Lake perhaps in your mind (that is a scary area) the term His People means ONLY Parents but in the normel human mind I doubt that is true at all. Especially when talking about a class of people. You often put all tea party people as racist and a racist would be at home with "His People" meaning not his parents but other racist.
To go anyfurther in this is a silly as you will never admit that you erred to try to rewrite what I meant by MY use of the term "His people". You still want to tell me what it means as somehow what you view that term is what ALL should value it.
I do not care when Rubio parents came to the US or what Rubio did with his religion or lack of it. The great majority (not all) of those Cuban's now living in Fla were part of the upper class in Cuba or had direct ties to them and left with them. The HUGE majority of Cubans did not leave and are indeed better off under Castro and would not want to go back to the good old days when the upper class and the mob benefited from all the money coming into Cuba from the states or being made from the labor of the poor. If you have listened to Rubio you would know how he feels about Cuba before Castro and with Castro and it is the voice of the elite who fled Cuba.
I do not agree with what Castro did once in power but how the USA for the last 50 years have treated Cuba given how we treat China, Russia and even Viet Nam is a joke.
Castro is not nor never was the threat that the USSR or China were and Russia and China remain today. They are at best more like Viet Nam and could be used as cheap labor if Castro would allow it which he will not.
rails have you ever been involved in a FOIA request? I have done several. The FBI is not the agency that responds to a FOIA request unless it was a document that is an FBI document. The Federal judge is aware of this or should be. The document of request is processed by the Agency that wrote the report not the FBI nor the AJ office. My question to you is that if all that you post is true and you are only posting what you have read or heard not researched and if what you are believing is true then where is the site that says they are 600 such request and until the FOIA is complete how does anyone know if any TS info is in them?
What you post is simply not possible to be true unless SOMEONE is leaking and you seem to be the only one who has posted 600 so called TS emails and somehow you know from your source that BC ended up with them as well. You also "Assume" that BC was not given permission by the president to discuss TS matters with his wife. Clearly a former president is often used to advise setting presidents on a lot of different matters and I do not know of any former President that would be considered a security risk. If Mrs Clinton did by email or conversation discuss TS matters with BC or if GW Bush discussed something with GH Bush on TS matters there is no way in the world that any criminal charge would be filed on a former President or who ever discussed the matter with them. If you think so then you are delusional.
I have all during the BC time in office and then the Obama time in office heard GOP charges from all kinds of sources which PROMISED a criminal charge or criminal wrong doing and I have yet to see ONE. You are posting what someone has by whatever means told you and you want so bad to believe it that you post it forward. Whoever came up with this info clearly is clueless about how FOIA works. And no TS info is released even to a Federal Judge except in cameron and with very high up approval.
derrick if I had lost a child and was convinced that the death was caused by a lack of action by a politician (which is what the women thinks) I would not cheapen my charge by taking money for my cries against that politician. I would not care about money but justice.
The Truth was that the Ambassador and him alone made the decision to go to Benghazi and ignored warning not to do so. Now one disputes that. No one not even the most foaming at the mouth right winger has ever said that Mrs. Clinton ordered the trip.
It was a bad mistake made by the Ambassador and that mistake cost him his life and 3 others their lives as well. The only REAL issue would be did someone drop the ball and not send help when they became under fire from terrorist. Two committees of Congress have already looked at all the facts and found that was not the case. Those committees were both ran by the GOP.
The fact that the administration got it wrong about what they first thought and released had caused the attack has NOTHING to do with who gave the order to go (the Ambassador) or that relief did not arrive in time to save them. NOTHING at all but politics. What difference does it make that Sid Blum sent Mrs. Clinton email about something other than events of that day? NONE at ALL but politics. NO ONE has said TS info was leaked or hacked from Mrs. Clinton computer in fact her computer was NOT HACKED at all. All politics. So the real truth is this women is being used by FOX just as is the Benghazi committee for nothing but politics. Her son life is being used for politics and for her to make 25,000 dollars. She took the money and that leaves her open to that charge and that is why I would not touch a cent in her place.
You derrickman are a GOP to the core and you want for political sake to make Mrs. Clinton look as bad as the committee can and in doing so your stepping on 4 dead bodies that Mrs. Clinton did not order to Benghazi. The terrorist killed them not Clinton.
rails I am sure GW Bush worked overtime to make sure the US Army hid any proof of WMD since he had no interest in anyone finding them. THey also tracked Santa Claus every Christmas to make he was not shot down by mistake. Rails I can find anything I want to find on the internet and have seen the UTube pictures of what I am told is PROOF that Obama is going to use the Army to take over Texas. The Gov. of Tex being a GOP idiot must of believed it since he sent some Texas Nat guard to make sure the Seals and Green Barret did not take over Texas. I am sure that thousands of Texan believe that this action by our Gov. alone saved Texas from being Obama martial law. Of course they also believe in little green men, that we didn't go to the moon and that GW Bush order the attack on the WTC. Any fool can believe what he wants as long as no common sense is demanded or facts. And we both know how bad GW Bush would of worked to keep any WMD from being displayed as proof he was right. Chemical weapons of a non WMD do exist rails. You can buy them at Walmart or numerous other stores as well. Nerve Gas is another matter. But you believe what you want to believe and do not pay that much attention to the ugly facts that show clearly that Saddam had been given WMD by RR and he used them to kill a million Iran's and he used them MORE than was thought since they were all gone by the time GW said they were not. The UN got it right GW and you did not.
derrickman what are you smoking? Millions of boat people? From Viet Nam? Millions. You being a Texas boy you should know that Texas and La. got the most of the BOAT PEOPLE from Viet Nam and most of those in the Houston and Port Arthur area as far south as Corpus and in GM towns in LA. They went to shrimping at first working for American's as Viet Namese could not own a boat then the policy changed and the Gov gave them Small Business Loans and all the BIG steel shrimpers were owned and captained by them.
They are still there and still shrimp but their kids have branched off into all other area's of American life.
The Port Arthur High School had year after year as its top grads Viet Namese kids and still do.
They were never Millions of them as you claim however. Better check your numbers and the good old boy red necks who lived and worked along the GM hated them and did everything they could to make their lives as bad as they could. But being smarter than the red necks it just didn't work too well. Bubba red neck blamed Viet Shrimpers for catching too many shrimp and driving the price down, of over fishing and never throwing anything back, of breaking every law of Fish & Game and Coast Guard and getting away with it.
Open arms love from all the Bubba boys who just could not understand how they could get out shrimped by "slopes" and they discussed it daily in bars all alone the coast while the Viet boys were in the GM working.
If you do not think resentment does still exist today go visit some docks along the La. and Tx coast (better in La.) and you will find lots of Viet still with boats working them and making money and plenty of Bubba's still in the bars trying to figure out why they are being out shrimped. Talk to the CG and ask them if after being educated in the laws of the US fishing and Tex laws and CG requirements who they write up the most Viet or Bubba's. Not a million of them and they were not welcomed.
Lake my post is still available for anyone to read. What part of my statement do you think untrue?
I never mentioned Rubio's parents you wanted to read that into what I said. Do you go ahead and take up for the elite ruling class of do as you please to 90% of the population Capitalist that ran Cuba of which Rubio is from that group. He is not from Castro's freedom fighters who later changed their minds. HIS TYPE of elite Cuban were in the top 10% of the 3rd world country Cuba was before Castro. Perhaps you think Cuba is still 3rd world and "IF" they are then 99% of them are at least in the same boat today.
For a lefty you seem to trying to repaint what Cuba was under the elite group of Cubans that controlled the country for years before Castro threw them out. Rubio and HIS people may want to go back in Cuba and again redistribute the wealth so they again can have it all but the great majority of the Cuban people will take what they have now over what they had before Castro. Not the promise land by any means but still ahead of US in many areas of everyday life. Before Castro if you were none one of the elite group your kids did not go to school, you were doomed to a life of poverty and you had no health care. Ask them if they want they have now or want the elites to come back and retake over Cuba. My my Lake what a right wing pro Rubio Cuban you are all of sudden and of course support HIS PEOPLE as well. Your the one looking like a fool Lake but you that is standard procedure. I do not see a quote from you where I used the word parent Lake. Must of been a brain fart by you to read that into what was not written. Glad to see Grump has one convert to his way of rewriting what someone post. Put up or shut up Lake where is the word in my post you say is there?
nikk you are wasting your time with these guys. The only GOP guy that I have ever seen to admit and critize GW Bush for being a disaster is the same guy leading the field for the GOP The Trump man. These right wingers will go after you for all they are worth to defend GW Bush then vote for Trump who clearly does not think GW Bush has done much anything worth while in the war on Terrorism or the Middle East as a whole.
Obama in MO is not that great of a president but compared to GW Bush he is moved way up on the list.
Obama merely got stuck with Bush wars one needed one not. ISIS is nothing more than the elite troops of Saddam H. that the US militery never found when they "won" Iraq. Once Saddam H.was gotten rid of and no iron fist ruled the country in the vacuum arouse ISIS which is of the same Islamic religious party as was Saddam H. And not of the majority of the Iraq's but yet they seem to easly drive and defeat the greater majority. The elite divisions of Saddam H. Petronia Guard no doubt make up the backbone of the command and control structure of ISIS and many who fight for them. Thanks GW for getting ride of Saddam H. who was contained and harmless just as GH Bush had left him and giving us an ally of Iran running the country that the rebel forces of ISIS does not control. With Kurds hanging on for dear life caught between the two factions.
Obama is guilty of not knowing how to get himself out of the GW BUSH mess which who ever is elected president will still have to try to figure out. All the GOP can do with Afghan Land a mess due to GW Bush again and Iraq a mess and Syria a mess is focus on Benghazi. Why do they not instead focus on failed hwy bridges in the US that killed a lot more Americans than died in Benghazi? Or some disaster due to lack of funding and failure to raise use tax to pay for needed improvements. Thanks for those deaths GOP and you balanced budget ya ya ya. Benghazi Booooooooo scare you yet? RAise up the fear banner again.
Lake reread my post again and see if you see where I said Rubio's parents lived under Castro. The reference to "HIS PEOPLE" referes not to his parents as you seem to read that into those words but to a class of people the 10% (if that many) that lived high on the hog before Castro took away their control of the country.
I do regret that Cuba was not allowed to "attempt" some form of democracy or that it did not have more of a Tito type approach of Gov but when Castro (who the US supported at first) would not dance to the tune he was told was then the target of first real attempt to oust him by bullets and then when that failed was the target of eco war which continues today. We trade with China and Russia and did so when they were USSR but Cuba alone remains on our #$%$ list. Why is that?
You support the US policy toward Cuba? You support the southern Cuban population of fla. idea of how to deal with Cuba? I guess Rubio is your boy? No to all those I bet but you could not resist trying to rewrite my post in the false idea you had found me wrong. His people and his parents are totally different meaning if you take the context of my post about Cuba as a whole but you just had to find fault so you invented in your little twisted mind a fact that is not there. Maybe dislike has driven you to doing anything to try to twist my post to say what I did not say just as your brother Grump tries to do. Now run along lake nobody mind is not going to change by your post or mine.
Mr. BS Folks love to talk about shortages or failures when the country is leftist like Ven or Cuba and they do indeed have problems in some areas.
However as you pointed out wasn't any different 30 years ago.
They do have more health care and hospitals for the poor than they did 30 years ago and they have more kids going to school and more schools than they did 30 years ago. Overall life in Ven has not changed that much for the folks at the top of the heap but for the poor they have improved their lifestyle a lot. Cuba was nothing more than a corrupt right wing dictatorship for all the years before Castro. Today they have problems indeed much caused by US embargo but they also have less infant death than the US, Higher level of reading and writing abilities than the US. A very good health care system for all Yes those elite folks that now live in Fla lost all they had and had to face the idea of living like 90% of the people in Cuba lived when they ran things. They did care one bit about the lives of the poor. If they had enough food, had schools, or health care but they lived large on the work of the poor.
The never had toilet paper or pampers but neither did folks in America in the mid 1800's hundreds. Because of our system of Gov as flawed as it may be the masses have prospered along with the rich Schools, protection from abusive work under Cuba type capitalism.
Yea Ven and Cuba have their problems but the majority of the people are a lot better off with those problems than the capitalist dictators before the rise of socialism. Given a choice between Cuban style of capitalism (found in almost every 3rd world country today and a Gov capitalism/socialism or socialism that is an easy choice for 90% of the people in countries ran like Cuba was ran.
Rubio cries tears for how bad HIS people have suffered under Castro but not one tear for all the suffering 90% of Cubans did under Rubio class rule in Cuba.
cleo I do not think the ban will be lifted. Why should it? We import oil into the US so why would it best for National Defense sake to start exporting oil just so some folks can make some money? Oh politics and money yea I guess it could happen but not as long as Obama has a veto or he needs more money for his library. Gota love our system of selling the nation best interest to the highest bidder.
danny again your post points at what I have been wondering for a while now. WHY is SFL not moving up more than it is? They will get a nice % of the NEW FRO they will increase their profit sharing % and they already pay a nice dividend. Since they own the ships they have real value as well.
If FRO is good buy at today's price which I think it is SFL has to have real upside as well. The risk to SFL is debt which they SAILED through the last downturn in the sector of the last 5 years. True they have fallen from a high of almost 23 bucks to a low of 9.30 and now recovered to todays price but the dividends over that time period would make up for the fall in the stock price. I see that 23 buck price very possible in the next year and dividend increases as well if rates remain above 50,000 on average.
While FRO has the best chance for a real big % jump in stock price over the next year SFL is more a LT income investment which should also give a nice gain in LT stock price. IMO
Yahoo As of December 31, 2014, the companys tanker fleet consisted of 22 vessels, including 14 VLCCs and 8 Suezmax tankers. Webb site shows as of July 15 2015 14suezmax 22VLCC, 9 LR2 and 16 MR.
You can check out the names given for the ships and year made and it will show that the numbers on the webb site is the new number for Frontline after the merger. 8 more VLCCF 6 more suez and all those LR2 and MR ships as well. LR2 rates seem to be around 33,000 as well so they should be money makers.
Glad to see the fleet grow by well over 50% that should give a nice boost to bottom line.
lake such a love affair you too have going. birds of a feather do flock together but Lake Grump is a lot smother than you at this game. He being a righ winger has leaned to be smooth around the edges while you although on the left blast away, generalize and rant and rave as good or better than most right wingers.
The board can read and understand if they choose too and all my post are under my name as are Grumps
You and grump dance with each I am not your dancing partner to be led around at your beck and call and as long as you follow grump will be happy to led you so dance on.
rails if you noticed the OPM files that were hacked by china were those who had security clearances so I have already had my info passed on to them. I am not treat to them as I gave up my clearance in 2006 and have not conducted an investigation since that time. Being hacked is one thing and having action taken against from the hack is another. Anyone today that does not think their vital info is available to all who want it is silly. There is so much info that is for sale and available today for a price (all legal) that used to protected by the need of search warrant today all businessmen share all sorts of info. Not a month goes by that I do get in the mail a notice of privacy from someone who I deal with. The notice should be called YOUR LACK OF PRIVACY since they all have items that you can not keep them from sharing and that from Banks and Insurance companies your SS number is about as hard to get as candy in a candy store. Poor old Mr. BS if he knew how much of his private business was available to anyone who wants he would have to rushed to ER.
The Gov is still restricted by laws and where law enforcement used to get access to more info today that is no longer the truth. A business can get info from another business they share info with that a warrant would be required by any law enforcement agency with a few exceptions. If you want to scare yourself set down at your computer with you credit card run a webb search on yourself then start buying all the info they will try to sell about yourself. do not expect a sound night sleep after an hour or so of that. If I wanted too rails I could have your full name your wife's or former wife, kids, income level and asset info and of course phone and address in no more than 30 minutes and less than 10 bucks. Your car info of course. If you worked the firm and location and your job title. All legal. What Privacy let the Chinese have my stuff everyone else does.
Grump I go weary of your lies and trying to reply to each new lie you tell. Frankly anyone who pays attention to a proven liar like you is wasting their time. Go play with yourself as frankly your not worth the effort to hear more lies from your mouth.
Nat has recovered from the .38 dividend and rates are now above 40,000 which would mean on average for quarter the dividend would be around .38 or .40 mark the next quarter. As to how high NAT goes and how fast the rates will determind that. If they go up to say 50 or 60,000 then so will NAT go up and if they go down so will Nat. At this point it does not take a rocket mind to figure out what drives NAT stock value and dividends. RATES.
Demo's made a point or Obama did (I think VERY WRONG) not to go after GW Bush mistakes as they were so many I doubt the Gov could of done any other business but have hearings. WTC, WMD, attacks on Gov buildings in Middle east like Benghazi. The whole 8 years of GW Bush was full of screw ups and misconduct.
Outing a CIA source for vengeance on her husband who would not roll over and do as told which was LIE to the American people. One guy ate the bullet for Chaney who was such a loser they could of had numerous hearings on him alone. The Demo's choose the high ground but they are wrong because when you are in a fight with folks that will do anything to anyone to try to win the high ground will only show weakness and has not produced one ounce of truth except when they screw up and let it slip. I agree the right wing has chosen the path of evil to further their cause which given how evil their cause is what else could you expect.
oropan you are wrong it is what FRO now has. That number will grow after the merger by how much I do not know as FRO2012 has that info and I have not been able to find out how many ships we are talking about.
scs you asked the question so I will answer it not lake but... GWB was in Texas at the ranch with all his top folks when the "expert" on terrorism gave his warning. It was dismissed. Facts are facts. Oh how the GOP would love to have Obama dismissing such a warning they would have 4 or 5 committees investigating such a failure to heed the warning. You ask would Gore of done different? I think he would because he was VP and in the loop on security matters and knew well the man making the warning. BC had already given such a warning heed as the same guy warned about airplanes attacking Atlanta during the Olympics. Better safe than sorry would of been a wise course to follow. GW Bush and his whole team (who at such an early date in the presidency did want to tell the king he was naked) dismissed the warning which proved to be correct.
Had it been acted on a lot more intell resources could of been used but the man and his job was dismissed and any effort to follow up on hard intell was done away with.
This was a failure of the kind way beyond Benghazi or even RR move into Leb or the 4 Gov buildings that werre attacked under GW Bush and no Demo committee called. Trump got this right. Not only did it happen on GW Bush watch but he choose to dismiss a sound warning or listen to team members who wanted a new terrorism guy which they got. This failure was ingnored by the voters as GW rode a wave of AMERIANISM and saddness and was never held accountable for his failures. He then followed or created bad intell to invade Iraq in search of WMD that did not exist and abandoned the war in Afghan Land which turned from success to failure with the loss of focus. GW Bush was the worst foreign policy president we have had in modern history and MAY of prevented the attack. We do not know it would of happened or not if the warning would of been taken seriously and those are all FACTS without a committee. You do not like them but they are True.
rails having had one for over 25 years and being the person responsible for making sure all procedures were followed in matters relating to ALL classified documents from Confidential to TS I can assure you it is not a violation of the regs and laws to reveal you have any type of clearance. In fact someone with a TS clearance is NOT ALLOWED to view even a classified document UNLESS THEY have a NEED TO KNOW.
It is scary to have seen just how ignorant people are who position requires them to on occasion deal with TS information (not only documents by the way) as their primary function is day to day operations which comes with a requirement to have a TS clearance but they rarely are involved in TS type work or information.
They are trying to violate the law and may have read and signed several years back the TS requirement to understand all the rules and regs but having not used it and not being in that "Field" they stumble over themselves often by wanting to discuss or view in an area where others do not have a TS clearance but may be involved in the over all project. When Gov and Corp America end up crossing paths in matters of TS matters it really gets sticky. A CEO will not have a TS clearance but some underling within the Corp will be the point person who does. Or worse yet a merger situation where you have a Corp that has a Gov defense contract that is extremely classified and the merger company is a proven risk well documented. Commerce will always push for merger while defense and intell agencies will oppose it. Who tells the CEO of the merger company he can not see or know anything about the business he just bought? He being a person who NEVER will be cleared for TS because of past actions. I doubt a day goes by that some violation of TS security is not violated by someone with or without knowledge or understanding of what they are doing is the key to how the violation is viewed. Except when money, power & politics are involved.