lake do you have a site to Prove your statement or do we by faith believe in you? You resort to LIes to try to discredit God. So tell me Lake just HOW do you know those men were paid? In fact care to tell us who those men were. You attack not only God but men you really do not even know by name and claim they are all corrupt. You are a sad example of a Liberal and that is why I find you no different than a tea party liar who will Lie and try to discredit anyone to prove a point that of course is false.
This post is one of the easiest of yours to see how mean spirited and untruthful you truely are.
Go on Lake Name the men you call corrupt. Can you even Name them?
scs All Border laws were established with commerce, tariffs, quota's and trade issues as the focus. Those revenues gave the USA its operating money for its early years. So the law on the border and all court decisions over 200 years have supported that idea that the Federal ALONE controls the border.
You may not like that but it is the Law. Shame those right wingers in the house and Senate do not introduce a bill that would change that to give states some authority but instead they waste their time on other issues.
Texas Law Enforcement of all types has to be "Asked" to help or accompany Federal Law Enforcement when a "Border" Law enforcement operation is on going. The area that the Court (SC) has established as "Border Nexus" belongs only to the US Gov. Border search and seizure laws belong ONLY to the US Law Enforcement agencies which have given that authority and the state can not on its own claim a Border Nexus search even if standing on the Rio Grande.
Border Law Enforcement was a remains an area of inter agency dispute among the Feds and now under home land security most of those laws are now found within Homeland but not all.
Perry is merely doing what Perry loves to do. He is a born show boater and loves getting attention but the 1,000 state paid for Nat Guard will only be allowed to do at the border what the Obama led Fed Gov tells them they can do. fortunately the agencies get alone better than the leadership in most cases and they manage to work together most of the time.
Texas could not afford to have the responsibility of border security and yes your taxes would have to go up if they ever got that responsibility.
Giroux I am sure that every night the Demo leadership get down on their knees and pray that the house will even try for a vote on impeachment. If they do I think that will cost the GOP the Senate as it will remind people just how nothing ever changes with the GOP. The right wing even more right wing now than when old Newt ran them has done nothing but follow the Newt years failures on how to Gov. Gov shutdowns, Impeachment (they actually had a case in Clinton situation) committee after committee trying to score political points with one investigation after another and even the spoiled and slow to learn US voters finally woke up to wasteful and child like this type of Gov. was.
GW Bush had numerous US buildings attack and lost of American life and the Demo controlled house never once opened an investigation. The same with the whole Iraq screw up. Trying to be an adult and get alone does not work with the foaming at the mouth right wingers as again we see the rah rah about Bengasi over and over again as if the public has not seen and heard all that they want to about that.
Most of those house seats are safe again thanks to a political corrupt Supreme Court that ruled you can rig elections and form dist that are safe for political reason as long as you do not do it by race????
Such dist insure that idiots will keep their seats in the house leaving only the Senate at play.
Obama may have low appeal right now but compared to the HOUSE he is a dream come true. The House is truly a house of fools. The GOP eats their own as the defeat of the #2 GOP in the house shows. Canter was not right enough for the mad dogs so they ate him up. I do indeed hope that they impeach Obama to show once again just what a shame and disgrace they are to our nation.
Grump poor fellow you just have to put words in my mouth even when I am not involved in the post lol.
You are such a liar, without any truth and doing the will of your father very well I may say.
For the record I am indeed aware and delight in the fact that the GOP is now housed in a tent that is HUGE but alas not big enough for all the ego bearers in that party. We have "LOG CABINE", TEA PARTY, Neo Cons and the good old filthy rich boys all have to rub shoulders inside the tent which is smelling more like an outhouse than a tent especially come primary time. Yes they are other factions as well but of little interest in power and when push comes to shove the MONEY BOYS wins 90% of the time. Money still walks and BS merely talks. The South full of racist is where the tea party can top money and Texas being the best example of that lately.
Your next lie. corps couldn't be prosecuted unless they WERE "people", yes?
How lame even for you. Of course Corps could be prosecuted and were before the SC found them to be worthy of buying elections. Civil action against the Corp and criminal action against its officers have been done for years and years as surely you know so do not know why you tried such a weak lie you usually do better. Just ask the GOP Gov. of Fla if HIS corp wasn't prosecuted and fined billions of dollars.
The biggest LIe however has to be "I disagree GWB wanted to spread democracy? To me that's funny."
Either you are a Liar or a fool. I never figured you for a fool. Deceived yes Fool no.
So you want us to believe that you believe and GW believed and all those in WH believed that by invading Iraq and doing away with Saddam would allow the Iraqi people to produce a democratic country?
afghan land as well lol. Wait where have I heard that before? oH YES Vietnam that is why we were in Viet Nam as well. Well if you really are so stupid to actually believe that GW is that stupid that makes you dumber than dumb lol.
Lake thanks for giving me a nice laugh. You are such a child and clearly you have no nutmegs at all.
You now add "I demand an apology" to your right wing behavior. Yes indeed another right winger did indeed "demand" an apology. What a high self esteem you have of yourself of course someone who knows all there is to know about everything would believe themselves I suppose.
I have said many times on this board that I do not drink yet you said to go have a drink. Be like me telling you to go say a prayer lol.
If your not man enough to take a post that catches you at your child like behavior maybe you ought not play with the big boys? Now feel between your legs and find your nutmegs if you can and act like a man and be about your right wing style of post.
Only a total idiot (are you really that?) would not know that evolution is based upon the concept of survival of the fittest and that getting ride of "INFERIOR" types within a species is the only way that "nature" or evaluation holds to the "LAW" that the species evolves and improves. Jesus says the only way "MAN" evolves is by loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God. Two beliefs with two very different LAWS.
Hitler who was not a Christian as you have lied and said in the past (no apology demanded) did indeed believe in the SUPERIOR RACE and did his best to CULL as many Inferior races of mankind and build the great Aryan Race to rule forever. If that is a page out of evolutionism Law I do not know what could be clearer. You saw no mercy or compassion from the #$%$'s as they were about building the MASTER RACE.
As some right wing Christian want to make laws and force behavior of what they think is Christian teaching on all because they believe it will be for the greater good (and they like it) so too did the #$%$'s think they were about the greater good. Jesus says to love the #$%$ sexual as yourself. Never would he not say hire one or abuse them. That is love.
rami I am already a gambler on FRO but I do think it a good time to gamble. Look at the rates for one thing and only peace and quite in the Middle east will ease the pressure on the rates since who can not see that is the cause of the higher rates? So the quarter will be a good one even with a loss given the positive spin that the rates will allow in the looking forward statement. Mr. F still works between FRO and SFL as we just saw so he has not thrown in the towel on FRO.
The downside at 2.50 with an up side of over 4 in next year makes it not a bad bet. I think a low of 2 and a high of 6 in next year is more real but I limit the gain to 4 to be conservative (yes on money I can be conservative)
The word is gamble. Do you have the nutmegs to put down your money to make the bet or not is the real question. If rates stay were they are for another 6 months FRO will have a nice cash build up to improve the balance sheet and with the middle a total failure or their normal self how can the rates drop as low as they were before the pick up? I think buying now is a very good gamble.
Lake you have now crawled down to the lowest bottom rung of the ladder I see joing your right wing racist brother rje in saying I am a drunk. Lol you just can not stand anyone who disagrees with you can you.
No defense of your so called survival of the fittest producing compassion and mercy? I understand how can you defend such a contrast of theories.
Let me tell you how you can defend yourself since you seem to be unable to do so. evolution is for the betterment of mankind in the long run as it does cull out the weak and those that need help and thus drag down the gene pool. Jesus said love them and take care of them so He is anti mankind because he wants to put for Love as more important to mankind than culling out the weak.
Any real anti God pro evolutionist as you claim to be should be able to say those things with pride.
Kill off the weak or let them die who cares 50,000 years and we will be better off for such actions now. Love is not the answer and you should only care for the elite of the species to move it toward improvement.
scs the left wing has always had crazy ideas I guess. They were against slavery, wanted women to have the right to vote, for child labor laws, for safe working conditions, all you right wing nut jobs were against those crazy ideas. If you are against abortion because you claim to be PRO LIFE then how can you be ANTI LIFE unless the life in question can pay for treatment? Careful how you hide behind a cross it could fall on you.
I stayed in Hospital for 14 days and had 2 surgies done. Got the bill yesterday from Hospital it was 93,000 dollars. Now tell me how little Johnny or Sussie mom and dad can afford that without help from somebody.
That was not the doctors bill either those are separate.
You said you have not been sick or ill for a long time so you have not a clue how much it cost if you end up in hospital. This was a Baptist teaching Hospital as well and clearly for profit. If you had no insurance that would be your bill and what "They say you owe". My insurance paid 1200 bucks and said my "other" insurance paid 12000 which would I guess be Medicare part A. So at first glance it appears the billed 93,000 has been satisfied by 13,500 but someone without insuance would still owe another 80,000 bucks so you defend that math.
Looks like SFL will get cash from FRO of 10.5 mil and whatever they sold the ships for. Fro will pay 10.5mill
and have a note to to SFL of around 48 mill on the ships. However FRO will also not have to pay 101.5 mil to SFL in lease payments thus a net gain to FRO of around 43 mill.
That however does not account for loss revenue from the lease of said ships. Ships 15 years old.
To know the total who gets what you would have to know more details than furnished in article and if the ships were on current contract but worse case a reduction of cash demand of 43 mill by FRO to SFL.
I again trust Mr. K as he shuffles his assets among his holdings I hope good for both SFL which I own and FRO which I own.
rails not sure where you get your rate info as Intertanko shows the rate as of today at 27,000 for VLCCF and 43,000 for seuz.
They are holding steady as well and with all that is going on in the middle east and Ukraine I doubt they will fall down too much.
Lake you say "Evolution" has no laws. That statement from someone who sees himself educated?
Then you show that you do not believe that yourself by saying that evolution "weeds out" some bad human traits. Clearly you impose the "law" of species improvement by that statement alone.
The backbone of Any evolution theory and they are more than one is that evolution continues to improve the development of the species until it evolves into a new type. From early man to today's version is what most would agree is an improvement. The animal kingdom is full of such examples as well and NONE of them based on Love, kindness, compassion, long suffering for others, forgiveness in fact those traits run against survival of the fittest.
Now here comes Lake a Pure evolutionist who does not practice the things that evolution success is based on. Lake cares about children, Lake wants to see the sick and lame treated, the old looked after. Not a very good way to assure the continued successful evolution of the hardest of mankind now is it?
In fact you should be over in the camp of those who say that certain types of people are inferior sort of like the idea of #$%$ Germany. They were going to improve and grow the "Master Race" for the betterment of mankind. The #$%$ are only trying to ride the human race of those types that would "drag it" down.
Repent Lake from your anti evolutionist ways and embrace the improvement of the species by letting the rich who by being rich are clearly elites and superior keep their money and stop taking taxes from the better "classes" of mankind to give to those who clearly are inferior by being poor, sick or dim witted. Love is weakness in evolution as is compassion. For the greater good of our species no sheltering those lessor types and mixing the gene pool. The Gene pool not love is what is important Lake.
Not a 12 stepper but they do work better to help folks than a shrink.
Lake once again you show how silly your are not to mention prejudice. You post that ALL Educatied people believe in evolution which is a really dumb and wrong thing to say as I hope that even you know.
Then you avoid what I posted to you on the FACT that evolution is built on the survival of the fittest being what culls and improves the species. If you believe in evolution being true and the reason even the human race has evolved then why do you support keeping the weak and not so bright among us alive? That is counter to the laws of evolution as only the strong survive. The right wing racist on here that point out how the wellfare crowd are inferior humans should be something that would be supported by evolution as it would cull the uneducated, sick, deformed and mixed blood. Clearly in nature species do not breed down and protect the weak do they?
I have agreed with you that religion has been and continues to be bloodly but their is a huge difference between religion even Christian religion than what Jesus taught. Jesus did not teach evolution but
compassion. Take a look at Nikky post to me to see what he thinks of compassion and the inferior children of those he sees as lower in the chain of evolution than him.
Face it Lake your an evolutionist who is also compassionate to the weak, sick and deformed among you.
You believe one way and practice another.
nikky you must still insist that the world is flat and any who disagree with you are a liberal.
How can you be so stupid to actually believe that all the facts on hunger amoung children in America is wrong and you are right? You kind of stupidly is based on political belief an not facts just as those on the right refuse to see the warming trend because if they did they fear that would make them to close to a LIERAL
They continue to make money for FRO and other shippers like NAT. Oil is up today while most E&P boys are down. As long as rates stay where they have been now for over 5 weeks (9 weeks being a quarter) FRO and others are making money. Suez are making BIG MONEY (NAT)
Mr. Shores I have said it before but I do think it is worth repeating. Obama care is not a socialist program as is often portrayed by the right. It is more open market to obtained insurance in fact as your post suggest.
It is different to be sure and it will take the number crunchers at the insurance co. a few years before they get the numbers they need to again know what makes money and what does not.
I think that under ACA that some will benefit a lot not so much by cheaper care as those on medicade were getting free care already but they will get faster and wider care options at same price or close to it. Those who have pre existing condition will also get help but that will cost money to insurance co. All those facts will have to be figured into the system before a final picture can be seen. We ALL know the old system was broke for most folks including the Fed Gov that was going broke. Time will tell if ACA makes any changes in the money part of the broke system or not but clearly the treatment part of ACA has already made a difference in who can get treatment and when and where.
You state of NH is a small state with a low insurance pool to draw from and to benefit from any system it needs to be able to join other larger markets to "Pool" with. If ACA does not allow for that it will at some time in the future as only the very foolish on the right suggest "gutting" ACA and it will not be gutted as it simply has helped too many middle class voters to make them upset if gutted.
The number of folks who now "pay" (regardless of who does the paying) has greatly increased and goes to insurance co. which are now trying to figure the numbers and once figured will compete for business. To me the only real unknown is how much it will cost the Federal Gov. as both the poor and the insurance co. will benefit from ACA. Some individuals will pay more than before and some less as some choices have been done away with. All about numbers.
Lake the Love of God is found in two commandments according to Jesus. Love your neighbor as you love yourself and Love God. Now I know you do not believe that but Love is the central theme of Christianity not religion perhaps but Christianity.
Now you claim to love do you not? Even given your unloving post aimed at any on this board who dare to disagree with you. You also claim to be a believer in evolution and thus a product of that belief correct?
Now according to Darwin and other experts of evolution the number one goal of evolution or the primary doctrine if you will is survival of the species and the evolution of species by the strong survive and improve the species. The weak or culled since they are a threat to the better development of the species.
There is no love or compassion or mercy found in that type of doctrine. Those things would allow for the weaker to live and hurt the gene pool. So if you are an evolved species your very life has been forwarded by this improvement of the gene pool. It is nature at work or Evolution at work and nothing else.
It is not personal or cruel but merely the way of evolution to improve and create a better species. Love would stand in the way of such a driven order as it would not kill his weak neighbor but help them. The animal kingdom of which I am sure you being a true evolutionist see mankind as mere animals there is no exception to this survival of the best to protect and evolve the gene pool.
Thus when you at man you see the only exception? That alone breaks the "theory" laws. You claim man is good by nature but in fact the nature of all evolved species is not good or love or mercy or compassion but survival. Those who do not want to take care of the sick, the old, the young, the helpless, the poor are doing by nature what evolution says to do. God says differently. God also says that man is different.
Love is the flaw that shows evolution to be false or Man is excepted.
scs nice try but again you are caught. That post was to point out how ALL who were raised in the South was exposed to cultural and legal racism as a way of life. For someone to claim it never effected them or formed their character is one who I have a hard time believing. Also that post was full of past tensed verbs like
"have been, went, and practiced" You also did not address your greater Lie about me where you claimed I have said that God can not change someone life or behavior. Why do you dislike or hate me so much that you would tell a Lie like that about me? Am I such a threat to expose who you are that you jump to Lies about me? All who read Paul's writing understand that Grace along bring forgiveness and no one can be righteous on their own.
God did indeed change me by showing me how great is his love and how we must love. A racist person is one who does not love but thinks himself better than others. I forgive you of your lies about me but would appeal to you to resist from being the devil's tool by using lies to attack someone. Post facts and if I am guilty I will admit it and confess and repent as I have done before on this board.
scs I see you like putting words in my mouth. That seems to be a common tactic of attack instead of posting facts.
The Apostle Paul had no trouble admitting he was a sinner that battled daily to obtain what he had not achieved nor according to Paul would he Ever achieve. So when I admit to sin of any kind I am merely admitting what Paul stated. I like Paul depend on the Grace of God and the power of the Holy Spirit to forgive and continue the battle to give me the power to become more like Christ.
You accuse me of saying that God can not change a sin in someone life which is of course a LIE by you to try to paint me as bad as you can. I NEVER said that. I did say I was raised in a South that the LAW forced you to be a racist if you obeyed the law. I also lived in the South which the great majority of churches practiced racism. I lived in a South that one in three white males were members of the #$%$ and almost all the rest were racist as they had been taught by their parents who being good law abiding Southerners considered it the Right and Proper way to live.
You claim to not have been influence by those things and I think you are younger than I so perhaps the law had changed when you came up (not willing but forced upon the south) but the culture had not changed nor has it changed today. The N word was once spoken in polite settings and even in church while today it is only spoken among fellow racist in settings that are safe to reveal the still present racist ideas.
God has indeed changed my heart from that young racist man to what I am today. I see how evil racism is the long lasting effects that it has had on this country. Unfortunely the USA has a deep racist past. Indians, Irish, Poles, Italians, blacks, Asian and any others who were not "WASP" were always looked down on. Religion didn't do much to change this but Jesus can ,did and will.
Rates for VLCCF 27500 and rates for suez at 47,500 and FRO does own those kind of ships.
If those rate hold for the quarter FRO will make a nice profit. I do not expect them to pay a dividend if they do but I do think the stock will react to a second quarter of profit.
I would be a buyer at these prices for a gamble if I wasn't already in and gambling lol.
Grump I laugh at you weak post as you got caught in your lies again.
Here is the bottom line Grump. You will not claim Jesus as your Lord. Given that fact what you have to say about the word of God is of no interest to me. The devil and his followers can quote scripture and try to mislead. It is my prayer as Paul told Timothy. "All you can do for one so self deluded and given over is pray
that they will return to their right mind"
Until you boldly claim Jesus as your Lord I find no interest or gain in exchanging the things of the Lord with one who will not claim Jesus as his Lord.