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rothco619 142 posts  |  Last Activity: Apr 16, 2014 4:38 PM Member since: Aug 29, 2007
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  • Reply to

    Purchased my first 5K shares this mornng

    by gigoptixman Apr 16, 2014 11:12 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 4:38 PM Flag

    hey gigo congrats your a MB favorite already. I am putting you on ignore would you mind returning the favor and doing the same. thanks in advance bye,bye

  • Reply to

    Lots of churn ?

    by myownhedgefund Apr 16, 2014 10:32 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 2:56 PM Flag

    Hedge another steller day for CYTX. NASDAQ up big and here we sit broken hearted came to #$%$ and only farted.

  • Reply to

    Lots of churn ?

    by myownhedgefund Apr 16, 2014 10:32 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 10:43 AM Flag

    off to another great start. should be just another day in paradise for the shorts.

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    My Thoughts

    by rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 12:11 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 10:39 AM Flag

    yes they should but if they are negotiating a sale then they can not. again as JG states why do they need to buy when they get all the options they could ever want for free. So there are the two sides of the coin to ponder.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 10:36 AM Flag

    This information is very accessible and it just takes a bit of effort on your part. Why not begin with the Cytori website and then go to FAS website and learn something about the company you are invested in or thinking of investing in. Not giving you a hard time just do your own DD.

  • Reply to

    My Thoughts

    by rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 12:11 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 10:01 AM Flag

    very much a possibility. KT LIM has a very different idea then shareholders like us.
    Lim is the largest shareholder of Cytori stock. He paid $3 an di s now underwater, however, consider this. If CC theoretically is working on a deal to sell the company, while we want to remain independant and realize the benefits of this technology he has another idea. When it is time for a vote he votes to sell . Why? Lets say the price based on todays PPS is around $5 better then a 100% premium. He makes $2 per share on the sale, not bad. It gets better he has all the signed distribution agreements with Cytori which would still be in place with the company that was to steal CYTORI at $5. So he has his cake and eats it too.
    $2 a share in is pocket and still has his deal in place for down the road when LOREM actually starts generating some revenue. I have been down this road before. Within the next 90 days we should know weather or not we receive $56 million milestone payment. If we don't Cytori is screwed and surely would be in desperate need of cash which would make a sale of the company easy to comprehend. If they get it things are better for awhile and we should see a pop in PPS . Precise data positive which would lead one to believe that Athena would be as well but you would never know from yesterdays performance and volume was twice the norm. Perhaps accumulation of share on the cheap by CYTORI buyer . Why not buy for under $2.50 as much as you can and then pay a premium on the balance. Mangement get s golden parachute and shareholders get a golden shower. Think about it.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 9:43 AM Flag

    your right you have nobody to blame but yourself just like the rest of us suckers.

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 16, 2014 9:41 AM Flag

    you bring up a bad subject. this was just another area that cytori had told shareholders would improve the bottom line. the revenues generated in europe alone were to get to Cytori to break even. this was some 3 years ago. there is still no reimbursemnt in europe or anywhere else in the world for that matter and Cytori has pretty much just focused on BARDA & Atehna. Just another broken promise by Chris Calhoun, but hey he is gone now so the slate is clean and all the mis-steps, mis staement etc should be left in the past. It was Chris's fault and now we are expected to believ that all is well. I was somewwhat cynical in my recap but all the info you could want on cytori and breast reconstruction is easily found. you may even want to go back and listen to some of the calls from around 2010 which is the last time anything was adressed.

  • Reply to

    My Thoughts

    by rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 12:11 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 1:43 PM Flag

    If sale occurs yes you can participate and profit by purchasing shares of the company that would buy Cytori. My guess would be if my scenario is correct that this will be a 100% cash deal.

  • Reply to

    My Thoughts

    by rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 12:11 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 1:15 PM Flag

    Beurs. There is no reason for it to be above $5. Who ever is going to buy this may even be purchasing shares quietly on the open market and will not need to declare until they have accumulated enough shares. KT LIM will be very happy as he purchase at $3 so $2 is quite a tidy sum. I am convinced this is why CC retired (asked to step down by BOD) As mangement has milked this company for huge salaries and options that have not been earned, this golden parachute deal will be the ultimate #$%$ to us loyal shareholders. Nobody is goin to pay over a 100% premium. This sucks. I will be incontact with firm that handled Medarex class action and it will be interesting to see what comes out when deppositions are taken. Of course my scenario needs to be accurate for that to happen. Personally rather then file class action which you then give up your right to sue individuals,
    if it comes down to this course of action, large shareholders will not participate in class action but will file on there own. Again, I hope I am wrong but do not believ that I am , the signs are pointing to this and now I understand even more why KT LIM agreed to the deal as he is a major shareholder and will vote to orchestrate this sale. It is all becoming very clear. Do not trust this management team has our best interest at heart. The technology will work we just won't benefit .

  • rothco619 by rothco619 Apr 15, 2014 12:11 PM Flag

    Cytori credibility so bad that market does not respond to what appeared to be positive news. Overall market just makes it worse. I believe that CC is currently working ona deal but it is to sell the company. Based on PPS I would guess announcement will come in the near term, before any Barda announcement and at a price around $5. Management will make a sweet deal for itself, and the purchaser will ultinmately be the beneficiary of some 15 years and $200,000 million of research. Us stuckholders at $5 price will cut our losses but few will se profits. those willing to purchase at these depressed prices will make out. personally I am not willing to comit additional $'s nor do I have the balls to take the risk. Those buying here will double there money and guess who they will be?. The shorts that have killed this will benefit with a 100% ROI. Many will scream for class action suits to be filed but that will do no good. the layers will make out but judge will find no rules were broken. I do not want to be right on this but my gut tells me I am, just as it has on evrything that has transpired or not transpired over the last for years that I have owned this POS. Mark my words ,the bright side you cut your losses.

  • Reply to

    is kt gone?

    by glaschutte Apr 10, 2014 12:37 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 10, 2014 3:38 PM Flag

    Glas if your posts could be taken seriously perhaps. But as you comment on everything 20 times a day with ridiculous one liners, it becomes like the boy who cried wolf. We have many things to wory about and is KT Lim gone is not one of them. I apologize that i have lost my sense of humor, especially because the way this company has been run is a joke,but being down multiple 6 fihyres on this POS is no laughing matter and it's not getting better and yes i know the market is gettin hammered today. It's not about just today or yesterday or the week before that. UGGGHHHH!!!

  • Reply to

    is kt gone?

    by glaschutte Apr 10, 2014 12:37 PM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 10, 2014 1:51 PM Flag

    yes he is gone. he delivered millions of dollars to Cytori and changed his mind and decided to go home. seriously ?

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 10, 2014 10:32 AM Flag

    CYTX in desperate need of top notch PR firm and this is just another prime example. get rid of the VP's and spend the money on bolstering the image of the company and getting the story of Cytori out there. Too many have made a substantial living for many years without delivering RESULTS. Bottom line that is what it is all about. many companies have potential in the space. there is no denying that stem cells will be important in treating many diseases, injuries etc in the future, The big question is will CYTORI be around to participate or will the technology be gobbled up at a fire sale price to be monitized by another company whose shareholders will benefit. Today we would be lucky to fetch $5 which is a 100% premium over the pps, That is not what I risked my money on. Theory is the greater the risk the higher the return on investment. That is not happening here by any stretch of the imagination. Thumb me down all you want but it is what it is. Tired of the fairy tale.

  • Reply to

    Doctor Of Value

    by terrytwirl Apr 9, 2014 10:42 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2014 2:53 PM Flag

    can i ask why you are cut and pasting my posts

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2014 2:47 PM Flag

    Chuckles has a new ID

  • rothco619 rothco619 Apr 9, 2014 12:37 PM Flag

    not a word on the Cytori website on new patent . they did finally take cc photo down as ceo but no credit to hendrick listing him still as President.

  • Reply to

    By the way, what about Clyde Shores?

    by slavonskybrod Apr 8, 2014 8:22 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 8, 2014 12:37 PM Flag

    Cytori should take the money they pay Shores and spend it on a top notch PR firm focused on restoring a positive image. That surely would be more effective use of limited funds that would pay obvious dividends.

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    Getting rid of Calhoun

    by terrytwirl Apr 7, 2014 10:21 AM
    rothco619 rothco619 Apr 7, 2014 3:08 PM Flag

    Street we have the same catalysts as before and the same leadership regime as before, just a new face . Greater change is needed ,on that I think we all agree,it's all about turning the possible catalysts into actual verifiable events. Not telling you anything you don't already know. Lewis has 5 million shares in the game so he best but a good spin on it. Hope he is right on the money.

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