Most golf courses were developed with housing when developed.That is how they paid for the golf courses. There probably is too may golf courses in many places in Florida. I live in Sarasota and you see signs advertising cheap golf for non members all summer. One course I know of has been purchased and will be developed into housing -no golf. Land has gone up in price - they are building every where and all kinds of developments new housing and commercial - even a new large mall. Bubble building again????
formed and now has 5% of shares and would like to grow the %. Any CELM shareholders are invited to join and try and get our money back. Read CELM message board on email address to send information.
CELMOWNERS group now has 5% of the shares joining the group. We would like to get a higher % of shares. If you have shares and would like to try and get your money back email your information to CELMOWNERS by way of aol. Also read CELM board for information.
We now have owners of 5% of the shares of CELM in the CELMOWNERS group and we are still looking for more shareholders. Please send an email with your information to CELMOWMERS using aol. Also read the CELM message board for information.
Most would say he sold NRZ at a discount - he knows more than we do though! Or does he?
Why are you here posting if you think BB is so worthless? Trying to help your short position!
I want to contact CELM shareholders to see if they are interested in trying to get their money back and join the CEMLOWNERS group. This message board is pretty dead and makes it hard to find CELM owners. The larger the number of shares the group owns makes a big difference....It takes time - I think the SCEI group formed a year ago.
The group involved with SCEI tried to communicate first and I assume the same with ZSTN. They were fore warned. What ever happens with SCEI or ZSTN doesn't automatically mean things are going to change for CELM and the other Chinese companies that went dark. When ever - now or later - CELM will be fore warned when they receive communications from a shareholders group of possible shareholders intentions. Also I may be wrong but an individual is involved with ZSTN and not a group. ...We know how to go forward at this time - SCEI is an example how to start. You may find Robert Seiden and others don't see the value you or I do in CELM and not want to get involved. You might as well find out now - and even starting now will take a lot of time. If you check when the SCEI group started you will see this is a long process. I don't know how time effects the CELM situation but after a number of years there may be no recourse......Anyway what ever you do GLTU
Those that say do nothing makes no sense to me. Every situation may or may not be the same. The more actions taken on Chinese companies that went dark can only make the possibility to get something done because these companies have got by with their actions and are home free at this time. Those that say do nothing makes me wonder about their motives are and if they really have a financial stake in any of these companies. Why would any one suggest doing nothing after almost 2 years of these companies going dark.
I don't know who knows the most on the SCEI board - I do know that I don't know enough..... Some of the best and brightest posters left the SCEI because of the ridiculous and negative personal posts against them. They formed the group that just got SCEI to communicate. Actions got some movement from SCEI.
I see no down side to trying to get CELM to communicate. Please explain any negatives. CELM is in the wrong and getting by with it.
Also- I think even if Robert Seiden could be hired it makes much easier for him if he is representing 5% or more of the shareholders to start with.
Who is going to hire him? You - by yourself! If you mean We it will take an organized group and that takes time and expertise. A straw poll of how many investors are interested in trying to get their money back needs to be done now. It will be a long procedure even if we can get CELM to communicate. If CELM decides to become compliant with their auditing that will take a lot of time and it appears they re not going to that unless forced. I would hope some communication with CELM would get things going. Nothing is going to happen unless we get the ball rolling.