You GOP right wingers are clueless you talk about Obama this and Obama that and it turns out that Obama on immigration is only doing what the great hero of the right RR did and also GH Bush.
"Two presidents have acted unilaterally on immigration — and both were Republican. Ronald Reagan and his successor George H.W. Bush extended amnesty to family members who were not covered by the last major overhaul of immigration law in 1986."
Man don't you just hate a set of ugly facts lol. So you right wing boys still want to impeach Obama for what your hero RR did do you?
Mr. Grump you can call what you want but frankly one who can't say Jesus is Lord I do not expect much out of them but bowing to his master.
You boys on the right do not want 4 million people on insurance that was keep off before nor do you want the poor on medicade to now get Gov paid for insurance that will mean shorter waits for medical benefits as medicade folks were at the end of the line before ACA.
Why would you not want to see millions of American's better off under ACA? Easy it cost you money and that is your idea of idealism.
Why don't you tell the board why grump idea of how to run things is better than God's? I mean you have judged God by what you have posted clearly you are even smarter and more compassionate than God it seems you believe or do you believe that the actions of God you posted are wrong? Slavery and muti marriages were never added to the list of thou shout not but if you understand the teaching of the New Testiment (which you and I are under and not the OT) then you would see both are done away with by maturing Christian who WWJD.
WWJD is all that is needed for any decision in life if you want to make the correct decision but you can't call Jesus Lord of you life so WWJD does matter to much with you does it?
dakine The cost of solar cars is still too high for the "masses" and until solar can be "refilled" the car is not a multi use vehicle. Long commutes here in Tex makes using a solar car a risk given traffic and distance unless a plug in at work is available and do you see American Corps offering that? Or parking spaces offering it for free? NG cars have been a reality for over 50 years and still not popular because of lack of filling stations and the loss of space. Same problem with solar. Yes they will be a market but not for the masses.
I agree with you on coal it needs to be a thing of the past but even that will not happen in our lifetime.
scs the issue is indeed a REAL disease and a REAL climate change and HOW To react to both.
The response for the great Ebola scar was not at the advise of doctors and health experts which are and have been engaged in the War against ebola for years but by a bunch of knee jerk idiots some of which were both right wingers and leftist and of course the racist like rje who demanded that Africa be quarantined to solve the problem. The ONE man in Dallas who died had well over 300 hundred people who came into contact with him and only two nurses (who both recovered) got the virus. Had he had a cold or flu he would of passed either on to far greater than two. The women who was the victum of cowardly and stupid action by the NJ Governor was a health expert who knew her level of exposer and correctly stated she did not have Ebola virus but she was considered a liar or stupid by non medical gov. even when the CDC was saying such action was foolish. The General in our army who do not mind sending men to war in vehicles that do not have correct armor or each solder protective gear but on Ebola the big bad General all messed in their pants and ordered there men prisoners for 21 without even being in close area to active Ebola virus. The secl of Def was pressed to make such stupidity military wide thankful the Commander in Chief found some backbone and trusted the medical experts. You boys on the right in here called me Doc rogere but I unlike you boys listened to medical experts and saw with my own eyes the facts of the virus was or was not spreading.
On Global Warming that too is a fact and again over 98% of experts in the field agree that it is a fact.
Over 90% say it is caused or increased by mankind production methods. The end result of global warming will not be known for years down the road so to deny and do nothing today is the way Big Business wants to react and the GOP carries their water. Fact is it is coming.
nikky Federal taxes are at a 60 year low so why the "rage now" Your claim that it is us older folks who have switched from Demo to GOP because of our need to "protect" our hard earned wealth from the Federal taxes most of which go toward not helping anyone but Big business in Defense and banking and other Corp give aways and not people but over 60% those who you so dislike to see your tax dollars go too are either children or veterans do you really so resent those children and vets? IF so I see no wisdom from you at your age as you claim Greed yes wisdom no. Mercy and compassion do not die with age or because of wisdom and it is Greed that attacks them both and the idea that because of my eco situation I am somehow more entitled and better and have a right no care about children and others who need help. Shame you grew old and selfish and greedy since cheaper taxes bring you only resentment of others benefiting from you paying and having an easier life brings you no joy. Love your neighbor as you love yourself Mr. Nikky is not a request but a key to the Kingdom of God. It cost to carry your cross daily and paying your money to help others is one of the easier ways available to help others and be assured that the God of the bible runs the Gov and by the Gov. is indeed helping the children, vets and others who need the help. Your money is well spent on them no need to not find joy in that. God is an idealist Mr. Nikky he gave his only son for us how much more of an idealist is that?
scs why do you feel it necessary to Lie about who is talking about impeachment? There has been lots of talk about impeachment coming from the tea party right before this last election.
For the record Clinton was found not guilty on the two charges that the senate voted on. On the charge of perjury it was 55 to 45 not guilty on the charge of obstruction of justice it was 50 to 50. Given what Clinton WAS guilty of I doubt that even a GOP controlled Senate of today would find Obama guilty on just political objection. Most Senators are lawyers and take the rule of law almost as serious as they do politics and without a clear violation of law I doubt the vote would be even as close as the Clinton charges. I thought Clinton should of resigned
for what he had done (the cover up attempt) but agree with the GOP voters who found BC not guilty of even obstruction of justice. It was a stupid act (again showing that even smart people can do very stupid things) and he should of resigned but even Ken Starr could not come up with a real violation of law stand up to Senate verdict and the house voted on politics alone not by facts of Law.
Had BC resigned Gore would of been president and I think GW may of never had a chance to start the wars he did but we will never know because of the acts of BC.
Life is grand is it not? Monsanto who hid the truth about asbestos being deadly now is a huge player in our food chain and who is their buddy in this? You guessed Dow Chemical another tainted pass when it comes to profit over lives.
Capitalism is so much for the benefit of the people. And all the big Corp players in Capitalism especially food production has showed time and again that they are crooks by price fixing convictions. That is who are letting control our food supply. We are truly stupid but maybe it is because of GMO in our food. Heck at least that would be a reason. I thought the USSR had put something in our water to cause it but given that Corps control our food supply most likely then instead of the Russians. Sorry Russians my bad.
Pass the corn or whatever it really is.
scs just what charge do you see being brought against Obama? Not liking his policies is not against the law.
I think some GOP members those of the tea party right wing nut jobs will bring up impeachment but it will go no where and just like BC it would help Obama and the Demo's if they did.
BC left office at his most popular approval and that after he LIED and did the stupid in the WH. BC is still today the most popular of the ex presidents alive.
You right winger do not like him but the facts are a lot of Hillary appeal comes from the fact you will get two for one.
Jeb Bush for GOP is my hope and lets see if the country is stupid enough to elect yet another Bush for president lol
poor little nikky poo can't talk about the fact that a lot of folks on this list and even more in the country messed their pants on the so call ebola danger. I even pointed out that the Demo Gov of NY was just as guilty but you right wingers just can't admit when your wrong.
CDC the experts got it right and Obama followed their knowledgeable advise while the right on this board as well as the rest of the country became medical experts and ran and hid. rje wanted to stop all planes from Africa what a racist coward no wonder he is afraid of the black man. Big black man going to get and use his cowardly rear end in his nightmares I guess.
So you try to defend the cowards by posting that I posted what I did over the Senate races?
What a yo yo you are. Stupid includes the Ebola scare and yes the GOP voters also are Ebola nut jobs as well so yea they are stupid but so are a lot of Demo's.
Its sorta like the GOP and right wingers standing against 98% of the global warming facts and standing shouting it not real its all the Gore and Demo lies. Being smart and being GOP was not always exclusively hard to find but today it seems you got to be either part of the top20% of the eco class or stupid to be GOP or a racist of course.
In 2016 15-20% more folks will show up to vote. The GOP will have to find someone that the majority of those can vote for or they will lose. If Hillary runs she wins simple as that if she don't then two stupid parties will try to find someone to run that will get the swing voters. Its politics and that is big money, lies, fears, single issues and Yes stupidity.
The Demo's should of spread the rumor Ebola virus had been planted by the Gov at voter places and the scared of their shadow right wingers would of all messed their pants (Ebola system) and ran under the bed.
What a gutless country we have become. A big bad fat former US Attorney like Christie afraid of his own shadow and his gutless behavior mirrored by his gutless Demo counter part in NY city. The CDC was right the bully cowards were wrong. One dead in Dallas and a country terrorizes itself into hype of end of time doom. Both nurses recovered in case you boys are still hiding under your bed. The one they illegally held against her will is fine too. It seems the only stones in America are held by Doctors without borders folks and God bless them as for the rest of you cowards Booo now run hide. Ebola Ebola Ebola going to get you or maybe some kid with a gun at school is more likely to happen in this insane country we now live in.
scs you are so funny in the lengths you will go to try to convince yourself and others that "you and me" can do more to stop pollution than the Gov. How many coal companies listened to "you and me"? How many oil co.s? Auto co? They listen to bottom line not to "you and me" capitalism is not concerned with environment or safety even but profit so you actually think that "you and me" can make more a difference than the rule of law?
If you really believe that they why do you want the Gov. to be involved in border control of illegal aliens? After all it is all the "you and me" out there that hire the illegals. No you and me jobs no reason for them to come across is there? In fact if your faith lies in "you and me" behavior being more powerful than the Gov laws, rules and regs then why have any laws? Just wave your magic "you and me" wand and make everything lovely and "we all get alone together".
You just hate the Gov is your problem so you delude yourself into thinking that "you and me" can take care of all the people that have real needs for medical service no need for Gov health care help just YOU and ME.
You think YOU and Me can FEED and care for the poor not the Gov. Now you add You and Me to solving the environment problem so I suggest we might as well add You and Me to the border problem.
You and Me seem to be mighty wonder workers and should be super heros in movies or comic books if we can do all you claim you believe. I do not know if you are really so dumb or just fly that up as a false basic for you hatred of the Gov. and all they do to make "YOU and ME" life better, safer and easier.
Frankly I know "ME" can't do what you suggest and I darn sure do not trust YOU to be able to do it. As screwed up as the Gov. may be it does get most of the heavy lifting done at a cost sure but the cost would bury YOU and ME and YOU would bail out as soon as you saw how much it would cost YOU to solve just one such problem. You and me lol.
dakine you might want to add to your list
13. How many hundred of billions of dollars will the GOP spend on border security and achieve zero for it?
In Texas the current Governor sent 1,000 or so NG down to the border to do what they were not told and so far if they have done anything not one newspaper or internet posting has mentioned them but Perry in order to make himself look more of a guard dog on the border for his run for President just ordered a lot of money wasted. But hey not to worry the guy who just won the Governor's job promised to hire, train and send 500 state police down to the border. At what cost to Texas tax payers? Who cares he now looks like a tuff guy.
What can they do? The state police ride around in cars and enforce the traffic laws so I guess they will write tickets to illegal and legal aliens down there. They can not enforce Federal law and arrest and detain illegal aliens so maybe Texas is going to make it crime to be an illegal alien and we can start to build more prisons and hire more guards to take care of the hundreds of thousands of illegal that our new Governor has arrested?
But hey all that is going to stop the illegals from coming to Texas and end all illegal problems the state seems to think it has. If you believe that I got some land I want to sell you. But that the mentality that the Governor seems to think the voters believe. He is a lawyer and a smart guy so he knows better but the voters I guess are stupid and see the 500 new cops as the answer just like the fence has stopped the problem? Oh wait we still have a problem after how much money spent of fences and all the high tech stuff to stop them and all the NEW Federal employees? Well maybe one day the GOP in Texas will pass a law to put the people that hire illegals in jail and that might actually stop the flow as no job market means no illegals. But hey that would hurt Business folks and we don't want to do that do we.
Mr. scs honest answers to honest question is too much to expect from devoted GOP supporters I guess. Please list the last environmental law that the GOP put forth and a GOP president signed into law?
You guys are all for free enterprise and capitalism and see any effort by environmental laws as a threat to that agenda. Jimmy Carter passed a very good clean air and water law and RR did away with it. So after that which GOP president protected our air and water? GH or GW?
You want to blame Obama for lack of action while failing to mention the GOP stopping him in every effort he tried. Now either his efforts were wrong or the GOP interfering with them were wrong both can't be right and to say Obama did nothing is to say the GOP wanting him to do something. The pipeline situation is a great example of a water issue that Obama has so far stopped and the GOP wants. While it is fair to disagree on the merits of the pipeline and water quality you seem to ignore that the concern is water and the protection of a huge water source. We breath bad air in Dallas because Gov. Perry exempted plants south of DFW from air standards even though his own air quality board said it was dangerous. Do you believe Perry to be a champion of higher air and water quality for Texans? If so list any bill that improved the quality of air and water while he has been Govn for last decade or so?
You should at least admit that the GOP is more concerned with protecting the profits of Corps than the water and air we have to breath that is a pro business and pro capitalism point of view and with it assumes and tries to say that our water and air are not under threat and are just fine. It was the DEMO's not the GOP that raised the standard on emissions from coal plants that caused both water and air damage and continues to do so. You will not even admit and try to defend what the GOP the party you vote for does but in fact you deny it.
Sorry facts prove you wrong.
James says by the direction of the Holy Spirit " the anger of man can not work the righteousness of God"
Anger prevents love and is a sodding soil for hate. To those who would think themselves to be Christian to hold anger against a man or a type of man or a race is to be in sin as it will prevent the need to love your fellow man as you love yourself. The idea that some do not have to be loved and backed up by our anger at their behavior or action is wrong on our part regardless of what their part may be.
That to me is the demand of carrying your own cross daily. Turn the other cheek, take the offense and pay the bill for those that do not even deserve it being paid. If Jesus says we are to give a thief who steals our coat our shirt as well demands a lot deeper understanding than our anger at the loss of a coat or our demand for justice or fairness. God forgiveness of our sins was not based on fairness or what our lives before him deserves but upon his great love for sinners to be forgiven and saved even while still sinners. God Anger was turned away and satisfied by His Son's death on the cross. Our failure to turn away our anger because of our "rights" or our worthiness and others unworthiness is failing to imitate God desire for our heart change.
Our Pride, or self achievements,our demand for self enhancements and our idea of superior worth over those beneath us defies the wisdom of God and conforms to the wisdom of the world.
No one said being a Christian was easy or would win you the approval of those who follow the wisdom of the world and in fact the word of God tells you that you will be called a fool and looked upon as a stranger in a land that refuses to follow the wisdom of God. Not easy at all.
While stock repurchase seems like a good thing if you compare XOM,Chevron, & Phillips you will see that over the last 2-5 years XOM who repurchases stock every quarter and pays half in dividends has returned less to investors than has the other two. Unfortunely I own XOM so I know the pain. Yes I am making money but not as much as investing in the other two would of done.
Given the very low price of LSTMF I can see a repurchase as good but if they do it at the expense of investors dividends then you will lose IMHO. The dividend can be cut some but down to .03 a month would be as low as I would like to see and frankly I hope they hold it at .04 but doubt it if they are going to repurchase.
Your paying for the repurchase .
Mr. BS you seem to ignore the FACT that 65% of American's did not vote. They are indeed stupid for not doing that but let me be kind to them. Lets say that 15% of them for whatever reasons could not get to the voting places so that leaves only 50% of the voters stupid. The 35% that did vote perhaps 18% voted GOP and 17% voted Demo. ( I am giving the GOP the benefit of the doubt here since no one has posted the popular total vote by party that I have seen) Of the 18% that voted GOP I would think that half of them would be in the top 20% of the eco class and thus voted for their best interest. Of the remaining 9% I would think that guns, religion and racism drove their vote and of course some of the richer 9% also could site either or all of those reason as well plus their own wealth.
For those who put same sex marriage, having guns or abortion above their own financial well being that is their choice to do so. But a lot of them get Gov. money as well as in states like Ky and other Southern states lots of GOP votes come from folks on Gov assistance and I call that stupid to vote for the hand that wants to take away your families food and other kinds of help to rub a gun over you or look down on two same sex folks who want to be faithful to each other in marriage. But each to their own.
scs again where do you see me saying I do not shop in mom and pop stores or eat at small restaurants?
You guys on the right love to put words in folks mouth which you then have your "canned" remarks about.
Most restaurants are now chain Corp's in any big town like Dallas or Houston but when it comes to Mexican food or Chinese or India then Mom and pop are the place and Italian too. Soul joints also but most American cafes, fast foods and cafeteria (if you can find one) are Corps.
Your against min wage, for globalism and of course do not want any Gov. help to people caught in the low wage world you desire. That is not a nice world you are correct about that.
scs I did not ask who you wanted I ask for who you thought could win? Big difference.
So tell me just how many times have you voted for a Demo in the last 20 years? Please be honest about how you vote that would be Christian thing to do.
I do not like the Demo party per say but they do have one thing going for them. They are not GOP.
I am anti GOP not Demo and that I guess is one reason why I feel Obama is a do nothing president while you right wingers run around saying he has done all sorts of things while in Office none of which I can find.
Health care and stem the eco is it for 6 years. But that is two more than the GOP wanted to do.
Do you see my point lol.
Mr. BS I grew up in an America that was for Robin Hood and thought Prince John was a S.O.B.
today America or at least white America seems to dislike Robin and all hail for Prince John.
60% of American's stayed away from the voting places Nov 4th. Come Nov 4 2016 only 55% of them will and Robin will do better.
scs I have never said that ONLY GOP is for Globalism but if you pull up the voting record on Globalism you see that the GOP is close to 100% while the Demos are about 50%. Hillary will be a globalist as will ANY GOP hopeful. Obama should of made globalism his priority in recovery but he did not. He should of followed FDR stem plans instead of giving the money to the states as he did. The GOP fought him on stem packages period and it was GOP policies of stupidity in closing the Gov. and threatening with debt default that caused the US to lose the credit rating which btw did nothing other than show that credit ratings are useless as every Wall Street firm and bank that went broke had a good credit rating.
My point on Henry Ford is about good eco engine growth and you are correct that he wanted to keep his workers and save money by less training and less turnover less sick days etc. Productivity and loyalty at Ford was higher because of pay. Just think how nice it would be to go into a fast food place and not have to suffer some miss order or watch someone try to do an ice cream correctly (how much is a well shaped ice cream worth mmmmmm) due to turn over and little or no training. I went to Target the other day and the only employee I saw were at the check out counter. Wal-Mart is almost as bad. So you would think with so few employees per customer they would want better paid more knowledgeable employees but as long as the check out lines are long who cares if you can find someone in a dept. or even if the check out person can do their job as another low paid person can always be hired and Americans traded in mom and pop stores for cheap china products long ago. We get what we deserve and only us older farts remember the days when a store actually had folks who knew what they were doing and could be found to answer a question. Hardware stores today are about the closest to the old days I guess.