market and can buy it back cheaper then you are gambling not investing, you sell a stock IMO when the reasons you got in are no longer valid as in fundamentals changing. TOo many people think that when they buy the stock should go up and when they sell it should go down and that they are able to outfigure the market this leads to trading that rarely works in the long run
we are talking apples and oranges and you are mixing up reports, if you go to thier 8k filed for june earnings and look at where they earned 21 cents per share it is figured on the diluted shares you see in note 3. You cant use the 21 cents of earnings as reported by Yahoo along with note 3 which shows a loss of 38 cents so as I stated and will continue to state the earnings as reported by Yahoo and the company were based on the 98 million diluted shares Please read the 8K filed in june
severthal comments to all comments above
stock price will gradually work up slowly as we see the earnings affect of less taxes, the real news will be when the PBMs cut coverage and what happens to us then, this is hanging over us until the picture clears, Another deal will give us some more headway and I agree that it happens. The new stock that people are talking about is really a non event, it was already figured into earnings and already realized as there. The owners are not likely to be ones looking for a sale, they are in this stock at $5 and have LTG they will be longer term holders and actually cause the short percentage as reported to go down. It iwll help next quarter on less expense and less accounting doctoring. I look forward to ridding us of the rest of convertible At worst the convertible was in 2 or 3 hands as they made no public offer but worked with the individuals or funds that owned them. .
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uptive technology, run by Pera, who is a disciple of Steve Jobs, he takes no salary, no bonuses but does own 60 plus % of the company. Earnings are growing decently
not much this year as yields were high on corn, beans were moderate but not low enough to get ins so I guess you could say ins was a cost factor. but for the previous 3 yrs it kept us alive. My personal opinion is that we would have made more money with a regular crop. This will hurt for awhile even if a drought comes next yr. All of the elevators are full and corn is still in the field, we are bagging some of ours and storing where possible for next years prices beans have no where to go except to the local bean/diesel plant that ADM has here. We will be bagging beans also They cant get any rail cars to get the corn out of here.
I would agree with all the no votes beloyw, add to it that there is no benefit to stockholders to sell below NAV, If they cant make enough money with the stock they have already sold to get the stock price up then why sell and lower value more. They need to get stock price up to get stockholders to want to give them more.
you have a lot of posts and cant keep up with all of them missed the sell at 35.62 or the buy for the sell at 34.81 but if you are trading that rapidly your buys and sells are really useless for anyone that is investing and only make sense to you. I use to trade GS 4 times a day with 2k to 5k shares a trade but the ins and outs where only of value to me not to anyone wanting to take a position.
sorry about this question but the june earnings shows that with all convertible exer cised that we have 98 million shares where do you get the 117.million. AS of the june report we had rounded 73 million shares and convertible would add another 25 million
mjh, my understanding from my broker and acct is that if you exercise your calls you 4 and delay any taxes until you sell the stock and your cost basis is the cost of your calls plus the exercise price plus commissions. Your date of ownership is the date you bought the calls on the stock also so if you bought the calls on 3/15/14 and converted them today your stock purchase date would be 3/15/14 If you bought 1 jan 16 40 call at $38 with a commision of 10 cents and exercised it and the commission for the option and stock was 20 cents your cost basis in the stock would be $38+ $40+10 cents +20cents for a total cost of 78.30 I hope the examples help
thunder is correct, If you plan on holding the stock then call the calls and your holding time begins on the day you bought the calls not the day you converted and your cost basis is figured on the cost of your calls plus your exercise price and commissions and you delay taxes on the gain on the calls. I have some $40 calls that I plan on exercising in January.
does any of you that have been in this stock for longer than a year remember when they didnt exceed earnings and how long ago that was?? I think we beat handily again and shoujld have good expectations with the addition of the oncology drug last quarter and Havoni this quarter for Q4 I am looking for $125 by end of Jan 2015 barring a market meltdown maybe even in december with a Santa Claus rally
that really depends on many factors, it is true that we have a glut of grains on hand at the moment but that glut in the past has always opened up demand. The other factor that is unlikely to be repeated is that we had a record crop on low rain levels that came at just the exact right moments on a regular basis. In our area we saw record corps that beat previous yields by 25% on rain levels that were 17 inches under normal. Another dry year without being timed perfectly could give us yields in the opposite direction and eat into that inventory rapidly. HIstory has shown that land prices only go down during depressions so are you predicting a depression or just a bump. farmers will switch out of corn to other crops this year bringing fertilizer pricesy down, so I would avoid fertilizer styocks this year. Corn prices are already higher for future crop years. While I do not see a huge rebound in prices except in the case of a drought, I do not see this years lows repeaC High rent levels will moderate, maybe some marginal ground will return to livestock where it should have been and never tilled. I know I am putting 140 acres of good farm ground back in grass for livestock expansion As far as DE I dont see a big move in any direction as sales will moderate with less farm income and farmers tend to buy when flush in cash and under $3 corn doesnt make anyone flush. They will buy only as absolutley necessary ybut that is already in the stock. but really hard to see it go below 80
and what was that sign of trouble that you speak?? was it panic selling for no reason. That is not a sign of trouble but a sign of opportunity. You have it mixed up
looking at a 5 yr chart it is back in the channel that it has violated only twice in the last five years, it is very good, if you werent in you should have taken advantage of the selloff this month it wont likely happen again for a long time as in years and at a much higher price even then.
I just looked at WYY, you are delusional, it has gone from 25 cents to 1.55 in the last 12 months, it doesnt look like you have a clue. Plus GILD is not a penny stock. It is one of the largest companies around and the likelihood of even a person with Icahn's money taking it down is ridiculous. You had better check into that mental ward or go back on your meds.
this is stan with a new name, since he lost all credibility at the other puts he bought, this guy is as fake as can be. What is a huge short to him, 10 shares or 100000 shares? The word huge has different meanings to every individual and is not defining, Lying on message boards by some is their only fun and games. To pick the best stock on the exchange to short already shows the stupidity of the poster. I would put him on ignore but I have so many that my board is beginning to look like an ignore posting board.