lake once again you spew out your ignorance and hate. You really should consider joing a tea party group lol.
God created all things from the start to now. He formed mankind and gave mankind the ability to reproduce and to have free will and not be robots. Thus yes the same God that created Adam created both me and Trump by reproduction of mankind. What we then do is not written step by step by God. You were given free will to reject your creater and believe in All you can see, feel, hear, smell and taste as just "POOF" it is all there. You also reject the power of evil in the world in the form of the devil and thus you reject the idea of rebellion against God. You see Rebellion around you everyday and certainly on this board but the idea that God would allow his creations to rebell against him you reject. Children rebell and reject the teachings of their parents but God you believe allow no rebellion? A rebellion against God in his perfect world caused the world to be crupted and thus where there was no tornadoes due to the rebellion of the devil and mankind joining him in rebellion the earth and all in it was currupted. Mankind and the devil are to blame for the acts of rebellion. Just as the South was punished (not enough) for their rebellion against the UNION so too is mankind and the devil being punished. I would hope that even you believe in the cause and effect of things in the world the Yen and Yang or whatever you wish to call it. For every action their is a counter reaction is a belief of science which you worship yet you reject the idea that a God could apply that as well.
Just tell me who created black matter if you can? Or did it create itself? Do you worship a self created Universe? You reject a God but accept self creation. Now that is weird.
rje for such a smart guy your post are getting pretty much the same old thing. Can't you muster up more hate than that and be creative? I put you down as a guy like trump that seeks out 87yo women as your targets. You actually take up for him I guess as you can't bring yourself to deal with the issue. But hey one right wing nut job can't find fault in another now can we.
If you think mere money makes a man better than you then I guess humanity has no value to you except if expressed in dollars. Where did you right wingers hatch from?
crooksallover they will not cut the dividend that much but it could be a buck before long and that is why the price of the stock is down. If they keep it at 1.25 which I think they will do for at least another quarter I expect the stock to recover some of the lost ground before the next x date I can see 30 bucks before that x date but I didn't think it would be where it is now. If you holding for LT income then the share price is not as important as dividends. I have been in AGNC long enough that my dividens have more than made up for the stock price retreat. The stronger the eco news is and the higher the stock market goes up the more the chances are that the Fed will change it policies on interest. That is why I feel that the stock price has went down as the future seems to improving better than expected. Maybe some more political #$%$ out of our two bought and paid parties will screw everything up and the eco will crash but I hope that does not happen.
Better eco means higher interest higher interest rate means less a return for AGNC and less dividend and lower share price. IMHO
Congrats to all who bought at the last low prices. It appears that fro has weathered that storm for now and moving up. Congrats Rails as I know you have been buying so I hope this latest bump helps to get you some of your money back. How high will it go? How long will it last? If it drops back down to near 2$ bucks again it would all of been nothing but just another play but if it is building a new base then the game is changing. We should know in a few weeks. No I missed it so not trying to say I got in on this gamble.
It turned when they did the change to book value. Still don't see that as something that was a big game changer but the market or at least traders did.
So tell me something Mr or Ms smart English Major just how good in English do you have to be to know that gettting money from an 87 yo women is something a #$%$ would do?
You may do it as does Trump and both you may be better at English than I am but the day I would take advantage of any 87 year old person male or female is not going to happen.
But of course for a party who's Senate Majority leader has went from having nothing to be worth over 40 million I guess you take money where you can get it right or wrong.
I have to admit that of all that thought about running for President as Republican Trump was the guy I most was amazied how many people would actually vote for the guy. I guess being on TV means something to a lot of people. Not only has he screwed investors in the past while playing the BK card but now it seems he has found a sure fire way to get a sucker on the line. Sell a profit sharing deal to an 87 year old women.
I guess I should wait till the veridict comes down in this one but "REALLY" Trump needs money so bad that he goes after 87 year old women now days? Maybe the lady is sharp for 87. Maybe she trusted what she was told instead of what the contract said but in law verbal promises are binding if you can prove it and just as binding as one in writing. So who you believe? Trump or the old lady?
Trump even says the women is out to get him. I am sure that an 87 year old women sat down and figured out how to go after Trump as her way to pass time.
I guess to work for Trump you have to be able to sell whatever he ask, in any way he ask to whomever he can get money out of. Go Trump fire me but hey I don't take money from 87 year old folks male or female rich or poor. My daddy raised me better than that too bad Trump Dad didn't succeed in raising up Donald to be a better man than that or maybe that is who taught him his skills?
Now all you right winger run to defend the Donald. Who knows maybe the women is a Demo lol.
lakeebarb I am practicing what I read yesterday so I will turn the other cheek for you to vent more hatred and rage if that makes your day be my guest :)
Goldy while "your personal" information speaks one way the FACTS tell another story.
Germany's life span is longer than the USA as is Canadian life span. In fact the USA ranks very low in life span when comparied to Western European Countries and the UK.
We have a real doctor shortage in this country as even the AMA admits. Why? Simple because a specialist makes more money than a GP. In the US health care is all about money and the doctors figure that out fast. Why be a GP and make 200,000 a year when you can be a specialist and make twice or more that. Now we see NP being used to add to the larger GP practices to get more cattle through the money machine and do you pay less when you see a NP or a PA? No you do not. In Texas our legislature is going to fix the doctor shortage in the rural areas by allowing a NP or PA to practice without a doctor being in the building to oversee or drop in for a second opinion. You call that good do you?
You wave the old waiting list like it is only found in Canada. It is not. Depending on who you want to see and where you live in the US (just as in Canada) you will wait for a chance to see a specialist. I waited a month to have my eye checked after an ER visit for pain in the eye. I went to a eye glasses place and had their almost Dr. look into my eye to see if I had anything that their machines would show and he came up with correct cause and treatment that the Specialist did 3 weeks later.
You point about American Medical treatment is all depending at least before Obama care on your assumption that ALL Americans have money or insurance which they do not have.
I know many folks who are on medicade or disability and they wait a very long time for their
"Free" treatment and only at Hospitals that folks with insurance or money will not go to . Our Vets are also shoved into a Vets medical system that they wait for or travel long distences. Again same reason MONEY. Medical = Money in USA
#$%$ thanks for the answer. I do think the last person I talked with was wrong on how she figured the shares and she did find a date of May 24 but she said that the LAST day to buy the stock was in fact the day I was talking to her. I was totally bumed out by the confusion and dates and just throw up my hands and gave up.
I think I will make one more phone call to Vanguard in AM and see what kind of an answer I get this time best 2 out of 3 wins lol. Anyway you cut it I do think to still own SSN at this time is hope that at some time in the next 4 years the price will be above that .79 cents warrant. I will keep my shares and see what happens and if I get the right info or 1 warrant for every share you excercise I will add all I can. I also agree with you on the price issue which both of the folks I talked agreed with as well. Lets hope for that buck a share for a nice double or more with warrants.
dakine while I loved Europe and would choose it as the place to live if not for family being in the USA I am not sure the average person can afford to enjoy the quality of life that Europe offers. They live different than folks do in the US. Cars are not a MUST have nor is a huge home for two people starting out.
Most American's who go around thinking they are God's chosen people and nation have never been to a foreign country. Thus they have not seen the poverity of a thrid world country nor the benefits of the countries listed in the top ten. In short most American's are brained washed, egoist, ignorant and happy to stay that way. They resist any kind of change as some kind of conspiracy to do them harm. Health care being the easist examle of stupidity enjoyed ONLY in the USA. A system of health care for a whole nation of over 300 million people that is based on getting that care only if you are rich, have insurance or poor enough to have the Gov. take care of you. The mere fact that the USA alone pursues this type of insanity health care system which is much more expensive and no better than certainly Europe and Canada is a prim example of how a lack of knowledge and understanding of how other countries do things better than the USA and yet American's can't see it. Mass transporation is another example. Not just buses and trains but better highways and a road system for walking and biking that links most of Europe together. Europeans do value that more than they mind the taxes to pay for it. Clearly Europe values quality of life more than the materialism that controls the so called "American Dream".
Sadly it seems that in America today 35-45% of the population equate quallity of life with how low taxes are.
There is no cure for ignorance. I suppose the folks in Detroit and the poverty areas of Ky, Va,WV,Tn, NC and SC all think that they are better off than those in Europe lol.
For now the news is out about the meeting. So we are back to pre meeting situation with "perhaps" a better situation but the glut still there, prices still down and Mr. F still holds the get out of jail card.
So when do we reload for the next run up sell off? 1.80 was the old bottom price before the meeting news sent it down from highs so will it go back down to the 1.80 range or stay above 2?
Anyone guess is as good as another but for me I want to see it play for a while or drop like a rock in a day of trading with no news before I will fire again. Still could be a good ST gamble if you like making 10% on your gamble. Better than a bank or CD or bonds so 10% not bad.
Have your chips ready and throw the dice. Bottom line FRO = Mr. F no matter how you turn it that is value of this co. Either it stands or falls on Mr. F no braineer.
Lake I think you win the prize. FRO is worth? FRO will not go BK? FRO is being played to death? Given those realities what is the stock worth? Either not much or if Mr F keeps it going and the sector recovers it is at least a 10 buck stock. Between zero and 10 bucks is the gamble.
I called Vanguard today about the offering. I was given a totally different figure for the warrants than they had given me before. It is really hard to understand how an offering could confuse a big broker like Vanguard but either the person I talked to today was totally wrong or the person I had talked too was.
They both agree that the price will be .57 cents American to excercise the sale and the actual price may well be less but not more. They then depart on how to figure the warrants. One said that for ever share I buy I get 8 warrants so 100 shares equals 800 warrants but it takes 20 warrants to get a share at the .76 cent excercise price so the 800 turns into 40 warrants. The person today told me something totally different so I have decided to just screw the whole deal and hope SSN finds a way to hit a buck a share and when they do I sell and move on lol. I have made several phones calls concerning the date of the offering and again according to the person today this is the last day for the options. Who the heck knows.
rje assuming you are a non drinker it is truely amazing how being sober you can post and believe such moroon ideas as you do day after day. You actually believe Obama was born in Kenya makes you an idiot but you go on to say that by lossing 4 Americans in Bengazi which you say was not a terrorist attack but one that Obama caused which shows again your an idiot and finally to show how really stupid you are you raise the GW blood stained hands who DID cause a WAR that took well over 150,000 lives of which 5,000 were American's. I suggust you start drinking and stay drunk since sober your clearly an idiot. Yet you and your kind can't figure out how Obama can win two elections the answer is clear if you had a brain. Obama was the only choice to American's other than elect a guy who thinks like you. Loser thinking.
Dakine it is good for the board too see two "whatever name we have been called the most " lol disagree. One thing for sure from what little intelligence I see in 90% of right winger a machine could sure replace them by only being able to say "NO" " NO TAXES" but for those men who actually think without having Fox or Rush to tell them what to think disagreement means that thinking right or wrong is taking place.
Unless kids are replaced by robots the day will never come when kids will mind and do as told enough to be "taught" by pure instruction programs. I agree that autiomation has improved some things in school but I also question some of the "So Called" Progress.
I do not see doing away with "Long hand" as progress but a dumbing down. I also see the dependence on "Machines" to do math is also a LT sure fire to have a even more ignorant society. Look at what "HOOKING UP" to Foxnews has done to 30% of AMericans.
Just what Gov. job do you see the need for automation? Garabage pick up can be done by less people as the town I came from had a Truck with a pick up arm and you h ad to buy their garabage can which the arm fit around and poof it was gone. A driver alone was needed instead of a driver and two workers which is where the town I now live in has.
The town is not union so you can't blame unions for the two workers. I also have twice a week pick up because the 3 man truck is faster than the one man truck and it is lighter and does less street damage. However on the whole automation is more cost effective but less appeal to voters who let city Gov. know when they are mad. Service is better with the old style so it stays simple as that.
No matter how many new machines come in medical area people are needed to run the and read them. Yes they are less nurses and more "non nurse" workers doing "nurse work" Again I have never seen a union hospital. Law suits I think keep the amount of trained nurses at % they now are. The future?
dakine while automation is indeed a big problem in the USA most of the jobs LEFT are the type that automation can't really hit that hard. The professionals as you point out and the rest of the medical services staff folks across the board. Then we have all the Gov. employees of all the Gov including schools.
Add the medical and Gov and you have the great majority of good paying jobs left in America and ones that automation can't really replace. Then comes the crafts. again what can be replaced is mostly gone but how do you replace a plumer or electricial or carpenter, fitter etc. with a robot? Not for a while.
The Republicans would like to end as many Gov. jobs as they can but once the pain of that is felt then they suffer the political fall out but that takes a while. All the low paying Walmart type retail jobs and #$%$ flippers which is not that much less paying than Walmart again a robot will not work that cheap.
Manufacturing is where automation and slave labor have killed US jobs. Shipping while mostly hurt by foreign flags has also been hit by automation. Some of those jobs if not most could be returned by changing the law to make slave labor not allowable but we in America or only against slaves in this country. We care little how many folks Disney contractors kill, abuse and make wage slaves out of as long as we do not have to admit it or see it in the USA. We care nothing that children are abused to feed our demand for cheap products as long as they are nor OUR children. We live in a nation gone selfish. No hope LT. We have become Sodam and Gomorah of selfishness, greed and no compassion and we will pay for that. When and how I do not have a clue but the day will come. There has to be a HELL for the Disney, Nike and all those who do not give a dam about human life and for us who buy thier #$%$.
rje I do not know what causes your mind to float away from reality and fills with hate but if you did you drank at least you would have a reason for being an idoit.
The job loss was caused by the GW Crash and years of Repulbican policies. The recovery of the US eco from the brink of a depression was done by Obama policies not GW or Republican policies.
Republicans have fought and still fight the idea of any stem into the eco which is the very reason that US recovery has been better than Europe which choose to not Stem their eco as much but now they all have seen the light of facts and joining the USA in trying to grow back to health instead of cutting.
Since you believe that Obama was born in Kenya you clearly are not rational and a total waste of time to reply too as only totally idiots and their followers believe such a lie. The facts are easy to see but you and your kind of wite losser would rather hide and lie. Stock market at all time, Unemployment down to below where GW sent it crashing and the outlook is upbeat. Only place to find gloom and doom is in the Republican Party which continues to major in fear, hate and old ideas that are failed policies but they are 90% party of white males which is very important to folks like you.
I d once again you prove no more than someone who might make almost a middle class living as an English teacher.
You clearly would rather talk about such important things as diagramhing sentences which by the way is no longer done or maybe you write in "long hand" which again is being dropped in our schools. But you sir charge those English windmills and dodge replying to a topic or addressing facts hiding behind what you deem as so important.
You and your right wing foaming at the mouth idiots are not worth my time to even use spell check as none of you ever have any idea other than what Fox news programs into you or Rush and Glen tell you. Had I been a good speller or a good creative writer I may of made more than a D in Freshman English but when I didn't I changed my major from History and gave up being a history teacher and ended up with an accounting degree. Sad to say that being a bad speller and writer cost me my goal of teaching history but I ended up making 4 times a year more than a history teacher so I guess I owe my wealth today to being a bad speller. I also dated a girl who helped me with English and we have been married for over 40 years so I guess having to have "help" in spelling paid off in both affairs of the heart and pocket book.
If you want to impress with your spelling and proper wording do so when you discuss the topic of the discussion you can read and comprehen can't you?
i d the spelling and English man a seeker of truth lol.
Clearly you don't seem to read and understand too well what you read since all you do is repeat your call for the TRUTH about ONE incident. Lets say Obama was the one who was told of the attack or at least reached him within the chain of command within an hour. How much accurate information do you think was known in an hour of the attack? The who was doing it? The how many? What crystal ball do you think the State Dept had to give such answers? When does the Ball pass from State Dept to Defense Dept as clearly a well armed response would of had to come from Defense not State.
So lets assume that State and Defense both agreed on the facts of the attack, the who is doing it and how strong they were and what weapons they had and they then advised Obama with the best info they could get? How long do you think that would take?
Those questions have already been answer by the State Dept and the Defense Dept internal investigation but you and the non experts on the hill want Obama blood not truth or facts and you assume that the Defense and State Dept both full of career employees will all lie for the President or Hilary?
OK so Obama and Hilary knew and made a decision to do nothing more than was done thinking it was too late to save those lives and didn't want to risk lossing others? How much blood of thiers do you want for that judgement call? Now revisit the GW Bush mistakes and answer what Nikk asked you as a seeker of truth. You don't want truth you want politics.