Mr BS once again shows that NH is not the Mexican border and he is clueless about the border and how it works Mr.Trumps Great Wall of Mexico fails right off the bat.It assumes that the GOM or the Pacific will not be used by smugglers to get warm bodies into the US. Mr BS then thinks you build a wall and walk away from it unmanned and poof the smugglers give up and stay outside the US. Why don't you take a look at where they have the GREAT GW BUSH FENCE (a total failure) and see how many Border Patrol roam up and down that fence line and all the electronic surveillance that goes along with trying and failing to make the Great Fence worth the billions poured into it Now Mr. BS wants you to believe that the GREAT WALL will work where the GREAT FENCE has failed to work. And he actually wants you to believe that less not more human and electro will be needed on the GREAT WALL.His idea that all the illegals will leave the jobs they have in the US as after all the right tells us that illegal are taking all those jobs while they also claim they are getting all those Gov handouts for not working. Wonder which it is lol have to have a right wing brain to make that kind of logic work. The VA is suffering from all the cuts that GW Bush and the GOP did to it by not increasing its budget while over burdening it with all those GW BUSH War injuries and mental conditions that GW War caused. Maybe up in NH Mr. BS has dreams about the Mexican Border and all those fleeing illegals that will FEAR the GREAT WALL but down here where the border has been a part of Texas life for hundreds of years Mr Trump and all the right wing kings men are not going to defeat the border crossing of our Hispanic's to our South that comes as long as GRINGO RIGHT WINGER BUSINESS MEN hire them. Breaking the law of course when they do it but the mighty God of Capitalism must be served first and always so come on Illegals the Great Wall will fail we promise. Greed causes it Punish greed it will stop
On this board there was talk about buying two VLCC ships for around 26 apiece and those ships were 6 years newer than this ship so on surface looks like a 6 year upgrade and one more ship for a couple of million for those 6 years. My question is why would FRO pay to lose a ship that they charter? The only reason I see them paying is that the ship for whatever reason is on the spot market and not chartering that well due to its age. Otherwise SFL should be paying FRO not the other way around. But this is more of Mr. F move the checkers around on his board. The devil is in the details but SFL has been going up while FRO been going down. I just hope that Mr. F is not planing on another "Merger" between SFL and FRO that the market will not understand or pay for. SFL has been the best of the Mr. F companies to invest in since it was created so who knows maybe one day the baby will be all that is left it sure has grown up fast.
If rates set the price of stock on a daily basis today we see rates down and NAT UP nice. FRO barely up.
Nat has paid their dividend so not a run up to payment just a run up. FRO which will declare and pay has so far shown no real sign of a dividend run up. I know we all are expecting it. And even if it stays at .35 cents the run up should take us above 8 bucks so time to buy looking for that 3% run up to sell and pick up a fast 3%? To low maybe for real gamblers. Time will tell. 8.25 IMHO tops with a .35 dividend and not over 8.50 unless we see .50 cents which I do not expect.
nikk the GOP says they are looking out for the poor who do not have that much to invest. The middle class and lower is what old Mitch said. If you believe that I suggest a cheap bridge that can be bought on the cheap.
They are on their knees before the banks and brokers as usual taking a dump on those low earners by not wanting to tighten up the whole scam of financial adviser most of whom operate by selling stuff that they get a cut for selling. Then if it goes belly up they have no liability to their clients. They are not even required to disclose how much they are getting paid to push the stuff.
On this board I have even those of the right wing brag about how they avoid the "for hire" advise of financial planners because of the cost. Mutual funds are a perfect example. You can get fee free and low maintance cost mutual funds through Fidelity or Vanguard and hundreds of others or you can give 6% a year to some
"smart manager" to invest your money. It is not the Raymond James type ad visor I am concerned about as they are up front about the "cut" they take and IF they guide you to only RJ products that will be all you pay and RJ and the adviser may get a cut unknown to you but not as much as the "OFF LINE" products that will be pitched to you by even RJ advisers and the independents "advisers".
Hey next the GOP boys who are so conccerned about the small investors will say the same thing about banks. Why should they have to disclose as it will cost them money and they will pass that own to investors sniff sniff. What a load of crap. Just how stupid are the American people? Dirt Dobber stupid that is how much but the lower wage earner GOP supporter would rather buy another gun than invest in their retirement as the Demo have SS for them when they retire if they live that long. Poor financial advisers need the full weight and protection of the GOP and that money the get under the table will go to the small investors lol.
What a load.
samps lets see you do not believe in global warming, you do not believe that blacks were used as Guiana pigs for medical experiments and I am sure you believe that the Indians at wounded knee all committed suicide and the calvery was wrongly blamed for that killing field which was no different than other murdous attacks on Indian villeges which was Custer's speciality and was exactly what he was doing when he underestimated the number of warriors since he excelled at killing women and children and the old.
He was following US policy to get rid of the Indians so rich gold interest and railroads interest to claim the land that by treaty (LIES by the US Gov. and every one broken) Indian land.
Wow you are an amazing smart man lol. You could be a skit on SNL.
scs for whatever reason HC used a private server she was not the first Sec of State or Defense to do that Do you also accuse the GOP violators of the GW Bush administration with such use of private emails? As for as law breaking any time any classified document (classified at the time) would be sent over a private email system it would be a violation of security regulations. Not a crime but a violation of security procedures, rules and regualation.That is regardless of what party the person with the private server belong too or what party the sender belonged too.
You guys like to suggest that HC was the first and only person in the Gov to do this and that she had deep dark criminal ideas on it which is not even been alleged by the GOP House committee.
The house committee has caused the release of more classified information in order to make HC look bad than her private server ever did There has been one even statement that her server or those of GOP Sec before private servers ever got hacked or TS infor got out of the approved eyes only person This whole thing is what you right winger cry about the most. Too many Gov rules and regs the thing you hate the Gov for the most is at best what HC and GOP Sec have been guilty of maybe violating. Nice to see right wingers actually seeing how import and needed Gov. regs and regulations are but I guess only if it is HC they are saying did the violations.
The sad truth is that the Pentagon & CIA computers have all been hacked before. My records were hacked from OPM and the only records that got hacked in OPM were those who had a security clearance so tell me that was not targeted. If you knew how hackers worked you might understand that their is some defense from an attack from having your account in a place not known or expected to be such as a private server. Some private servers have as much security as those hacked CIA files and top Pentagon computers as well as NSA who are the comp. experts for the Gov.
samps you can't respond because your agruement is without fact. 100% of all the science community are in the pocket of the Gov. Wow you are just plan stupid. No need to talk to a man who is so nuts that having any form of a conversation is useless. You just run along you and wife and kids and go hide under the bed before the big bad boogie man gets you. You claim to teach your kids to listen but don't believe? Believe old Dad when he says that the scientific community is all corrupt working for ALL THE EVIL Gov. of the world to scam this global warming thing. What a nut job you are. The science is not settled you say? 95% of the experts think it is but you know more than them and they are crooked lol. You are what passes as a responsible person of the right wing community? There all out to get us. The Gov of the world are all in it together the Communist, The Capitalist, The Muslim's the list of everyone out to get you and Lie and deceive what YOU know is true. You being such a well known climate experts with many degrees and years of reasearch which is all done in your garage and backyard and not paid for by any Gov. You actually are mentally ill. You need help you and all the other right wing nut fobs that know more than the corrupt experts who are controlled by all the different Gov the world that only work together to put out lies on Global Warming. Does the word Paranoid mean anything to YOU? It should since you are the poster boy for the word. There out to get you. They are all crooked, They don't know what they are talking or lying on purpose. The Gov of the world are out to get us all on this issue. How do people like you get so stupid?
oropan I am glad you come out and admit that you support convicted criminals and mentally ill being able to buy a guy without any conditions at all. That is why the word INCOMPETENCE is interesting. To you Ms Clinton is INCOMPETENT because she would support the present law that makes it illegal for a convicted criminal or mentally ill person to buy a gun any type I suppose. If the election comes down to a vote on just what is position about guns is INCOMPETENT then HC will win by a landslide.
Since I have served in the milliliter and was in the militia for 10 years after I got I would support going by the Const words that in order for ANYONE to have a gun they have to be a part of the standing Militia. Join up be trained for war and be like the Israeli people who are in such an armed militia.That was the idea of the Const writers to protect the country from another war and not being able to have a fast and armed Militia to defend it.There was no standing Army or not one of any size to fight a war and the need of an armed Militia was the cheap, easy and effective answer since most who fought in the Rebellion were Militia and self armed.
You can have a hunting weapon but unless you pay for a license you can not hunt. If you do hunt you must obey the game laws of the state you live.If you have a weapon for home protection the weapon has to be in the home to be used for such. If you are a member of the armed Militia then you must be trained and ready to serve much like our Reserves and National Guard men and women.They however are not allowed to take home the weapons they are issued and trained on.
The SC has found that the Gov does indeed have the right to restrict your idea of anyone gets a gun and can carry it anywhere they want.The laws impose what most agree is a responsibility alone with the right to own.
Red States the idea of responsibility is changing and the law now in some require a gun be permitted in All State owned building. Who is Incompetent?
samps you are so wrong it is hard to know where to start. To be a good teacher the more you know about a students family life the better the teacher is to help the child.Teachers have a legal responsibility to report any sign of child abuse to in Texas the Under paid Child Protection Agency who being underfunded by the GOP that runs the state will add the abuse child to a long list of kids that are most likely abused but the state does not want to pay the money to investigate such abuse.The teacher and the school becomes the first line of defense for that child A good teacher will at least TRY to help.The GOP may not care about the lives of abused children but a good teacher would. In Texas school books speeches by Thomas Jefferson was taken out to add speeches by Jefferson Davis. So I do not defend everything that a school dist. does or the state do or a teacher does but when 95% of the scientific community believes in and studies GW as real then your protest about kids not doing as the science of the day is doing is more political than learning. If you want your kids to grow up and be nice little right wing robots like you then i am sure you will be happy with your ways of dealing with things.As I stated I see it as a great opportunity to look at what 95% of expert consider a major issue and discuss and debate it. which has already been done within the Scientific field and the outcome is what now appears in text books. My problem is that text books are slow to change and 40 years from now with more evidence and knowledge the "experts" may have a totally different idea in a lot of areas of GW and the text books will not change and reveal all that is known. That is why the internet is so important to schools as when knowledge is expanded that changes immediately and no book can do that.
You are one who has chosen to resist the change that science has accepted and want schools to follow your ideas and not those of experts. Glad you do not home school.
while I agree the RS hurt the price of stock at least up to now I would not call it the kiss of death. I guess my point was a dividend player and they are plenty of those should be looking hard at FRO at today's prices. This quarter and the next are by dividend hunters at least look pretty safe at the old .35 rate. If FRO does not meet or better that .35 cent dividend then I think your point of not trusting them is valid as much as MR F would be making a decision not to care about those who invest in FRO for an investment stock. You could buy FRO today hold it until the dividend comes out and sale it before the dividend paid out and make my guess is 3-5% on a ST gain. That to me is the ST gamble that looks pretty good.
Lets face even at 2% gain that is 8% a year and where going to get that without risk? This stock trades like and is a commodity stock. If an investor understand that and hops in and out the price today is begging for a gamble. RS and lack of trust factored it I still see no way that to buy today and sell when rates go up at the end of the year will not make you some nice %. No one is talking about a LT hold. NAT would be historically the way to go if that is the LT gamble you want to take. IMHO.
oropan so let me ask you a question you think that it is unreasonable to restrict who and how one may have a machine gun or saw off shotgun? You for allowing felons having guns or mental cases as well?
I will let you answer if you think those laws which are on the books with bombs, tanks, 50 cal machine guns and other weapons of war all being illegal or a very restrictive way to own and possess them.
Freedom of religion to marry as many women as you choose maybe? To have slaves as part of your religion?
To reach a state of spiritual awakeness by using drugs? Freedom of speech to threaten the life of others?
To yeal FIRE in a crowed building? To sit down next to your wife and child and use abusive and sexual terms directed at them? Are those the type of Freedoms you want to protect? you seem to believe that
freedom comes without any responsibility at all. The second amendment is concerning the keeping of a well armed militia and does not mention slaves or women owning guns at all. Your only about 250 years behind time oropan with you idea of right to bear arms. Do you think they allowed Indians to walk around bearing arms?
Do you really even understand how silly your argument is? About 25% of Americans agree with you so you have a lot of not very smart thinking when it comes to little or no gun control. Freedom of Religion I guess you support the Muslim's right to follow sharia law with women covered from head to toe? I doubt that but with you all things are possible I guess. Muslim's not being allowed into the country but those that are hear can buy and have guns otherwise it would be unreasonable restrictive laws against them lol. What a silly man you are.
since buster has me ignore and claims it has been a year I know he is either very fast with time or just another right wing liar. Poor buster driven to name calling as lack of intelligence leave him not much else to do and if I was really mad at poor buster I would name call him and make up lies about a drinking problem which he does not have he is merely a hopeless right winger with facts or the ability to debate he puts those who shame him on ignore and runs off . Name calling and putting anyone who disagree with him in the no hard work group and the easy way out crowd.
Angry who me nope I feel nothing but pity a guy like buster.
samps there is a big difference between putting school books in the hand of kids that are full of false hood. I suppose you want a course taught on how the earth is flat? I have no problem with the book covering the idea that their is no global warming as pictures of glaciers will prove that wrong as well as other factual data and the proof that alone with global warming increasing so was man pollution of the air with known causes of global warming. I guess you don't believe in it maybe you should go back to school and learn something since HS students know and understand more than you do lol
Not even a chance to lock in at least a 18% dividend is helping this stock move up. What will it take you have to wonder does the MM boys have that much control. Is there risk is that the reason? Always risk in a commodity business which tankers are in reality but much less today than when the stock was much higher than today. They make money pay dividend and the stock goes down not up. No one is seeing a gloom and doom future in tankers for the next year or so more pressure as more tankers enter the fleets but demand is going up not down. Even while in more supply that demand for oil demand is still rising thus the need to move more oil which is the bread and butter of tankers.
If FRO does nothing more over the next year than to pay out the .35 dividend at 9 bucks that would be 15.5% dividend which is better than most out there and the DS price of 10 bucks a share would yield 14% so if FRO keeps on paying out even .35 dividend for several more quarters the price of the stock should go up. 9 by end of year is more what we should see and when in Nov & Dec rates go up who knows the long awaited 10 bucks lol.
oropan just what state do you live in so we can verify your claim? You are correct that more die of sucides each year due to using a gun. If we had a waiting period and better ways to check to for mental illness this number would go down. A few days while waiting to buy a gun might help the depression to ease or meds to correct the problem but you are not even interesting in supporting that for the mentally ill who die with the help of a gun. Spare me that they would just find another way you can not know that at all. How many lives being saved would support a 3 day longer waiting period do you value lives more than getting a gun? Or going to gun a show buying one and then killing yourself as has been done? How important is those lives to you or do they not count?
dakine no no the Ukraine is a dangerous place for rent a cabin I think Japan would be better cheap land alone the coats with beach access and what a view. Ground level opportunity for the Nuke lovers they could through in a radiations detector and a special suit when wind was not favorable for getting out and still make a KILLING. No sun needed tor than nice brown tan that comes with the slow burn effect.
buster down to name calling again I see. Glad to see your so concerned about wild life and I am sure would support the snail darter to stop those dams lol. Your a phony buster tell me why do you really hate solar and wind?
chuk I would say next door to a NUKE plant or a oil or chemical plant but hey I get it your afraid of the sun and wind and that is why you stay under your bed in fear with your guns I guess.
Mr BS the post and run expert is at it again I see. I have seen him admit that he believes in Global warming and man's part in it. He likes to be considered a thinking man on this board and debates GW and man's involvement in a not much or anything we can do about it brain storm of defeat. Now he has a post that wants text to teach something that he has studied and agree with and not teach the ignorance of the other side of this issue. The flat earth boys still live and post.
Mr. scs please do not try to prove you have a working brain independent of brain washing the list point by point the GOP brain wash machine points to be believed.You were raised by parents who were served and served the Gov. and you got the benefit of that yet you cry out against the Gov that fed your parents and you.The Gov also served Big Business that used the canal and not the betterment of the people that the Gov was supposed to serve Your brain saw and experienced that first hand and yet you have instead of personal experience given way to brain washing. You rail against a Gov that takes care of people of the land and yet you want to turn lose upon those same people the power, corruption and unlimited use of the capitalist power of Global giants that now determine eco in our country and world.
The way to FIX our illegal problem or at least improving it is to punish those who hire illegals. Walls of men and steel can not do the job has your brain not looked on a map of the US and saw how impossible it is to Wall off its borders? Are you truly that brainwashed?Do you think our Gov can stand if we turn our back on 50% of the legal population?Let them root hog or die then expect them to fight the wars our nation must be ready to fight? Do you think by going global eco and killing more and more US jobs that OUR GOV will be more able to do anything?To address your own debt did you do it all in a year or even 5 years? It has taken years to build up and assets built up with debt. Let those who use the assets pay for maintaining them or do you support entitlement to users of our roads?Gun Control has been proven to reduce crimes of gun use and violence how brainwashed can you be to not look at the facts?You cry out for a Gov that tells a women she cannot abort and for a Gov that will allow that unaborted baby to starve to death. That is not a well mind at work.FActs show you wrong about min wage as well min wage on exports lol
I see no brain working your post.