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  • WOW! 2 shares. You made a killing in one day and paid off 0.98 cents off $1 commision.

  • As new U.S. home sales rise to new highs, home prices are sharply declining. CNBC's Diana Olick discusses how this is impacting the overall housing market

  • China's property market looks to be on shaky ground with home sales flagging and prices declining, but Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS - News) isn't fretting about a sharp downturn in the sector.
    "Our bottom line is that the Chinese housing market has some clear signs of 'froth'," Andrew Tilton and Hui Shan, economists at the bank, wrote in note. "But with several sources of pent-up demand, policymakers have a broad array of tools to deploy (and have even started to deploy some) to help support the housing market," they said.

    The bubble in the housing market has been generated more from the supply side - overbuilding by developers- rather than the demand side whereby households leverage up to purchase beyond their means, Tilton and Shan said.

  • rvga128 by rvga128 Oct 24, 2014 2:37 PM Flag

    Accumulated 3300 @ $4.57 a share. No gunpowder left.

  • Reply to

    Someone is buying....

    by flying_trader Oct 23, 2014 2:15 PM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 24, 2014 12:45 PM Flag

    So who ever is selling at these levels needs to re-evaluate and hold on to their shares.

  • Reply to

    Since I'm here and feel like discussing

    by brianchesnutt Oct 20, 2014 12:54 PM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 2:36 PM Flag

    Decoy was asking about China and this was about China. And you need to grasp the whole thing before jumpin in. But knowing you that is the only thing you are good at.

  • Reply to

    Since I'm here and feel like discussing

    by brianchesnutt Oct 20, 2014 12:54 PM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 12:18 PM Flag

    38 Trillion US $ From Frost and Sullivan:
    Urbanisation will bring about spatial changes to the country, resulting in the emergence of 13 Mega-cities, 4 Mega-regions, and 6 Mega-corridors in 2025. The Mega Cities will grow to become the major hubs for commercial and business activity, contributing nearly US$6.24 trillion to China's GDP in 2025.

    "By 2025, an estimated 921 million people or 65.4 per cent of China's population, will live in cities, which is about 2.6 times of the United States' total population", says Archana Amarnath, Programme Manager, Visionary Innovation Research Group, Frost & Sullivan.

    She also added that the growth in Chinese mega cities will supplement Asia's growing role as the world's financial centre. In fact, by 2020, Hong Kong and Shanghai are expected to occupy two places in top five global financial centres.

    In addition to urbanisation, the demographic composition of China will also emerge as a key determinant of the country's growth over the next decade. China will have the largest working age populations of the world. The younger demographic, or Gen Y (15-34 years old), will account for 14.6 per cent (335 million) of China's total population in 2025 adding to the social prowess of entire Asia. China and India combined will have about 37 per cent of the total Gen Y population in 2025.

    China's potential workforce will be one of the biggest with 922 million individuals in the working age (15-64 years) category in 2025, which is roughly 22 percent of the potential global workforce (total number of people in the working age category).

    Augmenting the growth in innovative business models and unique business solutions is the widespread growth in connectivity and digital infrastructure within the country. An ambitious space exploration plan and investment in broadband infrastructure and mobile connectivity will convert China into one of most connected economies in the world. "A connected China will also see about 7 billion connected devices by 2025 ranging from mobile phones and gaming consoles to cars and televisions," predicts Archana Amarnath. Individuals will be highly connected through mobile technology and social media. China is expected to have 1.7 billion mobile phone subscribers in 2025, with at least 70 per cent to adapt 3G or later services. Social networking users will more than double to reach 791.7 million in China by 2025 from 318.8 million in 2011.

    In a bid to support this growth momentum, the Chinese government has announced to invest US$2.73 trillion on fixed assets of infrastructure such as power supply, railway, roads, urban public transport, water transport, water conservation, aviation and telecommunications between 2011 and 2015.

    With infrastructure support and a favourable corporate environment, industries such as Logistics and Retail will flourish over the next decade. China's logistics industry is expected to become the world's largest in 2016, and is expected to hit US$1 trillion revenue mark by 2020. Retail sales, on the other hand, will hit US$15.8 trillion in 2025, overtaking Japan to be the second largest retail market in the world by 2015.

    With so many growth opportunities, China is undoubtedly the most crucial economic centre of the east. In fact, China's growth is the main catalyst in the rise of Asia. However, understanding the composition and major trends of a country like China is more difficult than most because of its sheer size and complexity. Frost & Sullivan aims to bridge the gaps in understanding by offering an insight into the Mega Trends that shape China. Mega Trends, which are characteristically futuristic, macro and comprehensive, offers an exhaustive insight into the key drivers shaping China and provides a visionary outline of the country's future

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    GS on Chinese Housing market.

    by rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 7:55 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 8:01 AM Flag

    Alvin Wong, China property analyst at Barclays (London Stock Exchange: BARC-GB), expects the government's recently announced property measures will begin to boost sales as soon as the fourth quarter.

    "With the effect of the more preferential mortgage environment to kick in, including a lower down payment ratio for upgrade demand, the cheaper lending rate for first mortgages as well as more supportive housing provident fund loan policies, we believe this should bode well for the continued improvement in the sales momentum in the fourth quarter," he wrote in a note.

    Different from the historical pattern of September sales generally being better than October sales - sales for the first three weeks of this October - across 30 major cities tracked by the bank - have exceeded the level recorded in the same period of September, he said.

    With a better October likely, this should translate into the first year-on year increase in national property sales in 2014, he noted.

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    GS on Chinese Housing market.

    by rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 7:55 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 8:00 AM Flag

    Growth in real estate investment slowed to 12.5 percent in the first nine months of 2014, from 13.2 percent in the first eight months, while property sales and new construction tumbled, helping to drag broader economic growth to a near six-year low in the third quarter.

    "We expect the contribution of housing activity to real GDP growth to wane significantly by 2015, although it is still a net positive," Tilton and Shan said.

    "Spillovers to the financial system will not have large negative consequences, because of low household leverage, the lack of complex financial products that can amplify systemic risk, and policymakers' demonstrated ability and willingness to limit the degree of credit stress on the system and to support key institutions," they said.

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    GS on Chinese Housing market.

    by rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 7:55 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 7:59 AM Flag

    "The mortgage debt-to-GDP ratio is still low in China, so easing mortgage credit would be highly likely to increase sales, prices and construction activity, with minimal incremental financial stability risk," it said.


    Alternatively, the government could provide liquidity to distressed developers or even purchasing inventory directly in order to prevent them from cutting price aggressively to liquidity inventories.

    However, the bank acknowledges that managing the property slowdown won't be an easy task.

    "Policy must be restrictive enough to rein in shadow banking activity and limit future excesses in construction. But it must be loose enough to support demand and avoid a sharp credit crunch that could lead to liquidation of housing inventory and large price declines," Tilton and Shan said.

    "Compared with the previous two housing slowdowns in 2008-09 and 2011-12, debt is higher and growth is slower, so policymakers face more constraints today in designing and implementing effective policy changes to steer the housing market away from an eventual hard landing," they added.

    The housing sector - which is linked to some 40 sectors in the country from cement to furniture - is regarded as the weakest link in the world's second-largest economy.

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    GS on Chinese Housing market.

    by rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 7:55 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 23, 2014 7:58 AM Flag

    This means there is still scope to stimulate demand should policymakers desire to do so, they said, noting that rapidly-rising incomes and continued urbanization ensure a large pool of potential buyers in the country.

    "Chinese policymakers are attentive to the risks and can avail themselves of a particularly broad array of tools to smooth the adjustment path and limit risks," they said.

    In late-September, policymakers took bold steps to prop up the housing market, allowing a broader range of home buyers access to lower down payments and mortgage rates.
    There's further scope to ease mortgage lending conditions, the bank said.

  • China's property market looks to be on shaky ground with home sales flagging and prices declining, but Goldman Sachs (NYSE:GS - News) isn't fretting about a sharp downturn in the sector.
    "Our bottom line is that the Chinese housing market has some clear signs of 'froth'," Andrew Tilton and Hui Shan, economists at the bank, wrote in note. "But with several sources of pent-up demand, policymakers have a broad array of tools to deploy (and have even started to deploy some) to help support the housing market," they said.

    The bubble in the housing market has been generated more from the supply side - overbuilding by developers- rather than the demand side whereby households leverage up to purchase beyond their means, Tilton and Shan said.

  • Reply to

    THat was a heavy, violent shake up...

    by altaga47 Oct 21, 2014 11:48 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 21, 2014 11:57 AM Flag

    Dude- if not today by the end of the week it is going up.

  • Reply to

    THat was a heavy, violent shake up...

    by altaga47 Oct 21, 2014 11:48 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 21, 2014 11:51 AM Flag

    That way it is bouncing back is good too!

  • Reply to

    THat was a heavy, violent shake up...

    by altaga47 Oct 21, 2014 11:48 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 21, 2014 11:49 AM Flag

    That is good! All the weak hands and traders will leave.

  • Reply to

    Who is IN and who is out?

    by rvga128 Oct 21, 2014 9:31 AM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 21, 2014 9:50 AM Flag

    Common guys! Let us be transparent for a change.

  • My average cost $8.45 per share! I have 7680 shares.

  • Reply to

    Since I'm here and feel like discussing

    by brianchesnutt Oct 20, 2014 12:54 PM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 20, 2014 3:26 PM Flag

    When growth slows to 3.9% it will a super power and PE of Chinese companies will be upwards of 12. And you will never get XIN at a PE of less then 3

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    They are trying to reel in the newbies and then

    by odwallafan Oct 20, 2014 12:04 PM
    rvga128 rvga128 Oct 20, 2014 12:45 PM Flag

    odwallafan • Oct 17, 2014 10:29 AM Flag

    I am out -- sold 5k shares at 8.28 that I bought at 7.50 earlier this week.
    .Will re-enter when it dips below 8 next week
    ----------------------------------------------------------
    WOW!

  • Holding to my 7680 shares for a ride up.

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