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rothco619 53 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 14, 2015 10:09 AM Member since: Aug 29, 2007
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    A good read here

    by onebarkmill Apr 14, 2015 8:38 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 14, 2015 10:09 AM Flag

    Nice article, wonder why no mention of the supposed leader in the stem cell space cytori theraputics. The news just keeps getting better for us stuck holders.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 13, 2015 1:12 PM Flag

    Rodney, Don'texpect any news from Cytori nor any change in the way this company operates. I regret the day I was introduced to this company some 5 years ago. Unfortunately this has been a very expensive lesson. The shorts will win again as dilution will come as company needs money and management has proven that they can't secure a partnership nor raise money unless they go to loan sharks . I don't believe this company will ever become what we all thought the potential promised. 10x'smy wildest dreams has become my worst nightmare. I would be thrilled to break even but owning shares @an average of $5.20 I don't see that happening any time soon and with each passing day my hopes fade. I wish I could believ that $ cost averaging would be prudent but I don't see it.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 13, 2015 12:22 PM Flag

    If there was a new presentation to be seen on the lorem website that would be news, but as of now still the same single page that has been up there for two years with no information. Not so exciting or informative, true to form.

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    Cytori Plans?

    by noentry1233 Apr 9, 2015 10:22 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 10, 2015 10:07 AM Flag

    Everyone wants to blame AF. Yes he speaks half truths and outright lies but Cytori management has put us in this most precarious position not AF. Anger and displeasue should be focused where it belongs not on a messeger with an agenda. Time for some real change at Cytori and how about an update on Lorem Vascular that actually gives shareholders some facts. Hedrik promised transparency guess he spells it like Obama does.

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    SA Article Coming IMO

    by rodney.strongg Apr 10, 2015 8:42 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 10, 2015 10:01 AM Flag

    Rodney with all respect to WST he has been wrong about Cytori for years as has everyone else who continues to make excuses for this mismanaged ,non revenue generating company. Hedrik is not the man to lead us to the promised land. Cash is an issue and has been #1 issue he has comitted to solve but here we sit. Sorry but no longer believing the BS and only execution will change my mind. Been Calhouned enough. Cytori gives AF the ammo to post his drivel and do what he is paid to do and that is to make money for the shorts.Sorry to be so negative but this POS has cost me way to much money and I my patience is long gone.GLTA

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2015 2:17 PM Flag

    That page has been up there with no change since the day the deal with Cytori was announced what almst 3 years ago now. I signed up for additional imnfo on that day and not a peep. Nothing has changed at cytori in my eyes other then some of the bad managers were fired. Our current CEO was just as respondsible for the failure of this company todate as was Chris calhoun. All talk no action, and by his own admission Hedriks #1 priority to fix the balance sheet is nowhere and the company has been given away to loan sharks. I'm tired of people defending what is indefenseable. The shorts have been right and the only ones who have made money on this stock and continue to do so. I would also warn you that some of those who post particularly on Fas board and claim to be longs, may have benefited handsomely from the drop in PPS as well. Wolf in sheeps clothing so to speak. I say enough BS, execute.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2015 1:42 PM Flag

    Rodney it is you who are missing the point and lack understanding of what has transpired over the last 10 + years. Adam F would not have the ammunition he does nor the success if Cytori was a well run compant that was buttomed up. The throw up up against the wall and see wghat sticks approach is why the 200 million plus that has been spen on R&D has netted shareholders zero. If you are so shortsighted that you can't understand how foolish it looks to have no presense on the internet after 3 years, I can't help you.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2015 9:57 AM Flag

    I have done battle with AF before. he is a paid shill, and will do all that he can to help his short buddies. This is what he does. He knows he is a #$%$ and is proud of it. Hebashed a company some years ago called medarex, saying products were worthless. medarex was bought by Brystal meyers and has the leading cancer drug in the BMY stable of cancer drugs. No validity to what he wrote about company but he was successful in helping the shorts. This is what he does, same as his boss Mr. Cramer

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2015 9:52 AM Flag

    The mistake Cytori and Lorem has made is that after 3 years Lorem website is not funtioning. How can you have a press release of the magnitude of China approval and not expect investors to go to the lorem site to do DD. These are stupid mistakes that continue to blow up in cytori's face. No PR, No IR, weak basic fundamental marketing skills. It is inexcusible. This is why crooks and liars like Adam F are able to twist a story and help the shorts. Lorem and cytori have nobody but themselves to blame. as a longterm shareholder it is the not learning from previous mistakes and repeating them again and again that kiills me.

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    Question for longs with knowledge of CYTX?

    by mofisher22 Apr 6, 2015 12:38 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 6, 2015 1:47 PM Flag

    I don't think those answering your question understand what is going on.
    1. the marketing model for Cytori has changed per request of the FDA. In the US Cytori will not be selling machines nor disosables, but the final stem cells that are to be injected in patients. The FDA wants to monitor uses of the cells which can be done with the new softwear in Cellution 2. The issue here is that they are not enforcing the use of stem sells now and Dr's are using stem cells for treatments that are not approved, and theyy are doing this without fear of enforcement. My friend just last week went to maine and had treatment for the knee. Dr used a centrifuge to spin and seperate cells. According to Cytori this is going to change. Cytori will in the US be geeting money for the final delivered product not machines or consumables.
    2 In the rest of the world they will sell machines and consumables so the razor, razorblade model stays in place.
    Mangement has not been at all forthcoming about any costs of device or consumable.

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    Ok, now picture CYTX at $2.32 this week

    by manmillion37 Apr 6, 2015 11:26 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 6, 2015 1:04 PM Flag

    So far they have not used ATM. I don't know if they will. I think that they are beholden to Sabby and oxfor and therefore will not make any move without them. There are plenty of warrants out there that can be excercised, Sabby's are in the money but as belgium pointed out above the $ones with $3.50strike price expire in may. It would be great news for all of us if the PPS reached $350 by May so that those do not expire wortheless. Many long term investors like Fas et el. were destroyed as there warrants were not extended and expired worthless. I'd be lying if I told you I had any idea what will transpire or if I told you that i had reknewed confidence in the current management team. GLTA

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    Ok, now picture CYTX at $2.32 this week

    by manmillion37 Apr 6, 2015 11:26 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 6, 2015 12:59 PM Flag

    Thanks belgium, I wasn't sure, Fas, updated me on his board. I was going from memory.

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    Ok, now picture CYTX at $2.32 this week

    by manmillion37 Apr 6, 2015 11:26 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 6, 2015 11:29 AM Flag

    I am thinking that as friends of Cytori options were extended until May 2015 at a strike price of $2.50 perhaps we actually get there so they are execrcised and raise a bit of cash. I can't figure this one out for the life of me other then the big boys are completely in control of this.

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    cytx this is looking bad right now

    by robshemanski Mar 27, 2015 10:44 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Mar 27, 2015 12:28 PM Flag

    Because the management of the company has zero credibility and every single long term holder is in the red.Put this stock on your screen, watch it and when they actually fix the balance sheet and generate some revenue,but it then. As a long term stuckholder, I know this is not in my best interet and I should be encouraging all to buy buy buy, but better to pay it forward. If Cytori is the real deal it will go much higher then $5 but as for now that seems pretty far fetched. Plenty of potential but you can't eat potential.

  • Reply to

    BUY OUT IN JUNE

    by sprinklerguy1210 Mar 24, 2015 6:36 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Mar 26, 2015 11:26 AM Flag

    Think you been standing under the sprinkler too long and brain may be water logged but I'll take it to be done with this nightmare.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Mar 25, 2015 12:45 PM Flag

    Your not really grasping the science Phillip the enzyme is used with the stem cells . Nobody will copy this machine. You should if you have not already listen to the last call and especially the Q7A at the end to give yourself a better understanding of what you have invested in. I also suggest you visit cytx-investordotcom where you can learn about the history of the company as well as learning from mostly knowlegeable long term investors. GL

  • Reply to

    Really!!'

    by runnermax1 Mar 25, 2015 10:12 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Mar 25, 2015 10:18 AM Flag

    Your a fool for going all in at one price. If your in for the long term sit back and buy on the dips. As I have said numerous times, you will not buy at the low or sell at the high and if Cytori becomes the company us long term stuckholders bought into years ago, $1.30 will be nothing. If your day trading good luck.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Mar 25, 2015 10:14 AM Flag

    As the business model for Cytori has changed dramatically from a razor blade model to selling the finished stem cells , and if the FDA follows through on enforcement of all those using as YMB poster totaljim likes to say centrifuges, then this will be a bonaza for Cyttori. The new cellution machine is so advanced that Cytori can monitor the patient, the indication and the quality of the cells. As the government has been very involved in the development of the softwear that does this and being that the government is funding the development of the cellution machine, this is all making sense. The govenment want the most cash efficient way to get Cellution machines in hospitals and does not want to stockpile consumables so by purchasing the end product the cells to treat burns and for hospitals to use for other indications once approved, this new model works great and Cytori will be paid for the cells, which is great. Others wanting to use the cells will need to go through Cytori and the FDA can monitor the use, which is exactly what they want to do. IOutside the USA the razor blade model will work nicely. See Okyanos and the deal with Lorem vascular which will kick in if and when China approvals kick in. If you believ what Cytori tells us this willl be sooner rather then later.

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    Sabby

    by rodney.strongg Mar 21, 2015 7:38 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Mar 25, 2015 10:04 AM Flag

    Schwabb is doing it, Morgan stanley is not based on the the discussions I have had where I trade. That should tell you something right there. I would say it's also about time for one more negative article from Adam Fuerstein the pimp of the shorts to give them one more chance to cover, before all the hard work cytori has been doing pays off. Hopefully soon Cytori will be able to attract a capable CEO to finally take Cytori to the promised land. Don't begin holding your breath just yet. Today's news is a good baby step though. GLTA longs shorts GFY.

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    Sabby

    by rodney.strongg Mar 21, 2015 7:38 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Mar 25, 2015 10:00 AM Flag

    That is not a good strategy for longs. Do not allow your shares to be loaned out for the pennies you will get. Make the shorts buy on the open market. Whoever is lending out there shares is only helping the shorts.

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