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    Fight Child abuse with a email

    by rogere1946 Oct 6, 2015 12:41 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 21 hours ago Flag

    scs I went to the ILAB webb site and I encourage you to visit it yourself and find out all the good work they do against the child labor situation. I can only hope and believe you see this as a problem that needs some kind of action if you do this agency is the "POINT" dog for the Fed Gov in that area. If you go to the webb site you will see that they give grants to different charities of all religions to work to "help" the kids. I do not know how much their budget now is but clearly the GOP wants to end it or cut it. If they succeed in doing this what is the answer for child labor abuse? To cut is easy but when this is cut no one in Gov will have a budget to the kids or to work with foreign Gov to police child labor sites or do anything. Do you really think this is a "smart answer" to the child labor abuse problem?

    If you do then I am sure your congress man alone with both your senators will be glad you support their action to cut this agency while they all preach family values and deep concern for children which they do not give a hoot in hell about outside of the US were it might cost them votes if their buddies were caught abusing children in this country.

    Go to the webb site and see what will stop if the budget stops and ask yourself 1. do I care
    If you do then 2. What can I do or what is the plan the GOP has for protection of these kids? I am all for protecting kids in the womb just as I am the 85 million out of the womb and at the mercy of greedy abusers of children.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 22 hours ago Flag

    scs first of all your are not an indy not even close to an indy nor am I. There is NO Demo you would vote for for President that has a chance to run if any at all. I feel the same way about the GOP so save the indy claim we don't make that group.

    Obama did want to go at Syria as you said and the GOP being the GOP blocked him for no other reason that obama wanted it so they were against it. No indy's there either. Would things of been better if Obama had went in? Risky at best since IT IS THE MIDDLE EAST. But unlike now Russia was not involved to the degree they are now. ISIS was not involved either at least to be seen. But Syria is a total mess. Al Quada is there is believe it or not more our friend than we view Isis as is Assad now more friend than foe (snap shot time frame) Assad has not went after ISIS and they are not going after him either at least as much as both are going after other rebels. Russia has always been Assad protector and supplier of arms as such their bombing targets are not the same as the "West" was and remains.

    Syria being a total mess and full of terrorist and rebels and all the major powers and Assad is a powder keg of a mess that any mistake by a major player could really get scary fast.
    At this time Syria and all its messes is of no threat to oil or Israel in any real way so why should the US care? 2013 might of been a good time but the "win" would of been fast or cheap in lives and money and Obama might be glad the GOP stopped him. Now the GOP has a real Syria problem having stopped Obama they must now appear to know what to do which they do not. (who does?) Safe way is to do what we are doing target what you want avoid a bigger conflict with Russia or Assad as they do the same and pick the targets. Not much to be gained in that but safe. We could get out but that would be too smart for either party to do. We could go in blast everything to ashes and rule with iron fist. Good luck with that.

  • Reply to

    Sold some FRO today

    by scs_dan Oct 6, 2015 1:49 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 22 hours ago Flag

    Congrats on your sale. I think the trend for next 3 months is UP from here. I do not trust myself right now to do some timing unless we get a huge jump one day then I might sale 25% of my position but be ready to buy back in. I am using FRO as a " tool" to get ride of losses on other stock so I take my profit and buy back in which gives me gains to write off losses and still keeps me in what I think is an upward market with a higher cost value. This has worked for me so far on FRO and with that in mind I have a $ amount that I will unload some shares to take a profit but also buy back in shortly after to not miss what I think the trend to be.

    If these rates stay up where they are now I think 5 bucks is really possible. Once some of the unknowns are known and they are better than some are expecting and with a dividend this stock should finally see above 5 again. Nothing wrong with buying and selling alone the way as I admit I have done but right now I like the next year in FRO. Some correction can be expected but I do not see it going down below 2.75 IF the rates remain above 75,000 for VLCCF and if they stay above 100,000 the stock at some point is going to move up a lot. IMHO

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 22 hours ago Flag

    rick I am not sure what stocks your looking at as all my tanker stock is up but NAT. Strange because Suez is now pushing 40,000 again I can not find any reason why NAT should be going against the tanker market today as ALL ships were up today.

  • Over the past 20 years, the Department of Labor's International Labor Affairs Bureau (ILAB) has helped withdraw 1.7 million children from hazardous and forced labor, including sexual exploitation. Now, the entire funding for these programs is in serious jeopardy.

    As of this fall, Congress plans to cut 100% of ILAB's funding for programs that fight child labor — programs that are hard at work to help the 85 million children worldwide who are trapped in dangerous, unhealthy, and degrading jobs.

    There's still time for you to help change this before the federal budget is finalized. It takes less than a minute: use our easy form to ask your members of Congress to restore this essential funding and take a stand for happy, healthy children. Afterward, you will have the option to speak out on other things, including the Syria refugee crisis and maternal and child health.

    For 20 years GOP and Demo's have funded this program but now This Congress wants to end it. If you are against Child abuse then let your congressman know. If we have to have a leaner budget off the backs of children then what kind of nation do you think we are? What kind of people have we become? Surely this is not a right or left thing a Demo or GOP thing? Have Children become merely pawns to be thrown away in our political games and self greed? Wake up before we end up even doing worse things.

    For those who are concerned about the life of the "family" do you think this concern is not shared by the families of these children who are at risk to being nothing more than cheap labor? Would we allow this type of treatment to American Children? I suppose we would given how many want to take food stamps way from American Children but for those that still value the concept of protection of the young if not now and if not us then Who and when?

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 6, 2015 12:05 PM Flag

    Mr BS you sure put a lot of stock in ONE MAN article. Demo's are not that much different than GOP Mr. BS just how could one man word move you to vote Demo or not vote GOP? Your ideas are hopes not facts.

    Demo's are like GOP's as any Demo is better than any GOP that is what our great divided has gotten us.
    I pity the poor Indy voter who has to look forward to having zero impact on who they must choose from and then holding their nose and voting for the one less likely to harm them or do the least harm.

    How one guy "claims" that Mrs Clinton is liked by SS agents is not high up on their radar is my thinking but clearly is on yours. Your a mere mud raker in your soul and grasp at anything bad about those you dislike.
    There seems to be enough coming from the mouths of those running which is factual as "They" said it and that is worth debate. As the middle east heats up you boys on the right will beat the war drums louder and louder but most of the country is SICK of middle east wars. So beat away. Let us go to war with Russia over a nation like Syria that is so fractured in political parties that we find ourselves trying to figure out which terrorist group to back or fight. Russia like the dictator which we once hated but even now find a better choice than ISIS and at least one other faction. Syria is a country eating itself up with Russia and the world powers trying to find the biggest piece to save for themselves but who that might be is easier for Russia than the US but who cares? Give Russia Syria and let them once again bog down in the middle east that is what killed the USSR after all. It will kill the US if we continue to try to figure out which nut job to back. SA, Jordan and Israel belongs to our side as does Egypt still the rest are all in play. To let Russia have Syria to play with and spend money on should keep Putin busy for a while. I think those issues plus the eco may be a little more important than one man's yak yak.

  • Reply to

    5 year projected dividend....

    by bluhorseshuluvsnfi Oct 5, 2015 8:22 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 6, 2015 11:51 AM Flag

    nikk I admit I have not thought about or done any math on the 5yr out dividend return but in the shorter term the first dividend paid will be interesting. It will show not only available cash flow, profit but a lot of unknowns at this time from FRO2012 merger. I have been wanting to see at least a .10 quarter dividend. The average rates of the quarter will be a factor of course and to me the one that I most follow. The rates for this quarter has been fairly good and overall should not be a lot different than the last quarter give or take a little.
    I see those rates as the "bench mark" of FRO dividends down the road. What they will be and how long will they last. Going 5 years into the future is beyond me at this time as for as investing in FRO for that type of consideration. How FRO decides to "spend its profits is the real question. How much for new ships? Will there always be a "hunger" for more ships that bring in more revenue true but more debt as well making the play "risk factor" go up. We have FRO in the past follow that model. Big dividends big debt and crashing rates. NAT followed a more conservative approach and had you invested in FRO and NAT 5 years ago I am sure NAT would of proved the better investment over that time period. Oil seems to be on the rise again and it seems that SA is for higher prices and depending on the "speed" of the increases and how steady the increase line proves to be that will effect the storage of oil as well. Iran, Syria, Russia, ISIS, Iraq all big questions moving forward. 2016 elections could indeed change the hand on the trigger reaction from a avoid if possible to a fast pull and be dam with outcome. The world my be gone in 5 years and I certainly so I will look 3 months or so at a time for now. I hope for .10 a quarter next and will take more lol if less then I will be disappointed.

  • Reply to

    OT BS Feeling a little paranoid lately

    by barbershores Oct 2, 2015 6:59 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 5, 2015 4:37 PM Flag

    dakine just put Mr. done as one who wants the US free market, capitalist system to be free of Gov rules and regs and laws so they can abuse children like Asia does, Abuse women and be as racist as they want.
    All available in 3rd world buy your favorite Gov treatment program. Forget clean air and water he doesn't care about that as much as he hates the Gov. He doesn't believe a little child abuse is a big thing. He sees nothing wrong in paying women and blacks less than white men. Many Asia countries today will be glad to take all the Mr. BS of the world and let them abuse kids, women and whatever race the ruling powers are not as long as they are paid well to look the other way and pay even better and they will send an army with you to make sure all do as desired or be killed. Nothing should interfer with the making of capital and the only good Gov to Mr. BS and his kind is the kind you can buy or own. I just wish they would all move to asia lol.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 5, 2015 2:59 PM Flag

    scs I quote published facts and not some ravings of a left winger or right winger. I encourage others to look up facts and do their own searches so not take my word for anything as I did on the gun crime rates comparing Canada to the USA. Any fool can put anything they want out as "truth" and any other fool can quote them and try to use two fools to prove something. I again repeat my question that I asked any of you right wingers to answer. Show me a site that shows any nation with strict gun laws that does not have far less gun crimes than the USA. Since the USA is not a 3rd world country yet apples to apples was my only qualifier.

    I offer you your chance to site FACTS to prove me wrong as I have looked up the states but choose not to do your work for you or try to be accused of "hand picking" the states I show. I could just find some left wing nut job to "quote" like mr BS loves to do but instead I offer you the chance to PROVE your point with FACTS.

    You up to the challenge or choose instead to run and hide which is what you usually do when you fail to have any facts like your charities can do it all line of crap. Show me some sites that back up your claims with numbers not just your opinion or some other right wingers opinion. You will not because you can not.

    Worse details to be on? Depends on what you call worse. Lady Bird spent over 300 days a year out of the US at all 5A resorts and hotels. The single SS agents loved the detailed married guys hated it. RR had a "retreat white house" at Palisades Cal. and any SS agent (GS-12) that had to transfer to expensive living in CAL hated the detail as it cost them more money and no raise. Marget Trueman stayed in her home and agents that covered her went to college off shift to get degrees and she was a kind old lady that rarely went anywhere and had no state visitors and no one was out to harm her. How do I know? Unlike you or BS I knew, worked with and talked to many SS agents.

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    OT BS Feeling a little paranoid lately

    by barbershores Oct 2, 2015 6:59 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 5, 2015 1:06 PM Flag

    buster exactly when did the SC make Christianity illegal? Lying is a sin buster even if you direct the lie toward what you think is evil. "Christians" like you shame the cross with such statements. No one is being forced to "give up" Christianity for it being illegal. No one is being forced to marry someone of same sex.
    No one is being forced to preform a marriage between someone of the same sex. In the keeping of individual freedom and freedom from religion some people have been given the right to get married by the SC.
    That is not the same as making Christianity illegal as you Lie. Yes Lie. Repent of that Lie I suggest

    Rome did have Christianity as an illegal religion and yet Paul and Peter both of whom were killed for being an illegal Christian follower said "honor, respect and obey" the Emperor (who killed them btw) so who cares what the Gov chooses to do. Christianity grew faster and spread wider when it was illegal than when it became legal. It had more power when it was illegal than when it has chosen to lay down with Capitalism and share the thrown with Capitalist. China made Christianity illegal during the Mao years and after and the Christian Church in China today is larger than when the Commies took over and made it illegal.

    Perfect love cast out fear I suggest you look toward Love instead of being fearful of legal or illegal for no faith based on it being legal is much of a faith is it? A faith based on the "Two Commandments of Love" is far more powerful than anything good or bad that comes out of the SC. You really do need to calm down and think about what you say and the power words have and make sure your words are truthful and line up with scripture. Jesus is still Lord and the Family of God is still intact regardless what any law may say. You may have to die for your faith as did Paul and Peter but that is what you were called to do so why the concern?

    Jesus power does not come a SC that agrees with him does it?

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 5, 2015 12:53 PM Flag

    Mr. BS you actually think Mrs Clinton has to respond to every right wing nut job that post something bad about her? You I see assume that the "worst agents are assigned to the Clinton detail". Again based on what do you make such an assumption? Unlike you I have worked SS details and in fact transfered to another Agency to "avoid" the risk of being put on Lady Bird Detail. You have not a clue how the SS works much less how "details are made up but you mouth off as if you did.

    Let me give you a few facts since you clearly have none. Mrs Clinton has had a Detail now since BC left office as do all Former Presidents and their wives. She could of request no detail but I do not know nor do you if she did or did not. She would of had State Department details for security if she did not have SS detail.
    Given the head of SS knows that President Obama is a Demo as well as President do you really think he would assign the worst agents to Mrs Clinton detail? Do you think President Obama and Mrs Clinton both Demo's want any flack between them going into the 2016 elections?

    One guy who clearly is a GOP guy post "his" statements and you take them for the truth and use them to form yet another crazy idea you enjoy that SS sends all its "bad" agents to Mrs Clinton. There also is not one bit of truth in your statement that these "bad agents" would be drunk or on drugs while on duty. The ones that got into trouble were guilty of drinking and being with whores which should make the prime candidates for GOP Senate seats. You are indeed a silly man who spreads unproven stories and then adds your own insults them and when caught you try to pass it off as humor or "just posting what others said". Not even the guts to stand on your own two feet. Show me any proof of these "bad agents" being on Mrs. Clinton's detail.
    Or that any SS agent was on duty drunk or guilty of taking illegal drugs as you say? Slander is all I see from you.

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    OT BS Feeling a little paranoid lately

    by barbershores Oct 2, 2015 6:59 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 4, 2015 10:05 PM Flag

    Mr. BS you are indeed either a very paranoid or someone who has something to hide or maybe both? Or more likely you have an inflated self ego that makes you think that any Gov (other than maybe your local Gov.) even cares a hoot in heck about you and what you think are assets worth seizing. Surely a man like you would know how to keep a low profile? I mean I have read all you bleeding heart post were some poor person managed to target themselves to the scary mean evil Gov by doing something that looked suspicious.
    Surely a man as smart as you know how to avoid putting a target on yourself with the Gov?

    I mean surely you are not stupid enough to say anything on a cell phone that might "sound" wrong to anyone listening in? Surely you would not be foolish on how you manage your cash money? I know you to be too smart to live way above what you claim is your income.
    I could go on and on but I am sure you have a copy of "An idiots guide how to avoid Gov. attention to yourself" By the way NEVER and I mean NEVER put anything into the trash shredded or not. Always burn it the scatter not bury the ashes and since you live by water throw them into the water. Now you do have a danger if as it seems you live by a wooded area. Be very careful of what you say outdoors as every word you say may be the attention of a high tech listening device that can indeed pick up talk inside your home. So again always talk with a radio or TV on and be careful of lip readers hiding in the woods.

    Forget the black helicopters as they are old techno. Think Self Drones. Oh yes if Hillary wins since you have been foolish enough to post on this message board (surely not facebook???) your feelings about her just assume that she has assigned at least a dozen Gov agents to know everything you say and do. Remember was it 43 that died around BC? Who knows it may of been more that even. Or was it Hillary they knew?

    What a silly man you are. Sick? of course.

  • rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 4, 2015 9:44 PM Flag

    Mr. BS I see you are quoting someone again. Do you believe this person? I am sure you want too given how you feel about Hillary. Just because you read and want to believe and of course post this man opinion does not make it true. You can believe it if you want but one man's opinion does not make it factual.

  • Reply to

    Ok Rates now over 100 K highest I have ever seem

    by rami36 Oct 2, 2015 6:26 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 2, 2015 11:12 PM Flag

    rami I am afraid no one can explain anything to you but we have tried it is hopeless.

  • Reply to

    OT BS Feeling a little paranoid lately

    by barbershores Oct 2, 2015 6:59 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 2, 2015 10:54 PM Flag

    Mr bs since when did ONE MAN become the Gov? The guy appears to have broken the law and procedure and no release occurred and he not the congressman is in trouble.

    having one racist on the right wing does not make the whole right wing racist but by your way of looking at things one man makes the whole gov guilty. Lol you are paranoid and not just lately.

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    You just gotta laugh at the GOP

    by lakeed98 Sep 29, 2015 11:07 AM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Oct 1, 2015 2:30 PM Flag

    scs you got to be kidding. It was the Federal Gov who cleaned up the Houston Ship Channel to the state it is now in which is a lot better than when Industry and Business was doing their own policing. The most serious problems still facing HSC is caused by Business lying and hiding facts from the Gov. Then they go BK and stick taxpayers with clean up. The GOP own Texas and OH how they hate being a Gov that takes away people rights or so they claim. But it was they who passed a law that said the people of NO TOWN or County in Texas could pass a law against Fracking. Yet they speak out the other side of their bought and paid for mouths and say that "texting" while driving is an individual freedom and the STATE Gov should not pass a law to make it illegal and it should be the Cities that pass such a law? I guess folks that text do not give the kind of money the oil business does to the STATE GOP boys to protect them from cities and counties who might want to pass a law which clearly would save lives.

    President Carter passed and enforced very strict clean water laws that in a short period of time clean up many of the streams and rivers in the coal states area. RR comes in and ends those laws and enforcement and the streams revert to polluted again. Where was the rights of the individual protected in that? The coal co. have right to pollute everyone's stream or river to make money is all that matters.

    If you want clean air and water for your children and you really expect business to do that under Good will and civic pride then you are a lot smart than I thought you were. There is no free rides when it comes to job safety, clean air, water,. Either you want it or you do not. You will pay both ways maybe one way in money and in the other in how long you and your children live and the quality of life. Do not try to fool yourself into believing that business will on their own "do the right thing" Show me examples of where business on their own acted.

  • Reply to

    got a little bounce

    by railsnstocks Sep 30, 2015 3:19 PM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Sep 30, 2015 4:21 PM Flag

    7% jump in one day is only pink? My My your standards are high. Most would take that for a year of return.
    The rates jump up big time in VLCCF and if they continue to rise or stay where they are you better get out the red lip stick with gloss and eye shadow.

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    You just gotta laugh at the GOP

    by lakeed98 Sep 29, 2015 11:07 AM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Sep 30, 2015 11:55 AM Flag

    scs your funny if it is Mrs Clinton turn then it must be Jebs WAY DUE TURN. Of all the GOP out there how does it feel to you to once again have to vote for a Bush lol. You will make you a bet on that.

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    You just gotta laugh at the GOP

    by lakeed98 Sep 29, 2015 11:07 AM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Sep 30, 2015 11:54 AM Flag

    Ks pro family? As in let a family starve if they need food stamps to eat? Pro life? For the fetus only it seems as they love the dealth penality and they do not want to pay for the child or mother to have health care even while still a fetus and certainly after birth. Pro get a job? That is why they support globalism that sends our jobs overseas and why they do not want to raise the min wage and in fact many want to see it done away with.
    Teach them how to fish?? Really how do you do that when they want to end public schools and no Gov job training programs? Do they wish to take them to their jobs to show them? or take off time from their work to teach them? reduce the massive government. Ah yes get rid of welfare, EPA, OSHA and end all those terrible rules and regs on Big Business that make them hire based on equality or pay based on the job not sex or race or do away with the labor laws. Yes they are all for those things indeed they are. Are they stupid?
    Some are but the ones with power are most certainly not stupid but very smart and totally devoted to their own wellfare with no care at all of others. They are supporters of child abuse and all maner of other abuse by Capitalist laws all without any Gov. restraint.

    My question to you is just what laws would you support to protect human life? Or do you feel that someone who cannot take care of themselves deserve no protection at all?

    Stupid no DANGEROUS is more what they are and the funny thing is that most of them or dangerous to themselves and their kids. As the majority of them or not in the top 20% of the ruling class that is against all that you are against. No Ks if you are part of the top 20% then congrats but look out they will next want to reduce that number to 10% then 5% as do all 3rd world countries. The great hope of the white man is that the GOP will save them and keep them elite but in fact they will in time reduce them to "poor white working trash".

  • Reply to

    You just gotta laugh at the GOP

    by lakeed98 Sep 29, 2015 11:07 AM
    rogere1946 rogere1946 Sep 29, 2015 11:29 AM Flag

    lake you do not understand the mind set of a huge % of GOP voters. They are about 25% of the GOP voters that do so because of their strong religious belief's. That does not make them greedy or racist. The truth is that once the Demo party had most of the religious vote in the US as they championed most of the "rights"movement that attracted religious voters. Today the sin of abortion and homosexual acts brings them from the Demo tent to the GOP tent. I am not saying I agree with the embracing a party (GOP) that does in fact base it core belief on greed and protection of the rich at a cost to the poor but understanding why people vote the way they do is important if you want to beat them. The GOP right wing is as blind to truth as you are by your post. They are racist that will go with whatever party appeals to them the most. Today that is the GOP. They are gun rights nut job that do the same and clearly the GOP is their party. Lots of American's that want stronger gun laws vote GOP lots who do not want to see homosexuals discriminated against vote GOP. Lots that are poor and need higher wages, safer working conditions, job protection also vote GOP.
    Emotions seem to decide a lot of votes today and the GOP is far better at appealing to emotions than are the Demo. It is easier to point a finger at the illegals and brand them "the problem" than to appeal to embrace them as the pope pleaded. Many American's are scared and the GOP has lies that tell them what they fear is caused by "liberal ideas" and again the Demo have no FDR to tell them that all we have to fear is fear itself.
    The Demo's do a terrible job of "marketing" their agenda. Sadly a lot of those they try to help turn around and take the help then vote GOP. At most 20% of the voters are rich enough to benefit from the rich tax breaks that the GOP gives to the rich. The other 80% vote against their own best interest or for "ideas" that the GOP plays too.

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